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Is It me or are trucks expensive nowadays? Sure you can go with the basic model, but you want a V8 and a few god features with new technology. Your looking at $43,000 and that's starting? WTF!! Is it just me?


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That's because people expect too much out of trucks nowadays. Rather that just accepting that you're buying a lumbering brute that will haul anything you can think of, they also think it needs almost 400hp for...I'm not sure...drag racing? There should be no reason to require that type of high-rev output from a truck engine; but since the jackasses that buy them for work also insist on using them as their personal transport, they also have to be able to keep up in a race with a ****** driving a Mustang. There is zero reason to spend a shit-ton for something like that, yet people still do it. Kind of like there really isn't any need to buy V-8s anymore -- modern 6s are putting out more torque and HP than virtually any stock 8 was just a decade or so ago, but the tiny penis requires those extra cylinders for the purpose of lengthening...
 

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That's because people expect too much out of trucks nowadays. Rather that just accepting that you're buying a lumbering brute that will haul anything you can think of, they also think it needs almost 400hp for...I'm not sure...drag racing? There should be no reason to require that type of high-rev output from a truck engine; but since the jackasses that buy them for work also insist on using them as their personal transport, they also have to be able to keep up in a race with a ****** driving a Mustang. There is zero reason to spend a shit-ton for something like that, yet people still do it. Kind of like there really isn't any need to buy V-8s anymore -- modern 6s are putting out more torque and HP than virtually any stock 8 was just a decade or so ago, but the tiny penis requires those extra cylinders for the purpose of lengthening...

I'm a sucker for V8/V10 american muscle cars. *shrug*

I don't see the practicality of them in trucks though. I would prefer a V6 turboed in a truck.
 

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Because trucks have followed inflation even though income hasn't... Simple explanation given to me by a car/truck salesman.

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wells, if it makes you feel any better.. add 100k to that hurr..

2017 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD LTZ be going for about $140,000 in Aus..

40k will get you a late 90s, early to mid 00.... hell just skimming the used ads, there be a 1978 for 19.5k and a 1980 for 28K.

If youre looking for a work truck, have you though about getting a used v8? Im not sure how the market is in the USA now, but i remember when i left around 09-10... lots of used mid 00's v8 were fairly cheap.... i think gas prices were going up a lot at the time.

my personal fav for light shat still be those used late 90s early 00' s-10s for 2k.... cheap to buy, cheap to fuel, cheap to fix.
 

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I'm a sucker for V8/V10 american muscle cars. *shrug*

That's fine because that's the sole purpose of those types of vehicles; a truck with huge HP makes zero sense. Have to maintain that top-end, high-speed, acceleration for...what, exactly?
 

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I'm a sucker for V8/V10 american muscle cars. *shrug*

I don't see the practicality of them in trucks though. I would prefer a V6 turboed in a truck.
Ford makes an Ecoboost v6 twin turbo for the F-150 series that has more torque and horsepower than anything with a V-8 in the same line.

Its damn near unbreakable too.

Mike Rowe narrates this documentary about it and it's pretty mind blowing the type of torture it can withstand.


[video=youtube_share;8tEqwXrqzH4]https://youtu.be/8tEqwXrqzH4[/video]
 

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Vehicles in general are stupid high.
It's rediculous really...
 

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Don't buy brand new. Never understood why people do that. The thing depreciates almost 50% the first time to turn the key. Go with a 2014/2015 with around 40,000 miles on it and you can get one for about $28,000 depending on the trim package, etc.

Here's a good article for you though. Used Vehicle prices should be going down.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-go...the-bad-news-your-car-is-depreciating-faster/
 

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Don't buy brand new. Never understood why people do that. The thing depreciates almost 50% the first time to turn the key. Go with a 2014/2015 with around 40,000 miles on it and you can get one for about $28,000 depending on the trim package, etc.

Here's a good article for you though. Used Vehicle prices should be going down.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-go...the-bad-news-your-car-is-depreciating-faster/

People always want things that are new and shiny.

Side note, it's like the people that buy flat bills and don't remove the fucking stickers, lmao.
 

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My wife drove her Tahoe from 04-16. 12 years. So I figured I would buy her what ever she wanted this time around. She ended up selecting an Orange, Ram 1500 4x4 crew cab with a front bench. My job was to find this truck (not easy) and negotiate the price. Dont look at MSRP, I got about $8k off of that.

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My wife drove her Tahoe from 04-16. 12 years. So I figured I would buy her what ever she wanted this time around. She ended up selecting an Orange, Ram 1500 4x4 crew cab with a front bench. My job was to find this truck (not easy) and negotiate the price. Dont look at MSRP, I got about $8k off of that.

For the record I love the Hemi engine!

If you're looking for a brand new vehicle, I'd recommend waiting until November/December. Dealers are put under alot of pressure to move 'old' inventory to make room for newer models so they will start slashing prices to get ride of the models that are a year old.
 

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If you're looking for a brand new vehicle, I'd recommend waiting until November/December. Dealers are put under alot of pressure to move 'old' inventory to make room for newer models so they will start slashing prices to get ride of the models that are a year old.

The month is irrelevant. Many automakers release new models for next year in the middle of the previous year, hell, Subaru releases thiers in late spring /early summer . Regardless of the month though, you are correct… Dealers hate having last year's models around when the new models are already on our the lot. The last few days of the month are also the a great time to buy because of monthly sales quotas.
 

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If you're looking for a brand new vehicle, I'd recommend waiting until November/December. Dealers are put under alot of pressure to move 'old' inventory to make room for newer models so they will start slashing prices to get ride of the models that are a year old.

end of year deals arent bad if you can find demos for sale... most demos arent bad... may have a few hundred to a few k on it, but still carry the new car warranty. went and looked at some camry demos last year, most off them were just used by toyota employees in aus..company cars still a big thang in oz.... im not sure any of those were public demonstrator... so what if they were.. all had dat new car warranty.. anyway.. prices were 6-12k off.

we ended up 2k apart in negotiations.. i wanted another k on the wifes kia (still under warranty itselfs) and 1 mo k off the camry with already rock bottom numbers.. they wouldnt budge.. so we walked... big high volume dealer.. they werent desperate and didnt bite.. but me low ball was worth the effort... camry be a solid buy.. anyway.. may try again this yr... eofy shat be around june hurr..
 

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Ford makes an Ecoboost v6 twin turbo for the F-150 series that has more torque and horsepower than anything with a V-8 in the same line.

Its damn near unbreakable too.

Mike Rowe narrates this documentary about it and it's pretty mind blowing the type of torture it can withstand.


[video=youtube_share;8tEqwXrqzH4]https://youtu.be/8tEqwXrqzH4[/video]

I am more than familiar with that engine setup. Its actually exactly what I was referring to when I said a turboed V6. Its amazing.
 

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If you have any ecoboost (ford turbo engines in Mercurys, Lincolns and Ford from the last 7 years), install an oil catch can. Heck, if you have any GDI vehicle, strongly consider an oil catch can.

It's not "unbreakable" without one. I don't care what Mike Rowe says, returned oil doesn't get burned through the system and builds up. Unless you plan on cleaning above the head every 120k miles manually, it's going to gum up like crazy. Oil catch cans do just that, catch this unburnt oil(known as oil carry over or blow-by) so it's not a problem. Pays for itself tenfold within the life of the vehicle. Seafoaming(aka: kerosene-oil blend) *might* clean some of it if you treat at the intake and not gas tank, no fuel injector cleaners (even if it has 100% PEA) work, BG44K is pretty volatile and works to clean at the expense of possibly weakening other parts down the line, no spraying special sauce into the chamber with some long straw, only manually removing the upper half (both sides of a v6) and basically doing a top half rebuild will clean it safely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6h_FOzFMcs
He speaks the truth, and IIRC, moved to Ottawa IL to open his own shop in the last year or so.
 

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Don't buy brand new. Never understood why people do that. The thing depreciates almost 50% the first time to turn the key. Go with a 2014/2015 with around 40,000 miles on it and you can get one for about $28,000 depending on the trim package, etc.

Here's a good article for you though. Used Vehicle prices should be going down.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-go...the-bad-news-your-car-is-depreciating-faster/

I've been looking at buying a truck and the new ones are in the 50-60K range(and go higher). I really liked the dodge with the ecodiesel but after some research that motor has had a ton of problems. The ecoboost Ford is beautiful and love the motor. The problem here in California is with the rising prices of new trucks people are asking ridiculous prices for their used trucks.
 

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I was thinking either keep my Silverado 1500 and sell my vet to get a new one or sell my 1500 and get a new Denali 2500. Idk about paying 65000 for a pick up truck though
 

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I've been looking at buying a truck and the new ones are in the 50-60K range(and go higher). I really liked the dodge with the ecodiesel but after some research that motor has had a ton of problems. The ecoboost Ford is beautiful and love the motor. The problem here in California is with the rising prices of new trucks people are asking ridiculous prices for their used trucks.

I've been looking at some used ones as well. I'm having a hard time justifying spending 30k lol. Just not sure it's necessary. I've always been a GM guy myself, but my wife bought a Jeep Cherokee and I really like it actually. I was thinking about looking at some Wrangler Unlimited's. Anybody have any opinions on them?
 

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