Unsurprising news is unsurprising: Cubs tell teams Castro is unavailable

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The Cubs have informed other clubs Starlin Castro is not available in trade, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. Heyman lists the Mets and Yankees (prior to obtaining Didi Gregorius) as teams who have been told the Cubs want to hang onto the 24-year-old All-Star shortstop. Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times tweets the Cubs have also assured Castro he will not be traded this offseason.

With a thin shortstop market and the Cubs having prospects Javier Baez and Addison Russell in the wings, Castro was a popular name for teams in need at the position. The Yankees were able to fill their shortstop vacancy by acquiring Gregorius earlier this week, but the Mets are still in the hunt for an upgrade over Wilmer Flores. Heyman, in a separate report, writes Jimmy Rollins still has not changed his stance on waiving his no-trade clause.

Not sure this is news but whatever.
 

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Well not to pat myself on the back, but this isn't news to me.
 

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Yeah it shouldn't be news to anyone. A year from now you never know but based on what they're trying to do trading him would be nonsensicle .
 

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Yeah it shouldn't be news to anyone. A year from now you never know but based on what they're trying to do trading him would be nonsensicle .

And the rule of thumb is if you are going to sell......sell high. Not sure how much higher his ceiling is going to get?

Funny that the article states that they told him they wouldn't trade him this off-season. Wonder if that includes the trade deadline next year if the Cubs are not in the hunt? :shrug:
 

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Mistake.......trade him now.

For what reason? I just read Jesse Rogers' arguments and I don't buy those. I do think you might take another look after Russell comes up but Castro is going to be valuable for some time. He's a three time All Star, 24 years old under cost control and looks to be consistent 3 WAR for some time. What's the rush? Wait for the right offer and you might get a TOR type pitcher.
 

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Jesse Rogers throws out names he could be traded for like Castro would be the only significant player necessary to pull the trade off. No, no, no, no, no.
 

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Jesse Rogers argument is horrible. He may have peaked in power? Its like this, Castro isnt the new kid on the block. People like new shiny things. So, before anyone has proven anything. People want to replace the "old" with the "new" even though the "new" is in no way guaranteed. Castro showed some serious strides towards the last month and a half of the season. The kind of strides that can make him a superstar at SS. To trade him now would be a huge mistake. They are always going to be those people that will point back to his mental lapses, but wont point to how much he cut them down last year. He has had 5 coaches in 6 years. He was brought up to early. He is making his strides now still right under his prime. I think I will hang on to him.
 

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Jesse Rogers argument is horrible. He may have peaked in power? Its like this, Castro isnt the new kid on the block. People like new shiny things. So, before anyone has proven anything. People want to replace the "old" with the "new" even though the "new" is in no way guaranteed. Castro showed some serious strides towards the last month and a half of the season. The kind of strides that can make him a superstar at SS. To trade him now would be a huge mistake. They are always going to be those people that will point back to his mental lapses, but wont point to how much he cut them down last year. He has had 5 coaches in 6 years. He was brought up to early. He is making his strides now still right under his prime. I think I will hang on to him.

Exactly. People act like if they don't trade him now all they'll get is a bag of balls. This kid right now today is worth a TOR prospect already in the show plus a player. Known commodity, cost control and a SS that will deliver somewhere in the area of a 3 WAR every year. He's not getting less valuable he's getting more valuable. Unless someone offers a crazy package for him he stays put at least until we know what Russell, Baez and Bryant are.
 

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So the Cubs want to keep a 25 YO, 3x All-Star, signed to a team friendly contract, who knew?
 

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if he was traded it would have been stupid. your 2 closest players to sure things are rizzo and castro. we all know what castro is and may get better. trading him and inserting an unknown is just stupid.


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For what reason? I just read Jesse Rogers' arguments and I don't buy those. I do think you might take another look after Russell comes up but Castro is going to be valuable for some time. He's a three time All Star, 24 years old under cost control and looks to be consistent 3 WAR for some time. What's the rush? Wait for the right offer and you might get a TOR type pitcher.

That's what I was implying. The Cubs have NO ONE who is untradeable. Not saying you, but the Cubs will listen to all offers, and if you don't think that the Cubs would trade Castro if the right package or person came along, you are sadly mistaken.

How long has it been since the ties to Castro were for his lack of hustle and short attention span? What, one year removed?

The Cubs FO has been very transparent at looking way into the future and making moves that best fit the teams needs. You don't discount anyone from that list of names that could be traded.
 

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That's what I was implying. The Cubs have NO ONE who is untradeable. Not saying you, but the Cubs will listen to all offers, and if you don't think that the Cubs would trade Castro if the right package or person came along, you are sadly mistaken.

How long has it been since the ties to Castro were for his lack of hustle and short attention span? What, one year removed?

The Cubs FO has been very transparent at looking way into the future and making moves that best fit the teams needs. You don't discount anyone from that list of names that could be traded.

I would say Rizzo is untradeable but your point is well taken. When they say they're not listening in Castro they're saying "make us an over the top offer and we'll listen" which is where the conversation on him should've right now. He has tremendous trade value but going into 2015 also has great value to the team as a veteran anchor in an unstable line up.
 

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I would say Rizzo is untradeable but your point is well taken. When they say they're not listening in Castro they're saying "make us an over the top offer and we'll listen" which is where the conversation on him should've right now. He has tremendous trade value but going into 2015 also has great value to the team as a veteran anchor in an unstable line up.

Agreed. And the Cubs have traded away assets to get what they needed in the farm, and I am sure they will think along the same lines to get what they need at the major league level.

When I think of who the Cubs would trade to get a TOR pitcher, I immediately think Castro before emptying a lot of the farm. Just me though.

I think I'd be more disappointed if Soler has a good year and they trade him with as much upside as he has versus someone like Castro, and as it stands right now, Baez and Alcantara have to greatly improve their stock to change a lot of this.
 

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I'd rate Soler much higher on the untradeable list then Castro and that is without the SS depth that the Cubs have.
 

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I'd rate Soler much higher on the untradeable list then Castro and that is without the SS depth that the Cubs have.

SS is by far the weaker position. Castro has more value.
 

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