Unsurprising news is unsurprising: Cubs tell teams Castro is unavailable

[brett05]

SS is by far the weaker position. Castro has more value.

Did you read the post I put out from Grantland? Appears the experts say no.

And honestly I understand. Castro isn;t going to get much better than what he is now. Soler a bigger risk but a massive upside on the reward.

 

[SilenceS]

Did you read the post I put out from Grantland? Appears the experts say no.

And honestly I understand. Castro isn;t going to get much better than what he is now. Soler a bigger risk but a massive upside on the reward.

Experts? Its an article from a reputable place thats still opinion. Here is an article on Justin Upton posted today about his trade value.

SAN DIEGO -- The Braves believe they should get more for Justin Upton than they got from the Cardinals for Jason Heyward.

Rival executives agree with that. Upton, due to better power and overall offense, is worth more than Heyward.

But here's the problem: Executives also believe the Braves got too much for Heyward, a defensive specialist whose offensive numbers are declining a bit. They see young pitcher Shelby Miller as an overpay, so no one wants to do better than that yet.

The Mariners declined to include Taijuan Walker (who interestingly was offered two years ago for Upton), and the Orioles won't give up Kevin Gausman.

So the Braves will continue to see what's out there.

Upton, with 29 home runs and an impressive 102 RBI in a bad Braves offense, had a worthy season. He also has one year at a reasonable $14.5 million, and a very good clubhouse rep. That he can't field with Heyward shouldn't mitigate the much better offensive productivity.

The Royals, Rangers, Indians and Padres were identified by Joel Sherman of the New York Post as the most interested at this point. The Giants and Orioles have been mentioned before but they may be running behind at the moment.

In any case, there's still work to do.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer...-shelby-miller-for-upton-so-no-walker-gausman

I love Jorge Soler. I backed him when everyone jumped off the bandwagon last year. I expect big things out of him, but SS is so weak that Castro would be highly sought after. Also, you keep saying Castro isnt going to get much better even though he got better last year. He is 25 at the start of next season. 25! Lets see what he continues to do. Fun fact: Castro is only 1 year and a 11 months older then Soler.

 

[brett05]

Soler is more valuable. Castro is one of the best at a weak position but still at best average when looking at the different makers at the position historically. You are incapable of being honest with Castro. Admit it and drop it would be my advice.

 

[SilenceS]

Soler is more valuable. Castro is one of the best at a weak position but still at best average when looking at the different makers at the position historically. You are incapable of being honest with Castro. Admit it and drop it would be my advice.

Im incapable. Coming from the guy that said all mlb teams would take Alexi over Castro. Hahaha I am incapable of listening to non sense. So, you say all the time that being a prospect means nothing. Now, you want to say Soler value is more then Castro without one full season under his belt because of his potential. This is extremely hypocritical of your past post. I posted an article showing how weak the market was for Justin Upton. A guy who has a stat line that we hope Jorge Soler can accomplish and he only cost 14.5 million. Jorge Soler has risk to him as well. So, we differ on opinion and thats fine but it has nothing to do with me being honest. It has everything to do with the agenda of players you like and we all know you have never said a good word about Castro.

 

[DewsSox79]

Im incapable. Coming from the guy that said all mlb teams would take Alexi over Castro. Hahaha I am incapable of listening to non sense. So, you say all the time that being a prospect means nothing. Now, you want to say Soler value is more then Castro without one full season under his belt because of his potential. This is extremely hypocritical of your past post. I posted an article showing how weak the market was for Justin Upton. A guy who has a stat line that we hope Jorge Soler can accomplish and he only cost 14.5 million. Jorge Soler has risk to him as well. So, we differ on opinion and thats fine but it has nothing to do with me being honest. It has everything to do with the agenda of players you like and we all know you have never said a good word about Castro.

depends on needs i suppose. while castro last year go on base at a better clip ramirez is by far a better defender hence the 1 game difference in WAR with ramirez at 3 and castro at 2. can castro get better? sure. do we know what ramirez is? yes! It would be interesting to see what the numbers would look like last year flip flopping teams having castro have to face kluber,verlander,scherzer and all the AL dominant pitchers.


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[SilenceS]

depends on needs i suppose. while castro last year go on base at a better clip ramirez is by far a better defender hence the 1 game difference in WAR with ramirez at 3 and castro at 2. can castro get better? sure. do we know what ramirez is? yes! It would be interesting to see what the numbers would look like last year flip flopping teams having castro have to face kluber,verlander,scherzer and all the AL dominant pitchers.


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Castro wouldnt have to bat 4th with no protection either.

 

[JosMin]

I'm sure the Cubs have kicked around the prospect of trying to use Castro another a package of prospects to land an ace and never got anywhere. I still think both the Phillies and Nationals make a lot of sense as trade partenters (Cole Hamels and Jordan Zimmerman, repsectively), but the Cubs are wise to hold onto their minor league position player depth until they have a more defined idea with what some of their most recent additions will give them (Baez, Alcantara, Soler, etc.)

 

[Papa Wheelie]

"Cubs announce that Rick Renteria will be back next season" ........ :shrug:

 

[brett05]

Im incapable. Coming from the guy that said all mlb teams would take Alexi over Castro. Hahaha I am incapable of listening to non sense. So, you say all the time that being a prospect means nothing. Now, you want to say Soler value is more then Castro without one full season under his belt because of his potential. This is extremely hypocritical of your past post. I posted an article showing how weak the market was for Justin Upton. A guy who has a stat line that we hope Jorge Soler can accomplish and he only cost 14.5 million. Jorge Soler has risk to him as well. So, we differ on opinion and thats fine but it has nothing to do with me being honest. It has everything to do with the agenda of players you like and we all know you have never said a good word about Castro.

100% not true. Even on this board. But suit yourself.

 

[dabears253313]

This is great news! A 24 (soon 25) year old-three time all star should be unavailable unless the other team offers A LOT.

Javier Baez and Addison Russell are not proven and only one of them has A LITTLE bit of MLB experience.

No need to trade Starlin Castro when you can play Javier Baez and second base and move Addison Russell to the outfield.