Video of last play of Lions game: Does Odunze score a TD if he keeps running?

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Yeah said this in another thread.

What was also interesting on that play is Odunze turning inside and then having to turn back outside caused him to slow down and straighten the route. If he turns outside from the start and stays in stride he probably catches that ball for a TD. If you watch the end zone angle of that play you will see clearly how Odunze turning inside first causes him to not be able to catch up to the ball.
 

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Id love to see Rome get 1K and Caleb his 4K.
 

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Looks like he is running. Looks more like he lost track of the ball/had a hard time adjusting his body to it. You can see him switch his shoulders.
I mean, it’s pretty obvious that’s what happened. Not sure why anyone would think something else. Good analysis. Simple and easy.
 

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He's got to recognize the coverage. Really the ball should have been more to the outside, and he should have been looking outside right out of his break. It was single high. The Lions weren't playing like it was the last play, they were playing for something short. The corner was wide open and Rome had the CB stacked easily.
 

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I posted on here after the game that if he kept running and tracked the ball that that would of been a game winning TD.
Who knows, he may have been tackled by the defender just short of the goal line. God wouldn't that have been awful to come up 1 yard short as time expires.
 

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He's got to recognize the coverage. Really the ball should have been more to the outside, and he should have been looking outside right out of his break. It was single high. The Lions weren't playing like it was the last play, they were playing for something short. The corner was wide open and Rome had the CB stacked easily.
Yes, but he's running a specific route, so the QB and him have to be on the same page with where he's expected to be. Not everything is an option route.
 

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Yes, but he's running a specific route, so the QB and him have to be on the same page with where he's expected to be. Not everything is an option route.
I would be shocked if the route called for him to turn inside towards the single high safety.

If it did then Williams changed to the wrong play and probably speaks to why the rookie QB shouldnt change the play to target the rookie WR as time just ticks away.
 
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What a sad state this ownership has put this fan base in. Almost every post is glad the game ended in a loss and someone got fired over it.

F-Ing McCaskeys!!!!
 

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Yes, but he's running a specific route, so the QB and him have to be on the same page with where he's expected to be. Not everything is an option route.
In the NFL routes like that one are dependent on coverage. Against single high deep routes always should go away from the middle. Williams knew that, Odunze didn't.
 

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There's a lot going on for that play. You have Williams having to change the route at the line because he realizes they are likely not going to get another play. I'm not sure what the route change for Odunze was, but it looks like the only potential option to go for the TD and appears to be an in-route that rolls into running up the seam. Williams sees single high safety and throws the ball to the open space to the outside which should be there for Odunze since he does beat his man and the safety is late to come over. Odunze appears to be looking for an inside seam route expecting he is going to have to try and make a catch while taking the hit but then realizes the throw has been made to the outside and then loses the momentum while changing body positions to adjust for the ball resulting in it being incomplete.

I'm also not completely sure that the corner, once he realized he was beat deep and Odunze had a step on this does not jump on him and slow him down a bit and impede his right arm from trying to make the catch. You're likely not going to get that call often as it changes the game outcome in a major way, but that contact along with him getting twisted up locating the ball resulted in the incomplete.
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There's a lot going on for that play. You have Williams having to change the route at the line because he realizes they are likely not going to get another play. I'm not sure what the route change for Odunze was, but it looks like the only potential option to go for the TD and appears to be an in-route that rolls into running up the seam. Williams sees single high safety and throws the ball to the open space to the outside which should be there for Odunze since he does beat his man and the safety is late to come over. Odunze appears to be looking for an inside seam route expecting he is going to have to try and make a catch while taking the hit but then realizes the throw has been made to the outside and then loses the momentum while changing body positions to adjust for the ball resulting in it being incomplete.

I'm also not completely sure that the corner, once he realized he was beat deep and Odunze had a step on this does not jump on him and slow him down a bit and impede his right arm from trying to make the catch. You're likely not going to get that call often as it changes the game outcome in a major way, but that contact along with him getting twisted up locating the ball resulted in the incomplete.
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Williams changed the play because he didnt realize we had an extra timeout. He actually had more than enough time to run the play called as it is his changing the play that delayed things further.
 

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