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Guy can't stand the poor Broncos being criticized. I still can't fathom them passing on Fields. All the other teams he mentions either have a young first round pick, a newly acquired reclamation project, or an established veteran. Philly with Hurts is a close second, but at least he is still a bit of an unknown. Lock is going into his 3rd season where his second, 1st as a full time starter, was a train wreck, landing him 32 in passer rating.


Denver Broncos are wrongfully singled out for passing on Justin Fields




by Sayre Bedinger 17 seconds ago Follow @sayrebedinger


Leading up to the 2021 NFL Draft, many people felt like the Denver Broncos would not be able to pass on Justin Fields if he actually fell to the 9th overall pick where George Paton was slated to make his first pick as general manager. Considering the importance of the quarterback position and the uncertainty for the Broncos at the position, I will admit that I was understanding and on board with the logic of taking Fields, a very talented prospect if he were available there.

If you are unsettled at the QB position and don’t love your in-house options, why would you not consider a player like Fields?

On the night of the 2021 NFL Draft, as Aaron Rodgers rumors began to completely take over everyone’s news feed, there were those who felt the Denver Broncos could not risk missing out on Fields and that they needed to trade whatever was necessary to move up to the fourth pick with the Atlanta Falcons to get him.

Only the Falcons weren’t trading out.

The top three picks in the draft were expected to be quarterbacks, and while everyone knew. that the top two picks would be Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson, nobody really knew what the San Francisco 49ers would do with the third overall pick. There were a ton of Mac Jones rumors leading up to the draft, but the 49ers ultimately went with North Dakota State’s Trey Lance.

After Lance went off the board, Denver Broncos fans were in an absolute frenzy over the idea of possibly landing Aaron Rodgers, the remaining potential of drafting Justin Fields, and the potential threat of the team actually taking Mac Jones with the 9th overall pick.

The frenzy reached a boiling point with the Broncos on the clock and Justin Fields somehow still on the board. No one had traded up ahead of the Broncos to get him. No one ahead of the Broncos took him for themselves.

For a player who was the QB2 behind Trevor Lawrence for many NFL Draft fans, pundits, and analysts in this draft class, it was clear that there was a major disconnect between what Draft Twitter and football talking heads thought about Justin Fields and what NFL teams actually thought of him.

NFL teams get personnel decisions wrong all the time, there’s no question about it. But how could so many QB-needy teams be so unanimous on this one player?

People who had already formed their own opinions about Fields as a player were dug into their analysis, and rightfully so. It’s fair to form an opinion based on what you see from a guy, what your gut says about him, and how he passes the eye test for you. Fields is an impressive prospect physically, his production at Ohio State was outstanding, and he is seemingly the ideal fit for what the NFL is trending towards in terms of being a quarterback that can beat you with his arms or legs.

The Denver Broncos turned in their pick, and at this point, because an Aaron Rodgers trade had not been consummated as many seemed to think it might, there was a moment of mass outrage and pure shock when the team turned in a card for Pat Surtain II.

Surtain is arguably the best defensive player in the entire 2021 class, there’s no question about it. He’s looked like an NFL player since his first year on campus with the Alabama Crimson Tide, and he’s played so consistently well over the last three seasons that he’d become almost boring to NFL Draft fans.

The Broncos’ free agency splurge on the secondary made the selection of Surtain a bit of a head-scratcher, but what drew complete outrage from so many fans who don’t see the upside in Drew Lock is the fact that the team passed on Fields.

Since the Broncos passed on Fields, they have been pretty heavily singled out for being the team that passed on Fields. Of course, being in the middle of Broncos Country, you hear plenty of that kind of thing, but to start seeing opinions pour in from national media with scathing reviews for the Surtain pick based on the passing of Fields is hypocritical at best, ignorant at worst.





This is merely the tip of the iceberg. The Broncos have rather consistently been the team getting the most heat for passing on Fields as though Fields has already proven himself to be an up-and-coming star or elite player at the position.

I liked Fields coming out of Ohio State over both Zach Wilson and Trey Lance, to be clear. The Denver Broncos obviously did not, but they weren’t alone.

There’s nothing wrong with being upset that the Denver Broncos passed on Fields if you were really high on him, but for the Broncos to keep getting singled out like they were alone in this is frustrating.

Beginning with the New York Jets and San Francisco 49ers at picks two and three overall, you hear very little criticism of those teams taking Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. Simply the act of taking a quarterback appears to have eliminated the possibility of those selections being looked down upon without the benefit of hindsight.

Should Fields end up being a star and either Wilson or Lance not live up to high expectations, I’m sure the Jets and 49ers will eventually hear it.

For now, however, everyone’s fine with their picks because they took quarterbacks. It’s the principle that matters there, apparently.

The Atlanta Falcons are the top team that deserves scrutiny for not taking Justin Fields, if that’s the game that’s being played. The Falcons hired a new head coach (Arthur Smith) and general manager (Terry Fontenot) and when a team hires a new head coach and GM, well you can almost bet the farm on a new quarterback following shortly thereafter.

The rookie coach/GM duo opted to stick with Matt Ryan, an aging veteran whose best days could very well be behind him. Not only did they stick with Ryan, but they traded his longtime top target Julio Jones in the months after the draft where they took tight end Kyle Pitts.

What are the Falcons doing? Are they rebuilding? They sent that signal when they traded Julio Jones, but by keeping Matt Ryan, they made it seem like they are still going to try to win now.

Taking Kyle Pitts was also a “win now” move, but it makes no sense to trade Jones if that’s what you’re trying to do.

Atlanta’s decision to keep Ryan, draft Pitts, and then trade Julio Jones all while passing on Justin Fields makes very little sense for a new regime that obviously didn’t think highly of Fields either.

The Miami Dolphins have Tua Tagovailoa, their top pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. Still, Tagovailoa wasn’t good enough for the Dolphins to really commit to him as a rookie and when he played, he struggled badly.

The Denver Broncos know as well as anyone, as Tagovailoa was benched in the Dolphins’ regular-season matchup in Denver.

There were plenty of talking heads who thought Miami could upgrade or make a change at the quarterback position, but they also passed on Fields to take Alabama wide receiver Jaylen Waddle.

The Dolphins are getting the benefit of the doubt despite many people having as low opinions of Tua Tagovailoa as they do Drew Lock at this point. Fields has been talked up as a prospect that could have been QB1 in many draft classes, and if that’s the case, why did the Dolphins not pull the same thing the Arizona Cardinals did in 2019 when they took Kyler Murray and traded Josh Rosen, their first-round pick the year prior?

The Philadelphia Eagles traded out of the top 10 picks completely well before the 2021 NFL Draft. With Jalen Hurts and Joe Flacco as their primary quarterback options and a roster that is clearly in the rebuild phase, why are the Eagles not being absolutely crushed for passing on a QB1-caliber player?

What about the Carolina Panthers, who traded for Sam Darnold? What has Darnold done in his first three NFL seasons to warrant being bought into over Justin Fields?

We’re going to completely ignore the fact that the Detroit Lions could have started out a new era with a new head coach and general manager as well by taking Fields and using Jared Goff as just a placeholder until Fields was ready?

Why is nobody talking about the fact that the New England Patriots — who established the perfect offensive scheme to highlight Fields as a passer and runner last season with Cam Newton — passing on the chance to trade up for Fields?

Bill Belichick stayed put and drafted Mac Jones instead of move assets for Justin Fields. He also let Tom Brady walk in free agency and Brady went out and won a title immediately with another team. Why is nobody criticizing these decisions, yet wants to jump all over George Paton and the Denver Broncos?

The Chicago Bears have a head coach and general manager brain trust living on borrowed time. Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace probably should have been fired after the 2020 season but the Bears somehow managed to scratch and claw their way into the postseason.

They wanted to trade for Russell Wilson but couldn’t, so they signed Andy Dalton and saw an opportunity to move up for Fields to potentially save their jobs.

What about the team that traded the pick to the Bears in the first place? Are we really buying that Daniel Jones is a better long-term option for the New York Giants than Justin Fields would be?

Why did the Washington Football Team not make the same trade the Chicago Bears made? They liked Jamin Davis better than Justin Fields?

As high as people are on Fields, they seem to be stuck on the fact that the Denver Broncos passed on him but fail to see the perfectly reasonable opportunities to criticize another seven or eight teams that deserve the same type of negative attention.
 

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It's a legit complaint, however the entire premise has yet to be determined. If Fields is a dud then they (all teams that passed on him) are justified. Conversely, if he is a stud then they deserve criticism for passing (all teams not just the Bronco's). I'm fearful of the Bear fans expectations on Fields being too high. I'm a fan of whom ever is our starting QB. I hope Fields is our guy for many years to come.
 

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It's a legit complaint, however the entire premise has yet to be determined. If Fields is a dud then they (all teams that passed on him) are justified. Conversely, if he is a stud then they deserve criticism for passing (all teams not just the Bronco's). I'm fearful of the Bear fans expectations on Fields being too high. I'm a fan of whom ever is our starting QB. I hope Fields is our guy for many years to come.

eh

I see what you are saying, but the draft just doesn't work that way. You can't actually eliminate risk. So teams are always, always, always measuring risk against opportunity

For the Broncos they are juggling the risk vs opportunity of sticking with Lock and gaining a 2022 1st vs the risk/opportunity of drafting Fields. How that risk/opportunity is measured depends on internal scouting of Lock and scouting of Fields. And how they value that extra 2022 1st.

I don't think the hindsight argument works. You have to go with what you think about Lock and a 1st vs Fields right now and decide if you think they are dumb given the available info at the time.

Personally, I think Fields has shown enough potential upside as a draft prospect that they are fucking stupid for passing on him. Imo the opportunity Fields presents is worth the risk of a rookie QB, dumping Lock, and passing on that extra 1st.
 

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eh

I see what you are saying, but the draft just doesn't work that way. You can't actually eliminate risk. So teams are always, always, always measuring risk against opportunity

For the Broncos they are juggling the risk vs opportunity of sticking with Lock and gaining a 2022 1st vs the risk/opportunity of drafting Fields. How that risk/opportunity is measured depends on internal scouting of Lock and scouting of Fields. And how they value that extra 2022 1st.

I don't think the hindsight argument works. You have to go with what you think about Lock and a 1st vs Fields right now and decide if you think they are dumb given the available info at the time.

Personally, I think Fields has shown enough potential upside as a draft prospect that they are fucking stupid for passing on him. Imo the opportunity Fields presents is worth the risk of a rookie QB, dumping Lock, and passing on that extra 1st.
Are you referring to gaining a 2022 1st if they had traded with the Bears? If they were planning on sticking with Lock, it becomes an even bigger head scratcher. Surtain II at #9 instead of 2 1sts +, more than the 4th and 5th the Bears gave for the 11th. Hard to swallow that one as a Broncos fan.
 

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“For a player who was the QB2 behind Trevor Lawrence for many NFL Draft fans, pundits, and analysts in this draft class, it was clear that there was a major disconnect between what Draft Twitter and football talking heads thought about Justin Fields and what NFL teams actually thought of him.

NFL teams get personnel decisions wrong all the time, there’s no question about it. But how could so many QB-needy teams be so unanimous on this one player?”

My favorite part. This happens all time with QB needed teams, why do you think fucking Rogers or Mahomes fell?
 
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This dude's line of thinking is all over the place.
 

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LOL. The other teams were just as stupid so not so bad argument.

I played golf with a guy a couple weeks after the draft. I mentioned our draft and he told me he was a Broncos fan. He started to give me a little shit and I just said 'Fields'. He sadly nodded and said 'ya, we fucked up'.
 
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After Lance went off the board, Denver Broncos fans were in an absolute frenzy over the idea of possibly landing Aaron Rodgers, the remaining potential of drafting Justin Fields, and the potential threat of the team actually taking Mac Jones with the 9th overall pick.
This is my favorite part of the article.

Yeah, teams other than the Broncos could have drafted Fields, but so could the Broncos.

Who does this guy write for? It seems like an article where you want to get on Patton's good side.
 

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Thank the defensive minded headcoach, Vic Fangio...he wanted a db
 

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People are only talking about Lock, but didnt they grab Bridgewater also? Not that I think he is any better but apparently they do so much that they passed on fields and maybe looking to 2022 Draft for a QB?
 

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Couple of things. Just about every Bronco fan wanted them to draft Fields. The ones who didn't wanted to draft Parsons or Slater. This guy had Fields going #4 in his mock draft. 2021 NFL Mock Draft: Sayre Bedinger of NFL Mocks | NFL Mock Draft Database

Every other team he mentions has better QB play than the Broncos. Out of all the teams that passed on Fields, the Broncos have the worst excuse to do so.
 

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People are only talking about Lock, but didnt they grab Bridgewater also? Not that I think he is any better but apparently they do so much that they passed on fields and maybe looking to 2022 Draft for a QB?
Bridgewater + Fields >>>>>>> Bridgewater + Lock
 

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eh

I see what you are saying, but the draft just doesn't work that way. You can't actually eliminate risk. So teams are always, always, always measuring risk against opportunity

For the Broncos they are juggling the risk vs opportunity of sticking with Lock and gaining a 2022 1st vs the risk/opportunity of drafting Fields. How that risk/opportunity is measured depends on internal scouting of Lock and scouting of Fields. And how they value that extra 2022 1st.

I don't think the hindsight argument works. You have to go with what you think about Lock and a 1st vs Fields right now and decide if you think they are dumb given the available info at the time.

Personally, I think Fields has shown enough potential upside as a draft prospect that they are fucking stupid for passing on him. Imo the opportunity Fields presents is worth the risk of a rookie QB, dumping Lock, and passing on that extra 1st.

I think them and Carolina are fucking stupid for passing on him. You can make a case for Atlanta too, for not looking at the future, but Carolina and Denver were dumb as hell.
 

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This is my favorite part of the article.

Yeah, teams other than the Broncos could have drafted Fields, but so could the Broncos.

Who does this guy write for? It seems like an article where you want to get on Patton's good side.
My favorite part is that he lays out not only why so many people think passing on Fields was a huge mistake, but also highlights how they then went on to draft a guy at a position of little need after signing Fuller this offseason.



The frenzy reached a boiling point with the Broncos on the clock and Justin Fields somehow still on the board. No one had traded up ahead of the Broncos to get him. No one ahead of the Broncos took him for themselves.

For a player who was the QB2 behind Trevor Lawrence for many NFL Draft fans, pundits, and analysts in this draft class, it was clear that there was a major disconnect between what Draft Twitter and football talking heads thought about Justin Fields and what NFL teams actually thought of him.


Fields is an impressive prospect physically, his production at Ohio State was outstanding, and he is seemingly the ideal fit for what the NFL is trending towards in terms of being a quarterback that can beat you with his arms or legs.


I liked Fields coming out of Ohio State over both Zach Wilson and Trey Lance, to be clear.

The Denver Broncos turned in their pick, and at this point, because an Aaron Rodgers trade had not been consummated as many seemed to think it might, there was a moment of mass outrage and pure shock when the
team turned in a card for Pat Surtain II.

The Broncos’ free agency splurge on the secondary made the selection of Surtain a bit of a head-scratcher, but what drew complete outrage from so many fans who don’t see the upside in Drew Lock is the fact that the team passed on Fields.
 

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My favorite part is that he lays out not only why so many people think passing on Fields was a huge mistake, but also highlights how they then went on to draft a guy at a position of little need after signing Fuller this offseason.
I *think* the author is missing the key ingredient here, and that's Vic Fangio. A leopard doesn't change his spots, and I think Vic wants that great pass defense, and there's a certain amount of comfortability with a guy like Bridgewater than a rookie QB.
 

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I *think* the author is missing the key ingredient here, and that's Vic Fangio. A leopard doesn't change his spots, and I think Vic wants that great pass defense, and there's a certain amount of comfortability with a guy like Bridgewater than a rookie QB.
That and he'll favor a defensive player more than another HC might in the draft.
 

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I *think* the author is missing the key ingredient here, and that's Vic Fangio. A leopard doesn't change his spots, and I think Vic wants that great pass defense, and there's a certain amount of comfortability with a guy like Bridgewater than a rookie QB.
Possibly, but then Fangio is a failure as a HC. The Broncos, much like so many Bears teams, have a good enough defense that they will never again be in position to draft a Fields pedigreed, likely franchise changing type QB. I think Fields dropping to them at #9 is going to be one of those once every few decades chances, brought about by unfounded predraft criticism, that they missed on.

To pass on such a prospective franchise changing player, opting to go into a season with Lock and Bridgewater at QB, because of a lack of "comfortability" at the most important position in sports, is dooming the Broncos to mediocrity for the entirety of Fangio's run as their HC
 

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Possibly, but then Fangio is a failure as a HC. The Broncos, much like so many Bears teams, have a good enough defense that they will never again be in position to draft a Fields pedigreed, likely franchise changing type QB. I think Fields dropping to them at #9 is going to be one of those once every few decades chances, brought about by unfounded predraft criticism, that they missed on.

To pass on such a prospective franchise changing player, opting to go into a season with Lock and Bridgewater at QB, because of a lack of "comfortability" at the most important position in sports, is dooming the Broncos to mediocrity for the entirety of Fangio's run as their HC
I'm giving possible reasons as to why they may have passed on Fields. I'm not suggesting this is/was a good strategy.
 

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