Watson Lawsuit

[r1terrell23]

No one is disputing this point. I am disputing the idea you admitted you were wrong about the law. You did not. If I say you killed Kennedy and you respond thanks, that would not be considered a confession because thanks is not an admission of being wrong. At no point did you say you were wrong. This is about your objectively false claim you used to suggest a woman you don't know was practically a prostitute. You were wrong. Everyone can see that you were wrong and all you said was thanks.

This isn't about me as I never made an objectively false statement in this thread. We often debate opinions but as it is an opinion and not fact, there is no requirement for me to admit I was wrong about a subjective opinion. The issue here is you were wrong about an objective fact. She did not violate the law. Period.

You've made some great points in this thread. I think as men we need to sit back sometimes and be objective about assault against women. Sure, it would make sense for all of the women to immediately leave when he dropped the towel and head to the local PD to file a report. But life doesn't work like this. Look at the celebrity women assaulted by Harvey who could have walked out or quit.

When a woman is in that moment maybe fear and shock kick in. Maybe they feel a celebrity man will ruin their lives if they don't comply. Either way, as grown ass men we all need to be objective and understand someone else's point of view. This being said, Watson is within his rights to tell his story and gather evidence and info as he deems fit. I believe he is doing something wrong as there is too much smoke and too many instagram/snapchat/onlyfans model types. Clearly he has some power and control fetish mixed in with getting some forbidden fruit.

 

[r1terrell23]

You keep tossing out the word "assault'" when the correct word is misconduct. Some/most of these cases are the rough equivallent of slightly intoxicated man rubbing up the waitress's ass, with the exception of the fact there were no witness's.

Rubbing his dick on their hands is assault. Him grabbing their hands to touch his inner anus is assault. Especially when you factor in him removing his towel and making it a sexual situation.

 

[dbldrew]

Not saying I agree with that logic but that is the supposed issue. The more allegations that arise, the more it becomes a statistically oddity that none of them filed a police report of any kind.

the more allegations that arise the more it becomes a statistically oddity that all the girls are just gold diggers fabricating stories.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

You keep tossing out the word "assault'" when the correct word is misconduct. Some/most of these cases are the rough equivallent of slightly intoxicated man rubbing up the waitress's ass, with the exception of the fact there were no witness's.

alleged assault

and no one knows what went on so you cant assume one way or the other

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

I can't wait until Law & Order SVU does an eerily simular show based on this one!

guess starting as a suspect...Aaron Lynch!

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

I dont see how this helps him. This doesnt clear him of the civil charges.

I think it helps in public opinion and creates a shadow of doubt for some. Plus this lawyer refusing to give evidence to police, because personal issues.

Let's just wait for the next chapter, this shit is interesting and keeps taking turns ?

Usually what statement hits the public first, is the one that sticks. Lawyers should never go public fresh off the frying pan, Buzbee actually made a huge announcement on social media giving watson a chance to do w/e if guilty, not a single reporter in the vicinity nor someone buzbee can trust to make it a story for later, if true? did Buz have those accuser's permissions to go make a statement for them publicly?

 

[run and shoot]

Actually, Remi and I have found common ground from seemingly opposing views in the past. He enjoys a debate but acknowledges good points. You've yet to make one. Race has never entered into it with Remi other than him being falsely accused by others with bias. You'd like to think your in that same situation but the false victim thing only hurts your case.

God, you're so full of shoot.

You call this thinly cloaked negative reference "common ground"? Then yer buddy truthbedamn jokes " I see what ya did here". And u come back with the 'thumbs up'. I'll get to the other stuff later. We'll let this marinade for a little while

"truthbedamned," post:
I see what you did there.

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

Maybe in detroit

jeez, the system there would takes years. they say the wheel of justice moves slow.
just imagine..no movement till Watson is like 42 years old and they finally decide the case then..

 

[run and shoot]

Actually, Remi and I have found common ground from seemingly opposing views in the past. He enjoys a debate but acknowledges good points. You've yet to make one. Race has never entered into it with Remi other than him being falsely accused by others with bias. You'd like to think your in that same situation but the false victim thing only hurts your case.

You call this thinly cloaked negative reference "common ground"? Then yer buddy truthbedamn jokes " I see what ya did here". And u come back with the 'thumbs up'. I'll get to the other stuff later. We'll let this marinade for a little while

"truthbedamned," post:
I see what you did there.


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I have found common ground from seemingly opposing views He enjoys a debate but acknowledges good points. You've yet to make one.

Your deceit is so obvious, you to have to laugh. Sure I get it.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Rubbing his dick on their hands is assault. Him grabbing their hands to touch his inner anus is assault. Especially when you factor in him removing his towel and making it a sexual situation.

I said most, not all. Him grabbing there hands and forcing them to do something is most definitely assaults. Incidentally touching with his penis (he is naked) is grey, and a he said she said scenario.

 

[truthbedamned]

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You call this thinly cloaked negative reference "common ground"? Then yer buddy truthbedamn jokes " I see what ya did here". And u come back with the 'thumbs up'. I'll get to the other stuff later. We'll let this marinade for a little while

"truthbedamned," post:
I see what you did there.



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You still don't know how to multiquote or post a cognizant thought. I apologized for implying you were being racist. However I will not apologize for telling you that your thought process in this thread truly sucks.

 

[run and shoot]

U and run and shoot are not the only ones that feel this way

Darius Leonard compares coverage of Deshaun Watson and Chad Wheeler

One specific narrative has emerged in the wake of the 20 lawsuits and counting that have been filed against Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

“It’s crazy that people bash Watson with no evidence but nobody want to say anything about Chad Wheeler who tried to kill his girlfriend,” Leonard said. “I’m just saying now, D Wat got killed with no proof but this guy who tried to put his girlfriend underground @espn or any other outlets was [quiet].”


Great point. Yes...there was no outrage.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

 

[run and shoot]

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You still don't know how to multiquote or post a cognizant thought. I apologized for implying you were being racist. However I will not apologize for telling you that your thought process in this thread truly sucks.

He understood the quotes. I tried to turn off the alert. But it was originally there to show exactly what was said. By all parties.
Apology accepted.

 

[truthbedamned]

“It’s crazy that people bash Watson with no evidence but nobody want to say anything about Chad Wheeler who tried to kill his girlfriend,” Leonard said. “I’m just saying now, D Wat got killed with no proof but this guy who tried to put his girlfriend underground @espn or any other outlets was [quiet].”


Great point. Yes...there was no outrage.

The article you posted actually rebutts his claims. You should try reading it.


“It’s crazy that people bash Watson with no evidence but nobody want to say anything about Chad Wheeler who tried to kill his girlfriend,” Leonard said. “I’m just saying now, D Wat got killed with no proof but this guy who tried to put his girlfriend underground @espn or any other outlets was [quiet].”

We weren’t quiet about Wheeler. We’ve written 12 different stories about Wheeler’s case, and will continue to cover it as developments occur.

 

[remydat]

You keep tossing out the word "assault'" when the correct word is misconduct. Some/most of these cases are the rough equivallent of slightly intoxicated man rubbing up the waitress's ass, with the exception of the fact there were no witness's.

Sexual assault is an act in which a person intentionally sexually touches another person without that person's consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will.

Sexual assault - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That would still be assault by definition because it involved touching and was unwanted. Don't know what to tell you.

 

[remydat]

the more allegations that arise the more it becomes a statistically oddity that all the girls are just gold diggers fabricating stories.

Sure that too. Life is typically not black and white.

I said most, not all. Him grabbing there hands and forcing them to do something is most definitely assaults. Incidentally touching with his penis (he is naked) is grey, and a he said she said scenario.

It is still an alleged assault. Obviously it would have to be proven but the women are not claiming the touching was incidental. That is your spin on it.

 

[run and shoot]

No one is disputing this point. I am disputing the idea you admitted you were wrong about the law. You did not. If I say you killed Kennedy and you respond thanks, that would not be considered a confession because thanks is not an admission of being wrong. At no point did you say you were wrong. This is about your objectively false claim you used to suggest a woman you don't know was practically a prostitute. You were wrong. Everyone can see that you were wrong and all you said was thanks.

This isn't about me as I never made an objectively false statement in this thread. We often debate opinions but as it is an opinion and not fact, there is no requirement for me to admit I was wrong about a subjective opinion. The issue here is you were wrong about an objective fact. She did not violate the law. Period.

Here's the emphasis. (most licensed therapists already required this in their practice.)

"practically a prostitute." NO... I said "borders on prostitution". Meaning she went through with a nude massage void of a towel.

U like to point out wrongs, but never ur own. You want even talk about why or when u became a Bears fan. You've ran from this question every since I first asked u. You seem to worry to much about the "casting of aspersions".

 

[run and shoot]

The article you posted actually rebutts his claims. You should try reading it.


“It’s crazy that people bash Watson with no evidence but nobody want to say anything about Chad Wheeler who tried to kill his girlfriend,” Leonard said. “I’m just saying now, D Wat got killed with no proof but this guy who tried to put his girlfriend underground @espn or any other outlets was [quiet].”

We weren’t quiet about Wheeler. We’ve written 12 different stories about Wheeler’s case, and will continue to cover it as developments occur.

Ok I'll admit I didn't read the full article. I stopped at Darius Leonard quote. I haven't noticed ppl here talking about the Wheeler inciident like this Watson thing......but maybe I missed it.

 

[dbldrew]

Here's the emphasis. (most licensed therapists already required this in their practice.)

"practically a prostitute." NO... I said "borders on prostitution". Meaning she went through with a nude massage void of a towel.

exactly just like when a woman is a little drunk walking alone down an ally and she is dressed slutty.. she is basically asking to be raped.. I mean its not rape if she is basically asking for it right?