Way too Early Mock Draft and with some off season

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It is entirely possible that the Bears pick up the 5th year on Fields (smart thing to do imo) and also draft a top prospect at quarterback. I don't know enough to weigh in on either, what I have seen from Williams I am not impressed. He seems mentally soft too, a bit of a drama queen and again from what I have read a bunch of red flags. MHJ/QB or QB/Edge imo is what I would do with 1 and 4.

If Fields works out great, you have trade bait for him or prospect. If Fields fails, doesn't progress you let prospect take over in 2025. You lose ability to get draft picks back for Fields, but possibly a comp pick.

And also going by history, at some point JF will miss a few games so you can see what you have in prospect.
 

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Not in favor of two receivers that high. #1 Receivers need the ball alot. So that is too many receivers who need the ball even on a team that throws a lot, and with Fields the Bears aren't going to be that.

Draft lots of DL, you can never have enough of them. OL too, really.
 

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Only a clueless fan would think they haven't lost their luster. But we can agree to disagree.
I mean quite a few people who have a clue are projecting 2 qbs ahead of the most hyped wr prospect in a decade+ and generally people are expecting at least 3 qbs top 10 and likely another 1 or 2 in round 1. But yeah since fans like to give their uninformed opinions based off a game or 2 I guess that means they've lost their luster
 

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What has Moon done to extend him another year, hard pass on him
He has not done enough to get a huge payday, that I'll agree to, but he has done enough to get a deal relative to what a WR3 gets paid in the NFL. Should we be able to draft MHJ and Nabers, he'd be WR4, but would probably get more targets and receptions due to opposing D's having to account for them.
 

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Way too Early Mock Draft and with some off season. I'm not good at the contract details, so let's just say that Poles signs them to market rates. Also, all draft value and position is from the consensus mock draft big board.

FA:



Sign Chase Young. We get him anyway.

Sign Christian Wilkins DT.

Yup. DLs that can cause havoc.

Sign Jeremy Reaves S. He’s a known quantity from his time on the Eagles. He’s young, hungry for a new deal, and coming off IR. He will be happy to take a one-year deal to make big money and compete with a top draft pick. See more below.

Sign a C — Tyler Biadasz — I wanted him in that draft, and now we finally get badass. Yes.



Pay Cairos Santos and his buddy Patrick Scales. They’ve earned their money.

Pay Money Mooney a contract parallel to his performance. He gets more guaranteed.

Franchise tag JJ. Let him whine. If he wants to get paid, he best show out, or he’ll be out.





Cut EJax, because over 12 million reasons say it’s a good idea.

Cut Whitehair, as he’s already gone. Wasn’t he benched?



Draft:

1.1 As long as Arizona doesn’t end up picking second, trade back to 1.3 with NE. Receive a 1st, 2nd, 4th, 1st in 25. We don’t get a player, as we get draft picks. A haul.

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Take MHJ. Laugh at all ‘em mofos that talked about us drafting Caleb Williams. Keep laughing as MHJ smokes the league.



1.5 trade back to 9 with The Chargers. They happily grab Chop Robinson. We pick up a 2nd, a 4th, and next year’s 2nd. The Chargers fall in love with Chop and his potential during the underwear Olympics and goes all in replacing Mack who is on his last year of his contract in ‘24. Their fan base loses their minds, because they thought they moved up for Alt or Nabers.

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1.9 Draft Malik Nabers, WR LSU — Poles has shown he’ll throw punches in bunches. We don’t know what Mooney’s going to do. We don’t really know what is going on with speedy Tyler Scott and his hands. DJ Moore has one more year left on his deal. People talk about the QB rookie salary cap. DJ Moore is bringing in over 20 mil a year. Getting two dangerous weapons on a rookie salary cap while ensuring that the offense’s potential skyrockets is a coup. Nabers would be dangerous as a WR that virtually never sees a double team and can soak up the targets that will be there as teams try and cover MHJ and DJ MF Moore. Teams hate the Bears for this.

Oh shit! It’s a trade up! Poles swaps a 2nd and 4th he just picked up and get their 5th and 1st.

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(Courtesy of Pick Value Calculator)

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1.28 draft Cooper Dejuan, DB Iowa — we jump right in front of KC. We give up our pick from the Patriots and a fourth. We pick up a Fifth, probably 167 overall. He falls because of his mysterious phantom lower leg injury. By signing a stop gap S to replace Action Jackson, whose salary is way too high, we get his heir as a multi-dimensional D piece that would be the perfect pick. We have signed a starting caliber S at a bargain price rate, so we can bring in Copper DeJuan along as he needs to be. If he can start at S from jump, all the better.

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2.14 Jackson Powers-Johnson, C Oregon — potentially the highest upside as a C, but lacks starting and playing experience. He doesn’t have to start, because we signed Biadasz, but if we wins the job, he will. He may be the future at C, making Biadasz’s short FA deal a bargain.

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3.04 (68) Maason Smith, DL LSU – Big Poles likes his fallen five-star athletic freaks. Stars don’t fall like Smith. He’s the type of dude you gamble on.

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4.03 (103) James Williams, S Miami – this is a mean motherfucker who is big and can hit. I’ve had people get angry when I bring him up and call him a dirty player. He’s what you’d expect from Miami, and Big Poles already shows he’ll draft from there. He moves like a much smaller man playing safety. It’s incredible how he can move at his size. Holy shit. Big Poles doubles down on Safety, finding a dude that can spell Brisker, maybe be able to actually play FS, and be a defensive chess piece.

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4.04 (132) Kiran Amegadjie, OL Yale – Big Poles keeps up his trend of drafting OL late by drafting this prospect who grew into an NFL frame. He is from Illinois. He plays like a man among boys, and is the kind of prospect that will pay off in a few years down the road.

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5.04 (141) Ben Sinnot, TE Kansas State — a versatile blocker and TE like the FBs in SF and Miami who allowed for us to skip on Bowers. Watch him play. He blocks, catches, and is a scrappy hustler. He will be a low key weapon in this offense that is a moving piece that other teams’ D won’t be able to account for and will overlook. He becomes a team captain and fixture at UTE.

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5.28 (167) Ray Davis, RB Kentucky – This kid gets no love. He’s a hard runner. He’ll explode through gaps. He’s tough. Drafting a Running Back every year becomes a Big Poles staple. With no guarantee Big Poles is going to pay Foreman and him probably being gone next year, Davis could be the dude that gets the hard yards and grinds down a team.
I like it and see a future as a GM for you.
 

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Would rather take Caleb at 1 and then Malik nabers with our second first. Trade Justin to recoup a 2nd or a late first. Just that pick to take best center. Then fill out rest of the roster.
 

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He has not done enough to get a huge payday, that I'll agree to, but he has done enough to get a deal relative to what a WR3 gets paid in the NFL. Should we be able to draft MHJ and Nabers, he'd be WR4, but would probably get more targets and receptions due to opposing D's having to account for them.
Thats the right answer.
 

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I would do free agency a bit differently. My pick ups would be Justin Madubuike, Connor Williams, Bryce Huff/Jonathan Greenard, and Alohi Gilman
 

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I would do free agency a bit differently. My pick ups would be Justin Madubuike, Connor Williams, Bryce Huff/Jonathan Greenard, and Alohi Gilman
Madubuike is great, I've been mentioning him all season, but why wouldn't BAL resign him? Same with Greenard.

To me you have to look at teams that are going to be tight on cap or have a lot of players at that position.
 

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It's interesting how much bears fans want Williams because Dolphins and cowboy fans didn't particularly like him
 

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I'm torn between a QB + MHJ/Nabers/Odunze in the first, or keeping Fields, drafting MHJ, and trading back to accrue more picks. This team still needs talent all over the place, especially on the defensive line. But I guess it depends on what happens in free agency again. And how the evaluations of Fields and Braxton Jones go.

But definitely not 2 WRs in the top 10. Lol. That would be fun to do if this team was stacked with talent, but it's not. It clearly has more talent than it had last season, but there are still glaring needs.
I’ve attached this video where Mike Renner discusses the fact that he believes that if it weren’t for MHJ, Nabers would probably go 3rd overall. I don’t disagree. The league is a passing league and weapons are key. Having three dominant receivers would give us a lot of wins.

There's absolutely no way in hell they're gonna draft two WR's in the top 10.
It would be the best way to mitigate the oncoming big deals with Fields and Moore. People discuss the QB rookie contract. They use KC as an example, as they had to move Cheetah to Miami. Having the ability to keep two ridiculous receivers on rookie deals with a fifth year option and be able to trade one at some point, should we choose to or sign them, yeah. That’s the way to go.
Change Nabors to Verse or Latu. Maybe?
It’s not a balanced league anymore. It just isn’t. We need firepower. I’m about going nuclear. Also, I’m not sure Maason Smith isn’t a DE. He may be a powerful end capable of sealing the edge and applying pressure, so Sweat could eat. He’s my sneaky DE. I know he’s considered a DT, but see the potential and grade the flashes.

Finally, the D can win games as is. Add in some FA and Smith with DeJean, and it should be good. It’s all about the O!

Id take MHJ and bowers but not nabers and MHJ.

Believe it or not Ben Sinnot is the poor man’s Brock Bowers. There may be some hype coming his way soon, as his success and big games can’t be completely ignored. He may sky rocket during the Senior bowl and draft process. Anyway, he would be a perfect TE2/Move TE to complement Kmet. He could also and has actually carried the football as a runner. He would allow for the Bears to line up in 3 wide, 2 TE sets and motion him to a single back look. It would be a real headache for a DC to read him. His blocking is good, and the dude is a tenacious throwback.

Broshmo discusses him at the 25:30 of this video.

 
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