We Should Try to Get Chris Paul for Derrick Rose!

[mlewinth]

So, your probobly all thinking i'm nuts. Maybe I am. But read Sam Smith today:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_091116.html

He makes a ton of great reasons why the Hornets should seriously consider trading Chris Paul and you know what....I agree with him. The Hornets are up shit creek and keeping Paul on their roster means that all they are doing is trying to appease him, which will be almost impossible to do, with their crappy team, crappy salary cap outlook and being too mediocre to most likely get a top 3 pick in any draft.

Ok, so after reading Sam's article and understanding the rationale of WHY New Orleans would want to trade Paul, why wouldnt the Bulls be the best of suitors!?!? As far as youth, you won't get anything for Chris Paul better then a crappy teams #1 picks in a few drafts. Then you will get some expiring contracts to make the money work. If your trading Paul, you DO NOT want a expensive star. That's the whole reason your trading CP3 in the first place. Anyways, say the Bulls come and offer Rose and XXXXX to make a deal. WHy wouldnt New Orleans consider this!?!!? Derrick Rose is a reigning Rookie of the Year and was a highly touted #1 pick. Odds are that even if you get the next 3 picks from a New York KNicks (as an example), not 1 of them will be a #1 pick and none of them would be as good as Derrick is, or is projected to be. On the flip side of that, Derrick is on his rookie contract and won't be getting paid for another 3 years. That gives you ample time to try to blow things up and build a core.

The biggest "if" here is obviously, New Orleans desire to trade Paul. Let's assume they did want to trade him, for the sake of the argument. Can anyone tell me why the Bulls wouldnt be the best of suitors?

 

[B1LLIONAIREKR3W]

:huh: :huh: :S :S :blink: :blink:

 

[Diddy1122]

What happened to you Mark? Jennings has a good start to his rookie season & all of the sudden Rose is as bad as Brevin Knight in your eyes. I'm not a fair weather fan, so I'm not giving up on a #1 pick after a ROY season & 9 games played this year on a bum ankle.

It's amazing how 1 55pt game by a rookie against the who-cares Warriors has skewed your perception to the point of absurdity.

 

[houheffna]

If you want to attract free agents...that is the move to make. Otherwise, you might want to see this Rose thing through.

 

[Diddy1122]

A little something else to add for all those now jumping off the Rose bandwagon.

CP3 was not the CP3 he is now UNTIL HIS 3RD SEASON!

Have a little patience & a little faith people.

 

[Dpauley23]

I don't get why you people wouldn't to do it. Paul is the 3rd best player in the league and Rose well even if he turns into the guy we all hope won't ever top the crack 5 as he doesn't have enough court vision. I think this was actually discussed some time around the playoffs on the board

 

[Shakes]

I can't believe there's anyone who wouldn't trade Rose for Paul. What's the chances Rose becomes better than Paul? 100 to 1? After LeBron and Howard, Paul is probably the third guy in the league taken if the entire league went up for a draft due to the combination of age + talent.

I don't see how saying you'd trade Rose for Paul is in any way jumping off the Rose bandwagon, it's jsut common sense.

 

[Diddy1122]

Altered Lyrics to "Patience" by Guns n Roses

Rose is driving the lane tonight, but his ankle just don't feel right.
It's hard to score with all these bodies around,
it's like his feet are being glued to the ground,
and now the fans are all crying out for a trade,
and we all know that JR is to blame
BG we need you, YEAAA YEA, we need you
OOOO we need you, OOOOO we need you,
to score outsiiiiiide yeyeyeaaaa

 

[Diddy1122]

Shakes wrote:

I can't believe there's anyone who wouldn't trade Rose for Paul. What's the chances Rose becomes better than Paul? 100 to 1? After LeBron and Howard, Paul is probably the third guy in the league taken if the entire league went up for a draft due to the combination of age + talent.

I don't see how saying you'd trade Rose for Paul is in any way jumping off the Rose bandwagon, it's jsut common sense.

I'd make the trade but I just don't get why everyone is giving up on Rose already. He's injured for 1, 2) most stars don't break out until their 2-3rd years in the league, & 3) the reason we haven't won as much is not Rose, it's Salmons & Hinrich's atrocious shooting. Give the kid a friggin' chance is all.

 

[houheffna]

Altered Lyrics to "Patience" by Guns n Roses

Rose is driving the lane tonight, but his ankle just don't feel right.
It's hard to score with all these bodies around,
it's like his feet are being glued to the ground,
and now the fans are all crying out for a trade,
and we all know that JR is to blame
BG we need you, YEAAA YEA, we need you
OOOO we need you, OOOOO we need you,
to score outsiiiiiide yeyeyeaaaa

OK, I am all for getting Paul now....anything to stop people from singing about BG!

:S :S :S

 

[Diddy1122]

houheffna wrote:

Altered Lyrics to "Patience" by Guns n Roses

Rose is driving the lane tonight, but his ankle just don't feel right.
It's hard to score with all these bodies around,
it's like his feet are being glued to the ground,
and now the fans are all crying out for a trade,
and we all know that JR is to blame
BG we need you, YEAAA YEA, we need you
OOOO we need you, OOOOO we need you,
to score outsiiiiiide yeyeyeaaaa

OK, I am all for getting Paul now....anything to stop people from singing about BG!

:S :S :S

Oh Don't get me started. I could write an entire song about BG & win a grammy for it.

 

[Shakes]

The problem with patience is that Rose might be at his peak value right now. Imagine how much we could have gotten if we traded Kirk, Deng, BG or Chandler while they were on their rookie contracts compared to what we ended up getting (or could get for the players we still have).

Sometimes you have to guess at when you're selling high, and I think with Rose there's a good chance that time is right now. Playing like he is will hurt his value if he continues for the whole year.

 

[Dpauley23]

Diddy1122 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

I can't believe there's anyone who wouldn't trade Rose for Paul. What's the chances Rose becomes better than Paul? 100 to 1? After LeBron and Howard, Paul is probably the third guy in the league taken if the entire league went up for a draft due to the combination of age + talent.

I don't see how saying you'd trade Rose for Paul is in any way jumping off the Rose bandwagon, it's jsut common sense.

I'd make the trade but I just don't get why everyone is giving up on Rose already. He's injured for 1, 2) most stars don't break out until their 2-3rd years in the league, & 3) the reason we haven't won as much is not Rose, it's Salmons & Hinrich's atrocious shooting. Give the kid a friggin' chance is all.

I don't think many people want to get rid of Rose except Mark. For whatever reason he's not using any common sense like saying Tyrus is playing horrible this season.

 

[Diddy1122]

Dpauley23 wrote:

Diddy1122 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

I can't believe there's anyone who wouldn't trade Rose for Paul. What's the chances Rose becomes better than Paul? 100 to 1? After LeBron and Howard, Paul is probably the third guy in the league taken if the entire league went up for a draft due to the combination of age + talent.

I don't see how saying you'd trade Rose for Paul is in any way jumping off the Rose bandwagon, it's jsut common sense.

I'd make the trade but I just don't get why everyone is giving up on Rose already. He's injured for 1, 2) most stars don't break out until their 2-3rd years in the league, & 3) the reason we haven't won as much is not Rose, it's Salmons & Hinrich's atrocious shooting. Give the kid a friggin' chance is all.

I don't think many people want to get rid of Rose except Mark. For whatever reason he's not using any common sense like saying Tyrus is playing horrible this season.

Tyrus has not had a good season. He had 1 good game. That's it. But he's barely played so I'll give him a chance when he gets back. Tyrus is one of the most frustrating players I've ever seen in a Bulls uni. The kid has unbelievable athletic ability but that's the thing, he's an athlete posing as a basketball player. He has no concept of the game. His on ball defense is weak & his offensive awareness is pitiful. I'm afraid this kid just never will get it. But he'll have a spot on any roster because he's a superior athlete.

 

[Dpauley23]

Considering that he's averaging 9 and 7 in 23 minutes seems pretty good. Just to let you know most of the Bulls on ball defense is pretty much crap except Hinrich and Noah. Tyrus draws fouls at good rate. He's also been the third best player.

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

haha You care to repeat what you just said?

One 55 point game by a ROOKIE...

K, stop right there.

So in other words, it's amazing what someone did for the first time in most of our LIFETIMES can skew our perception to the point where we say absurd things?

Again, if it's so easy to score 55 points against bad teams home come it's been so long since a rookie has done this? Why didn't LeBron do it? Why didn't Jordan do it? Why didn't Kobe do it and if I may be so bold to ask why hasn't Derrick Rose done it?

Waiting for my answer,

Mr. Frank Breakfast-Styleham


Diddy1122 wrote:

What happened to you Mark? Jennings has a good start to his rookie season & all of the sudden Rose is as bad as Brevin Knight in your eyes. I'm not a fair weather fan, so I'm not giving up on a #1 pick after a ROY season & 9 games played this year on a bum ankle.

It's amazing how 1 55pt game by a rookie against the who-cares Warriors has skewed your perception to the point of absurdity.

 

[Chitown773]

I would seriously hurt Gar Forman if I heard he was shopping Derrick Rose. Chris is great and arguably the best PG in the game but he's not worth Derrick Rose. We drafted him and it's the management due to build the right players around him. Kiss my behind where the sun don't shine if you feel like even entertaining the thought. I would stop supporting the Bulls if they were yo give up Derrick Rose for some stud in this league. I wouldn't even trade Derrick Rose for Lebron James. Some stuff you just don't do, regardless of the circumstances.

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

This I agree with 100%.

Diddy1122 wrote:

A little something else to add for all those now jumping off the Rose bandwagon.

CP3 was not the CP3 he is now UNTIL HIS 3RD SEASON!

Have a little patience & a little faith people.

 

[pinkizdead]

Re:We Should Try to Get Chris Paul for Derrick Ros

cp3 for derrick rose is a done deal. i'll be sad to he him go, but i'll pack his bags, sell his house, and look after any matters left behind for rose. cp3 is a star! he makes everyone around him better. i could see the bulls roster becoming all stars with paul on board.

i dont put any stock into paul being shopped any more than i put stock into the lakers trading kobe.

 

[houheffna]

I would seriously hurt Gar Forman if I heard he was shopping Derrick Rose. Chris is great and arguably the best PG in the game but he's not worth Derrick Rose. We drafted him and it's the management due to build the right players around him. Kiss my behind where the sun don't shine if you feel like even entertaining the thought. I would stop supporting the Bulls if they were yo give up Derrick Rose for some stud in this league. I wouldn't even trade Derrick Rose for Lebron James. Some stuff you just don't do, regardless of the circumstances.

Well that is your opinion...

If I could trade Rose for Lebron, I would drive Rose to the damn airport myself!

Rose will NEVER....NEVER be that good...NEVER!!!

And yes, I would trade him for Paul too. If I am in an immediate situation where I can build around Paul right away...like a Bosh or Stoudamire. I do it...no questions asked. Paul is the best pg in the game bar none. Its not close right now. Trading Rose for Paul improves your team. Trading Rose for Lebron is the deal of the century!