What caliber QB do we need to win a superbowl?

[Warrior Spirit]

Btw Dilfer's 2000 post season:

Rk	Year	G#	Date	Age	Tm		Opp	Result	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Y/A	AY/A	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD
3	2000	17	2000-12-31	28-293	BAL		DEN	W 21-3	*	9	14	64.29	130	1	0	118.2	9.29	10.71	1	2	2.00	0
4	2000	18	2001-01-07	28-300	BAL	@	TEN	W 24-10	*	5	16	31.25	117	0	0	58.6	7.31	7.31	4	1	0.25	0
5	2000	19	2001-01-14	28-307	BAL	@	OAK	W 16-3	*	9	18	50.00	190	1	1	83.1	10.56	9.17	7	4	0.57	0
6	2000	20	2001-01-28	28-321	BAL	N	NYG	W 34-7	*	12	25	48.00	153	1	0	80.9	6.12	6.92	1	0	0.00	0

3 TDS to 1 INT. And he never completed more than 12 passes. One game he only completed 5 passes. That speaks to how great the Ravens defense was. But Dilfer did not turn the ball over except once in the AFC Championship.


Can ANYONE in their right mind imagine seeing a QB who put up these numbers make the Super Bowl today?

The equivalent would be the Cardinals making the Super Bowl this year.

They had the best defense and a top running game but what put the team over the top was the takeaways and giveaways. They led the league in takeaways and points off of takeaways while also giving up the fewest turnovers and fewest points off giveaways. I think that's a formula that could still work today but you certainly couldn't do it with a QB like Cutler.

 

[BearsFan51]

Romo borderline hall of famer?

really?

He has the third highest QB rating in the history of the NFL. If he comes through and wins a Super Bowl he's immediately in the conversation.

 

[BearsFan51]

Here is a list of QBs who have started in the Super Bowl. The players in bold on this list are. Hall of Fame QBs. You'll notice that nearly every single Super Bowl played has a QB that is in the Hall of Fame or a QB who will be considered for the Hall of Fame upon retiring. Non-Hall of Fame QBs starting in the Super Bowl are few and far between, it happens VERY rarely and when it does happen it is typically associated with some of the greatest defenses in the history of the NFL i.e the Seahawks, Bears, Ravens, Bucaneers, Giants in the 1990s etc.

To make it to the Super Bowl you have to have to have something elite happen. Another example the Ravens two years ago obviously not a great defense, but Joe Flacco put together one of the greatest playoff performances in the history of the NFL notching 11 touchdown passes and zero INTs during the playoffs. So something or someone has to do something elite.

I
1/15/67
BART STARR, Green Bay Packers Alabama 1/9/34 33
LEN DAWSON, Kansas City Chiefs Purdue 6/20/35 31
II
1/14/68
BART STARR, Green Bay Packers Alabama 1/9/34 34
Daryle Lamonica, Oakland Raiders Notre Dame 7/17/41 26
III
1/12/69
JOE NAMATH, New York Jets Alabama 5/31/43 25
Earl Morrall, Baltimore Colts Michigan State 5/17/34 34
IV
1/11/70
LEN DAWSON, Kansas City Chiefs Purdue 6/20/35 34
Joe Kapp, Minnesota Vikings California 3/19/38 31
V
1/17/71
JOHNNY UNITAS, Baltimore Colts Louisville 5/7/33 37
Craig Morton, Dallas Cowboys California 2/5/43 27
VI
1/16/72
ROGER STAUBACH, Dallas Cowboys Navy 2/5/42 29
BOB GRIESE, Miami Dolphins Purdue 2/3/45 26
VII
1/14/73
BOB GRIESE, Miami Dolphins Purdue 2/3/45 27
Bill Kilmer, Washington Redskins UCLA 9/5/39 33
VIII
1/13/74
BOB GRIESE, Miami Dolphins Purdue 2/3/45 28
FRAN TARKENTON, Minnesota Vikings Georgia 2/3/40 33
IX
1/12/75
TERRY BRADSHAW, Pittsburgh Steelers Louisiana Tech 9/2/48 26
FRAN TARKENTON, Minnesota Vikings Georgia 2/3/40 34
X
1/18/76
TERRY BRADSHAW, Pittsburgh Steelers Louisiana Tech 9/2/48 27
ROGER STAUBACH, Dallas Cowboys Navy 2/5/42 33
XI
1/9/77
Ken Stabler, Oakland Raiders Alabama 12/25/45 31
FRAN TARKENTON, Minnesota Vikings Georgia 2/3/40 36
XII
1/15/78
ROGER STAUBACH, Dallas Cowboys Navy 2/5/42 35
Craig Morton, Denver Broncos California 2/5/43 34
XIII
1/21/79
TERRY BRADSHAW, Pittsburgh Steelers Louisiana Tech 9/2/48 30
ROGER STAUBACH, Dallas Cowboys Navy 2/5/42 36
XIV
1/20/80
TERRY BRADSHAW, Pittsburgh Steelers Louisiana Tech 9/2/48 31
Vince Ferragamo, Los Angeles Rams California, Nebraska 4/24/54 25
XV
1/25/81
Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders Stanford 12/5/47 33
Ron Jaworski, Philadelphia Eagles Youngstown State 3/23/51 29
XVI
1/24/82
JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers Notre Dame 6/11/56 25
Ken Anderson, Cincinnati Bengals Augustana (IL) 2/15/49 32
XVII
1/30/83
Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins Notre Dame 9/9/49 33
David Woodley, Miami Dolphins Louisiana State 10/25/58 24
XVIII
1/22/84
Jim Plunkett, Los Angeles Raiders Stanford 12/5/47 36
Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins Notre Dame 9/9/49 34
XIX
1/20/85
JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers Notre Dame 6/11/56 28
DAN MARINO, Miami Dolphins Pittsburgh 9/15/61 23
XX
1/26/86
Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears BYU 8/21/59 26
Tony Eason, New England Patriots Illinois 10/8/59 26
XXI
1/25/87
Phil Simms, New York Giants Morehead State 11/3/54 32
JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos Stanford 6/28/60 26
XXII
1/31/88
Doug Williams, Washington Redskins Grambling 8/9/55 32
JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos Stanford 6/28/60 27
XXIII
1/22/89
JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers Notre Dame 6/11/56 32
Boomer Esiason, Cincinnati Bengals Maryland 4/17/61 27
XXIV
1/28/90
JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers Notre Dame 6/11/56 33
JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos Stanford 6/28/60 29
XXV
1/27/91
Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants West Virginia 4/22/61 29
JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills Miami (FL) 2/14/60 30
XXVI
1/26/92
Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins Washington State 10/2/62 30
JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills Miami (FL) 2/14/60 31
XXVII
1/31/93
TROY AIKMAN, Dallas Cowboys Oklahoma, UCLA 11/21/66 26
JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills Miami (FL) 2/14/60 32
XXVIII
1/30/94
TROY AIKMAN, Dallas Cowboys Oklahoma, UCLA 11/21/66 27
JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills Miami (FL) 2/14/60 33
XXIX
1/29/95
STEVE YOUNG, San Francisco 49ers BYU 10/11/61 33
Stan Humphries, San Diego Chargers
NE Louisiana 4/14/65 29
XXX
1/28/96
TROY AIKMAN, Dallas Cowboys Oklahoma, UCLA 11/21/66 29
Neil O'Donnell, Pittsburgh Steelers Maryland 7/3/66 29
XXXI
1/26/97
Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers Southern Mississippi 10/10/69 27
Drew Bledsoe, New England Patriots Washington State 2/14/72 24
XXXII
1/25/98
JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos Stanford 6/28/60 37
Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers Southern Mississippi 10/10/69 28
XXXIII
1/31/99
JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos Stanford 6/28/60 38
Chris Chandler, Atlanta Falcons Washington 10/12/65 33
XXXIV
1/30/00
Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams Northern Iowa 6/22/71 28
Steve McNair, Tennessee Titans Alcorn State 2/14/73 26
XXXV
1/28/01
Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens Fresno State 3/13/72 28
Kerry Collins, New York Giants Penn State 12/30/72 28
XXXVI
2/3/02
Tom Brady, New England Patriots Michigan 8/3/77 24
Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams Northern Iowa 6/22/71 30
XXXVII
1/26/03
Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Florida State 9/13/68 34
Rich Gannon, Oakland Raiders Delaware 12/20/65 37
XXXVIII
2/1/04
Tom Brady, New England Patriots Michigan 8/3/77 26
Jake Delhomme, Carolina Panthers Louisiana-Lafayette 1/10/75 29
XXXIX
2/6/05
Tom Brady, New England Patriots Michigan 8/3/77 27
Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia Eagles Syracuse 11/25/76 28
XL
2/5/06
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers Miami (OH) 3/2/82 23
Matt Hasselbeck, Seattle Seahawks Boston College 9/25/75 30
XLI
2/4/07
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts Tennessee 3/24/76 30
Rex Grossman, Chicago Bears Florida 8/23/80 26
XLII
2/3/08
Eli Manning, New York Giants Mississippi 1/3/81 27
Tom Brady, New England Patriots Michigan 8/3/77 30
XLIII
2/1/09
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers Miami (OH) 3/2/82 26
Kurt Warner, Arizona Cardinals Northern Iowa 6/22/71 37
XLIV
2/7/10
Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints Purdue 1/15/79 31
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts Tennessee 3/24/76 33
XLV
2/6/11
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers California 12/2/83 27
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers Miami (OH) 3/2/82 28
XLVI
2/5/12
Eli Manning, New York Giants Mississippi 1/3/81 31
Tom Brady, New England Patriots Michigan 8/3/77 34
XLVII
2/3/13
Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens Delaware 1/16/85 28
Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers Nevada 11/3/87 25
XLVIII
2/2/14
Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks Wisconsin 11/29/88 25
Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos Tennessee 3/24/76 37 - See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.aspx?release_id=97#sthash.b2rH5hvk.dpuf

 

[pseudonym]

I'd say top ten or so.

 

[Q-Tip]

It seems most would agree you need a guy that is at least in the top 10 category, unless you have a great defense. So how do you decide how to go about doing that? Once you realize you have a guy that is stuck in that slightly above average category do you just dump him and try and start over? Do you try and build a defense first, or do you keep using valuable picks on quarterbacks every few years until you finally hit one? Do you think teams like Detroit or Cinncy should move on from Stafford and Dalton? I think we would all agree those guys will never be great QBs.

 

[Bearsfanfillereste]

lol at Alex Smith ranked 20th on your list...Ridiculous.

This Year: 18 TDs 6 Ints 93.4 Qbr
Last Year: 23 TDs 7 Ints 89.3 Qbr

Yet you have Cutler ranked 14th and Stafford ranked 15th ahead of him.

And how exactly do you consider Smith a "journeyman QB"?

Back to the question though, with the current team the Bears need at least a "top 10" QB except for a few exceptions.