What Do You Feed Your Dog? How Did Dog Respond To Getting Castrated. B A R F anyone?

[Fatman LOU]

I'm a fanatic when it come to feeding my 160 pound BoerBoel. His 80/10/10 % balanced diet consists of Meat 80%, 10% organs with liver being 5% and other organs usually spleen or kidney, and Bone 10%. usually a whole raw Chicken leg quarter and a drumstick. His everyday single meal consists of 2oo + grams of organs, 400-550 grams of green tripe, ( cow stomach), 500 + grams of Chicken leg quarter, and a drumstick. The rest is comprised up of heart, tongue and lungs which is considered a meat and meat scraps. He has also had Pheasant when they fly into the side of my garage and whole Mackerel, whole raw eggs and peanut butter. He often gets a Bananna every day, strawberries and a core-less Apple. Never do i feed him Pork or give him ( weight ) bearing bones.
Because of this no filler diet, you would think a poodle crapped in my yard if you were to see it. Small and virtually odorless, says a friend. And his coat is shinny , smooth. However...

With this Hi-Protein diet, he kills anything he urinates on,.Pisses me off damm dog has a forest to go piss in , does he go there, nope he has to piss in the front yard. But i digress....
Today my dog became a young man, he lifted his leg to piss, ( under the front window of coarse ) He's ready to go under the knife if i chose to have him castrated, which im waiting to hear from the Vet. I dont want the dog to become lazy or less aware of his environment around here.

So anyone else feed Bones And Raw Food?
How did your dog respond to getting neutered?

 

[BearFanJohn]

I was told by a vet never to feed a dog bones they could crush and swallow. Yes, even if they are big dogs - I grew up with Rotties and Akitas. I've had several dogs neutered and, other than being drugged up and operated on, it wasn't any different than other surgeries. I have done all of them early in their lives, though. Have a good friend who has had two BoerBoals. Good dogs. Big f*ckers.

 

[Fatman LOU]

I was told by a vet never to feed a dog bones they could crush and swallow. Yes, even if they are big dogs - I grew up with Rotties and Akitas. I've had several dogs neutered and, other than being drugged up and operated on, it wasn't any different than other surgeries. I have done all of them early in their lives, though. Have a good friend who has had two BoerBoals. Good dogs. Big f*ckers.

Yes thats true BearFanJohn. I feed my dog raw chicken , never cooked, the bones dont get brittle and splinter. Sometimes he eats the whole chicken , but mostly just the leg quarters and drumstick. 10lb bag of chicken quarters are cheap at Wallyworld. I wanted a Rott, homeowners insurance wanted more money if i had a ROTT, Akita, Pittbull and a few other breeds of dogs, however they said it was ok to have a sheppard, lab and such, so i got a BoerBoel.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I used to buy whole chickens and pressure cook them, bones became mush and totally edible, mixed with a variety of veggys and brown rice. Then again my dogs were much smaller, only Samoyeds. Lately I feed mainly fresh pet select, and select table scraps. I would stay away from some of the organ meet, never know what crap has accumulated in them in this day an age of farming.

 

[Fatman LOU]

I used to buy whole chickens and pressure cook them, bones became mush and totally edible, mixed with a variety of veggys and brown rice. Then again my dogs were much smaller, only Samoyeds. Lately I feed mainly fresh pet select, and select table scraps. I would stay away from some of the organ meet, never know what crap has accumulated in them in this day an age of farming.

Yeah i understand what your saying. The organ meat accounts for only 10 % of the diet . 5% liver 5% other organ
In most cases here its local farmers bringing in the Herefords or Angus cows to process and sell the meat to local meat buyers.
I know where the cows come from.

Why pressure cook the chicken?

 

[Crystallas]

Our medium sized pack of husky/blue-heeler mixes with voice-boxes removed haven't been fed in years. We just let them hang out at small neighborhood playgrounds and daycare centers.

Vet says they're on the Raw AF diet, and you can tell, their coats shine nicely.

 

[Fatman LOU]

Our medium sized pack of husky/blue-heeler mixes with voice-boxes removed haven't been fed in years. We just let them hang out at small neighborhood playgrounds and daycare centers.

Vet says they're on the Raw AF diet, and you can tell, their coats shine nicely.

Crystallas my dogs coat shines like chrome. People always ask what do i put on him to get him to shine like that . Nothing just a raw food diet. And also the dog dont stink like it would if he were fed a dry dog food . A lot of benefits to a raw diet.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Yeah i understand what your saying. The organ meat accounts for only 10 % of the diet . 5% liver 5% other organ
In most cases here its local farmers bringing in the Herefords or Angus cows to process and sell the meat to local meat buyers.
I know where the cows come from.

Why pressure cook the chicken?

Pressure cooking reduces the bones to mush (only on chicken) so they are completely edible (although I would still pull the leg bones). Pressure cooking also retains almost all of the nutrients. The end product is sterilized (unlike raw) and retains very close to the same amount of nutrients, with a very digestible calcium content. Commercial dry dog food is cooked at high temp, destroying most of its nutritional value, then later glutens and other additives are added to boost protein content, and not always easily digestible for dogs.

 

[Crystallas]

Pressure cooking reduces the bones to mush (only on chicken) so they are completely edible (although I would still pull the leg bones). Pressure cooking also retains almost all of the nutrients. The end product is sterilized (unlike raw) and retains very close to the same amount of nutrients, with a very digestible calcium content. Commercial dry dog food is cooked at high temp, destroying most of its nutritional value, then later glutens and other additives are added to boost protein content, and not always easily digestible for dogs.

Never owned a pressure cooker. Do you eat those bones? I ask because I'm willing to buy a pressure cooker sometime soon and go this route, rather than what I do now(debone, food-save good bits then make bone broth and freeze in bulk).

When I was a homeless kid, I ate the bones. My teeth are not that strong now, and doing the meat grinder method takes forever compared to doing the bone broth.

And BTW, raw diets for dogs are indeed great. Had family with a sick dog that they gave up on, and just started to feed it necks and other uncooked bits. Within a month, it was 100% again. It's as if kibble trees don't exist in nature and dogs don't know how to make fire.

 

[Crystallas]

Crystallas my dogs coat shines like chrome. People always ask what do i put on him to get him to shine like that . Nothing just a raw food diet. And also the dog dont stink like it would if he were fed a dry dog food . A lot of benefits to a raw diet.

Dog built to scare Bears needs to shine a bit.

Ever feed it raw bear? Seems like you have a home run.

 

[Tater]

We give our dog meat, but we usually cook it first without any seasonings. She has eaten a little raw venison before a couple times.

 

[Fatman LOU]

Dog built to scare Bears needs to shine a bit.

Ever feed it raw bear? Seems like you have a home run.

LOL, no he hasn't had raw bear...yet. I hope he scares the bears, we have a pretty brave bear around here that likes to look in peoples windows i was told by neighbor a few miles down the road. Bear would tear the dog up. I need the dogs courage and awareness to get between kids and bear if that happens . Thats why i dont know if i want him neutered. It can make him more lackadaisical . I like to watch his diet , keep him lean, easier on his joints being lean. Teeth are bristling white from the bone in chicken. When the dog runs you can hear it, almost like a horse. Strongest dog i ever owned.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Never owned a pressure cooker. Do you eat those bones? I ask because I'm willing to buy a pressure cooker sometime soon and go this route, rather than what I do now(debone, food-save good bits then make bone broth and freeze in bulk).

When I was a homeless kid, I ate the bones. My teeth are not that strong now, and doing the meat grinder method takes forever compared to doing the bone broth.

And BTW, raw diets for dogs are indeed great. Had family with a sick dog that they gave up on, and just started to feed it necks and other uncooked bits. Within a month, it was 100% again. It's as if kibble trees don't exist in nature and dogs don't know how to make fire.

Do I? No, I could though. I toss a whole chicken in the pot, add some brown rice, yam or squash, egg, some greens (its seldom the same veggies every time), and cook it for about an hour and 15 minutes. then mash it up with a hand held potato masher, after pulling the leg bones out (which could be mashed as well with a little extra effort. There are a lot of different recipes out there for doing it this way.

Almost all carnivores, when they make their kill in the wild, eat the stomach (yuck) contents of it's prey first (that's how they get there veggies). Nothing wrong with a raw diet either, but still suspect to the usual culprits like salmonella, etc. Now, what comes out of the pressure cooker isn't the most nicest smelling thing (it ain't that bad though), but dogs love it.

Over the years I have worked at a meat processing facility(working my way through tech school) and later have done contract work at several cereal plats (Post, Kelloggs). I have seen what goes into kibble. it isn't pretty. Literally meat that the cleanup crew scrapes off the floor, places into 55 gallon brute trash cans, and then sets in an un-refrigerated holding area for a few days until the rendering company comes by to pick it up. The cereal places are much better.

 

[Fatman LOU]

Yeah i know a lot what goes in Kibble. From research and working in close proximities to plants that make dog food. Thats why i prefer a raw diet. The diet i feed the dog would be close to a ( prey ) diet. Thats what a dog would eat in the wild . Actually what i feed is more of a ( franken prey) diet, ( a little bit of everything). I'm telling you from years of experience your wasting your time pressure cooking the chicken, but if it makes you feel better go for it . Do some research. Dogs stomachs dont break down plant food like ours . The stomach ( tripe) that the dogs eat in the wild is the most beneficial ( nutrients) too the dog. With this stomach the dogs get all the ( probiotics ) in their diet .
I wouldn't say dogs eat the stomach of animals to get the vegetables, lol, plant matter is hard for dogs too break down . You dont need to pressure cook raw chicken , Google is your friend.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Yeah i know a lot what goes in Kibble. From research and working in close proximities to plants that make dog food. Thats why i prefer a raw diet. The diet i feed the dog would be close to a ( prey ) diet. Thats what a dog would eat in the wild . Actually what i feed is more of a ( franken prey) diet, ( a little bit of everything). I'm telling you from years of experience your wasting your time pressure cooking the chicken, but if it makes you feel better go for it . Do some research. Dogs stomachs dont break down plant food like ours . The stomach ( tripe) that the dogs eat in the wild is the most beneficial ( nutrients) too the dog. With this stomach the dogs get all the ( probiotics ) in their diet .
I wouldn't say dogs eat the stomach of animals to get the vegetables, lol, plant matter is hard for dogs too break down . You dont need to pressure cook raw chicken , Google is your friend.

To clarify, Tripe is the stomach lining, I was referring to stomach contents. Pressure cooking the chicken makes the bone meal more digestible, it's not done for the vegetables. And you do realize that dogs come in different sizes right? Not all are 160 lb behemoths. Many a small to medium sized dog has died on raw or non pressured cooked chicken bones.

Carnivores have shorter digestive tracts than herbivores and omnivores (ex. Humans). Mainly, their small intestine is not as long, so food quickly passes through the digestive system. Plant material takes longer to digest and needs a longer digestive system to allow the breakdown and re-absorption of the nutrients. Meat is easier to digest quickly and obtain the nutrients. In addition, since these Carnivores are eating the meat from mostly herbivorous animals, they eat all of the organs from the animal and will consume the digested plant matter from the herbivores' small intestine. This is how they are able to take in plant matter and also are able to obtain the nutrients from it.

 

[Crystallas]

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[Fatman LOU]

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I hope that behemoth dont choke on them un-cooked bones.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I hope that behemoth dont choke on them un-cooked bones.

Did you even listen to the video? LOL, don't give a larger dog a chicken wing/leg, it could choke on them.

 

[Fatman LOU]

Did you even listen to the video? LOL, don't give a larger dog a chicken wing/leg, it could choke on them.

I didn't hear the video no.
Yes thats possible a dog can choke on a chicken bone wing. My dog has been eating raw and bones since he was 8 weeks old. Yes you should watch the dog when giving it a bone, especially dogs that never ate bones before. I always watch when my dog eats, the crunching of the chicken leg quarters always amaze me how powerful his jaws are .

 

[Burque]

I feed the beasts dry food, but decent dry food. Have one that is allergic to chicken so she doesn't get any of that.

However our dogs get scraps and a lot of raw veggie scraps as we prep etc.

As far as castration I have heard a couple of theories.

1. that it calms down the boy because he doesn't have as much doggie testosterone running through his body. so good for calming a neurotic male wild boy down.

2. can cause some insecurity issues and even some temperament issues because of said insecurity.

My personal opinion is that nuetering males and fixing femals is important to keep stray populations down. This is far more important in the cat population.

I get all of my dogs fixed.