What is really wrong with the educational system

[tvltre]

A special education teacher caught on tape bullying a student and threatening him.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wl5HUJKejA



I just cannot believe this guy still has a job!

 

[Tater]

Along those same lines locally:



http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-11-15/news/ct-met-teacher-prez-video1115-20111115_1_teachers-union-duncan-lisp



CTU's Lewis apologizes to Duncan



Teachers union leader calls education secretary after video surfaces of her making fun of his lisp

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Chicago Teachers Union President President Karen Lewis, shown last month,… (Antonio Perez, Chicago Tribune)

November 15, 2011|By Joel Hood, Chicago Tribune reporter



Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis on Monday called U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan to apologize for making a joke about Duncan's lisp in a talk with teachers union leadership in Seattle last month.

A clip of Lewis' remarks was widely circulated online Monday by a nonprofit education group. In the half-hour video, Lewis says of Duncan, "Now, you know he went to a private school because if he had gone to a public school he would have had that lisp fixed."

Afterward, Lewis seemed to back off the statement, saying, "I know, that was ugly, wasn't it? I'm sorry."

As the video made the rounds on local television Monday, Lewis called Duncan to apologize, saying she can "never let frustrations get in the way of carrying out my responsibilities as a leader."

Duncan, the former chief of Chicago Public Schools, has clashed with union leaders in Chicago and elsewhere for his public support of nonunion charter schools, turning around failing schools by removing all teachers and staff, and other education initiatives.

Later in the video, Lewis joked about her own time in college, saying she "self-medicated" with marijuana. She also lambasted a Tribune editorial cartoon from this year that depicted Lewis in the corner of a classroom wearing a dunce cap.

Lewis called the cartoon, which exaggerated some of her features, as "vicious" and "nasty."

Chicago Public Schools officials declined to comment on the Lewis video. But union spokeswoman Stephanie Gadlin said Lewis was simply trying to use humor to "lighten the mood" at the education rally.

 

[jakobeast]

Well, the fact they are Flyers fans speak volumes.























I was in special education as a kid(shocking eh?), and ran into something like that before. However, I didn't take it sitting down. I reared back and punched the administrator. He was asking for it. Literally. Asked me to punch him in the face. And I obliged.



Not that I think the kid in the video was wrong. No, quite the opposite, he was very smart for not being adversarial.

 

[winos5]

Child abuse/neglect is commonplace and crosses all boundries, particularly with those that are most vulnerable.

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah, Jako beat me to it, the kid has a flyers fan for a dad, of course he's special.



I guarantee you this kid isn't 100% innocent and an angel but no one deserves this shit.

 

[tvltre]

No kid...no matter who is is should not be confronted like that by a teacher. It is not a teacher's place to make fun of a child and tell him he is gonna kick his but when he is 80 years old.



Furthermore, the kid is saying,"Don't call me special","Call me normal". For a teacher who is suppose to help educate children...this piece of shit hasn't a clue. His superiority complex shows him off to be nothing but a prick!

 

[jakobeast]

No kid...no matter who is is should not be confronted like that by a teacher. It is not a teacher's place to make fun of a child and tell him he is gonna kick his but when he is 80 years old.



Furthermore, the kid is saying,"Don't call me special","Call me normal". For a teacher who is suppose to help educate children...this piece of shit hasn't a clue. His superiority complex shows him off to be nothing but a prick!

Exactly. And I would call into question his qualifications as a special education teacher. I doubt he has the right degrees to teach special ed classes

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Along those same lines locally:



http://articles.chic...ion-duncan-lisp



CTU's Lewis apologizes to Duncan



Teachers union leader calls education secretary after video surfaces of her making fun of his lisp

• 
  

Chicago Teachers Union President President Karen Lewis, shown last month,… (Antonio Perez, Chicago Tribune)

November 15, 2011|By Joel Hood, Chicago Tribune reporter



Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis on Monday called U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan to apologize for making a joke about Duncan's lisp in a talk with teachers union leadership in Seattle last month.

A clip of Lewis' remarks was widely circulated online Monday by a nonprofit education group. In the half-hour video, Lewis says of Duncan, "Now, you know he went to a private school because if he had gone to a public school he would have had that lisp fixed."

Afterward, Lewis seemed to back off the statement, saying, "I know, that was ugly, wasn't it? I'm sorry."

As the video made the rounds on local television Monday, Lewis called Duncan to apologize, saying she can "never let frustrations get in the way of carrying out my responsibilities as a leader."

Duncan, the former chief of Chicago Public Schools, has clashed with union leaders in Chicago and elsewhere for his public support of nonunion charter schools, turning around failing schools by removing all teachers and staff, and other education initiatives.

Later in the video, Lewis joked about her own time in college, saying she "self-medicated" with marijuana. She also lambasted a Tribune editorial cartoon from this year that depicted Lewis in the corner of a classroom wearing a dunce cap.

Lewis called the cartoon, which exaggerated some of her features, as "vicious" and "nasty."

Chicago Public Schools officials declined to comment on the Lewis video. But union spokeswoman Stephanie Gadlin said Lewis was simply trying to use humor to "lighten the mood" at the education rally.

And this is why she will have a $220k/annual retirement by tax dollars...probably collecting sooner rather than later.





These incidents are all part of the arrogance that has come into the Education industry. Not to say that all educators are like this, but it is promoted from the higher ranks unto the lower. Considering that moving forward is not automatic and almost always dependent on a "peer" review made up of those above you, it becomes a conform or die situation...

 

[jakobeast]

And this is why she will have a $220k/annual retirement by tax dollars...probably collecting sooner rather than later.





These incidents are all part of the arrogance that has come into the Education industry. Not to say that all educators are like this, but it is promoted from the higher ranks unto the lower. Considering that moving forward is not automatic and almost always dependent on a "peer" review made up of those above you, it becomes a conform or die situation...

I dunno. She doesn't look like she will last long. She doesn't look healthy. And I don't mean cause she is a larger lady. But you know, you can look at someone and they just have the look of unhealthy, not long for the world look? She kinda has that.

 

[MassHavoc]

If I was the guy with the lisp, and someone asked me how I felt about the video, I'd say it was just a joke, like the video I made calling her a fat ****.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

I dunno. She doesn't look like she will last long. She doesn't look healthy. And I don't mean cause she is a larger lady. But you know, you can look at someone and they just have the look of unhealthy, not long for the world look? She kinda has that.

Come to think of it, she does have that glow about her.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Caught on Tape: Teachers Union President's Shocking Remarks



Karen Lewis, President of the Chicago Teachers' Union



http://nation.foxnews.com/chicago-teachers-union/2011/11/25/caught-tape-teachers-union-presidents-shocking-remarks

 

[R K]

Although I am not defending this specific incident, because really it has no defense, special education has come such a long way in the past 25-30 years. It's like night and day. Sure you still have to be the best advocate you can be for "your" child, but the system is excellent compared to where it's come from.



I wasn't always happy of how things were going, and when that happened I stepped in to ensure they got right back on track. Once again with everything revolving around being a parent, it BEGINS and ENDS with you.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Although I am not defending this specific incident, because really it has no defense, special education has come such a long way in the past 25-30 years. It's like night and day. Sure you still have to be the best advocate you can be for "your" child, but the system is excellent compared to where it's come from.



I wasn't always happy of how things were going, and when that happened I stepped in to ensure they got right back on track. Once again with everything revolving around being a parent, it BEGINS and ENDS with you.

This. Well said.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Although I am not defending this specific incident, because really it has no defense, special education has come such a long way in the past 25-30 years. It's like night and day. Sure you still have to be the best advocate you can be for "your" child, but the system is excellent compared to where it's come from.



I wasn't always happy of how things were going, and when that happened I stepped in to ensure they got right back on track. Once again with everything revolving around being a parent, it BEGINS and ENDS with you.

Absolutely. One of the more recent changes with special ed has been revolving the instructors\assistants throughout the day to give them a break. I am sure even with the most patient of people that has to be a frustrating job due to the slow rate of success,



The amazing thing about that last sentence is that it is easy to see how true that is. I can pretty much consider the majority of my friends or co-workers and based on their behavior see how involved their parents were in parenting them.

 

[LordKOTL]

Although I am not defending this specific incident, because really it has no defense, special education has come such a long way in the past 25-30 years. It's like night and day. Sure you still have to be the best advocate you can be for "your" child, but the system is excellent compared to where it's come from.



I wasn't always happy of how things were going, and when that happened I stepped in to ensure they got right back on track. Once again with everything revolving around being a parent, it BEGINS and ENDS with you.

Special ed or not, iI think this is the case with parenting....PERIOD.

 

[MassHavoc]

I know since I don't have kids my opinion doesn't really matter, but I feel my tax dollars say it does and I agree that the education system starts and end with the parents. You don't have to be a helicopter parent, and I know some work two jobs, but it could be as simple as taking an interest and asking them about their day. Show them you care about their education and they might too. Be involved. Go to PTA. Go to their sporting events, whatever. Be proactive, don't just ground them for bad grades, that's not going to do much. Drives me nuts to hear people complain about the school their child goes to, and the education of their child, and they haven't stepped foot inside it or even know the teachers name.

 

[LordKOTL]

I think the biggest problem is that a good portion of parents out there expect someone else to do their job for them and raise and educate their kids--and you get these kind of parents from across many different religious, political, econimic, and racial levels, so you can't claim that it's a problem with any given group.



There is one thing my wife pointed out that is a very disturbing trend which is very prevalent in America, but is not at all uncommon elsewhere: Parents, your job is not to be your kids' friend. Your job is to be their parent. They will make their own friends, but they can never make their own parents. That means that yeah, you have to be a bastard or a ***** sometime and teach them that life isn't fair. It means that yeah, you're going to make them cry. It means you can't, nor shouldn't, always give them what they want, and that means you have an obligation to teach them about the touchy subjects--usually when they ask you regardless of age. You will be the bad guy some of the time--get used to it.

 

[MassHavoc]

I know it's off topic but speaking of parenting...



Ohio puts 200-pound third-grader in foster care





What do you guys think?



CLEVELAND (AP) — An Ohio third-grader who weighs more than 200 pounds has been taken from his family and placed into foster care after county social workers said his mother wasn't doing enough to control his weight.

The Plain Dealer reports (http://bit.ly/t68M7D ) that the Cleveland 8-year-old is considered severely obese and at risk for such diseases as diabetes and hypertension.

The case is the first state officials can recall of a child being put in foster care strictly for a weight-related issue.

Lawyers for the mother say the county overreached when authorities took the boy last week. They say the medical problems he is at risk for do not yet pose an imminent danger.

A spokeswoman says the county removed the child because caseworkers saw his mother's inability to reduce his weight as medical neglect.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Ohio-puts-200-pound-third-grader-in-foster-care-2295912.php#ixzz1f2r7GJea​

 

[LordKOTL]

Mass: Have an independent doctor evaluate whether his condition is inborn, or is based off of dietary and excercise neglect.



If he has a disorder in which his weight cannot be controlled, return him to his mom and have the county pay out a settlement.



If his weight can be controlled and is a result of neglect, then yeah, they were right.