What To Expect With Hahn?

[DewsSox79]

What should we expect? what type of team is he going to look to put out there?

 

[Capt. Serious]

Hopefully one that doesn't fold the tent in September.

 

[Rice Cube]

He was supposedly a top GM candidate for other openings before the White Sox committed to him so he's obviously intelligent. I imagine he's pretty proficient at both the traditional and advanced baseball analysis and if he's given enough autonomy he should be able to build your team up pretty well within a shorter period of time. Beyond that I couldn't begin to tell you until after the World Series when they start making more major moves. Wait and see?

 

[DewsSox79]

IMO we are still going to have "sluggers" on the team...you have no choice...you build a team to the stadium. but the other pieces? He is a saber guy, but like I said 1000000 times....he isnt using WAR and UZR. Proprietary metrics is what teams are using, things we have no idea about. When it comes down to basic terms the players from his metric IMO are going to see a lot of pitches, better approaches, and from talking to him for 25 mins at ST a couple years back, he is big on SP.

The guys who hit bombs will stay. guys like beckham may not be back imo.

 

[DewsSox79]

He was supposedly a top GM candidate for other openings before the White Sox committed to him so he's obviously intelligent. I imagine he's pretty proficient at both the traditional and advanced baseball analysis and if he's given enough autonomy he should be able to build your team up pretty well within a shorter period of time. Beyond that I couldn't begin to tell you until after the World Series when they start making more major moves. Wait and see?

if they didnt promote him we would have lost him at some point.

 

[Rice Cube]

Yeah, I think it was a good idea to keep both Kenny and Hahn. I actually didn't know the White Sox had winning records for most of Kenny's tenure even though they only made the playoffs twice, that was an interesting fact even if the division does suck.

 

[DewsSox79]

Yeah, I think it was a good idea to keep both Kenny and Hahn. I actually didn't know the White Sox had winning records for most of Kenny's tenure even though they only made the playoffs twice, that was an interesting fact even if the division does suck.

2006 win 90 games and dont make playoffs

 

[DewsSox79]

I worry that he will be looking at the young players. If he wants to focus on the draft fine....but I hope he isnt looking to be a rebuild. With KW still around that may not happen.

 

[Rice Cube]

I worry that he will be looking at the young players. If he wants to focus on the draft fine....but I hope he isnt looking to be a rebuild. With KW still around that may not happen.

I thought the Sox had lots of MLB-ready talent? I don't pay as much attention as I should so I guess I'm relying on you to tell me. There's nothing that says they can't do both, though, especially if the owner is willing to give them some financial backing.

 

[nickofypres]

I have no idea what to do with Hahn. Hopefully load the team with guys that get on base so Konerko, Dunn, Rios, and Tank and hit something other than solo home runs.

 

[DewsSox79]

their drafts are geared for the now. they want guys who can step up right away in the MLB....with exception to hawkins that is usually how they roll. the guys who stepped up this year like quintana, veal etc werent thought of as MLB players so no one really knows except for out scouts who seem to have an eye to get guys, correct flaws, and put em in the mlb to succeed or atleast be avg.

I think his agenda should be retainingeavy and AJ
Letting youk walk, because he will be an indian no matter what.
Obtaining SPng and since KW has a hard on for greinke, he is a FA so the "bad" farm system doesnt come into play. Money is no thing for JR. He just wants to break even as the sox are his hobby.
Move Viciedo back to 3rd base and get an outfielder
move floyd

 

[Gunzaan]

Honestly, I have no idea what to expect from Hahn so I will try and keep an open mind for the next 2 or 3 years.

With that said, until he earns his own reputation, in the back of my mind I will probably be fearful that he is a KW apprentice. I hope he proves me wrong & builds up the farm system a little, drafts better, and doesn't sign aging sluggers... But that will have to be seen 12 years and only 2 playoffs won't cut it like it seemingly did for the last guy.

 

[DewsSox79]

whatta know same posts over and over.

 

[dabynsky]

their drafts are geared for the now. they want guys who can step up right away in the MLB....with exception to hawkins that is usually how they roll. the guys who stepped up this year like quintana, veal etc werent thought of as MLB players so no one really knows except for out scouts who seem to have an eye to get guys, correct flaws, and put em in the mlb to succeed or atleast be avg.

The Sox draft was real interesting this year, and you wonder if this move was in the works for a while. This draft seems more like the philosophy that Hahn would want, from the little I heard him talk, which was less about building the major league team as quick as possible.

 

[Gunzaan]

I could say the exact same thing about you, dews. Atleast I said I would keep an open mind with Hahn. You can't fault me for hoping he breaks away from the way KW did things, considering he was KW's understudy for so long.

And I think the only thing that I always mention that really bothers you is "2 playoffs in 12 years.". Welp, its a fact and something that I have yet seen defended. I'm not proud of it, hell, I wish KW made the playoffs in 8 of 12 years... But that isn't the case

 

[DewsSox79]

I could say the exact same thing about you, dews. Atleast I said I would keep an open mind with Hahn. You can't fault me for hoping he breaks away from the way KW did things, considering he was KW's understudy for so long.

And I think the only thing that I always mention that really bothers you is "2 playoffs in 12 years.". Welp, its a fact and something that I have yet seen defended. I'm not proud of it, hell, I wish KW made the playoffs in 8 of 12 years... But that isn't the case

well he has a winning record as GM and does have a WS title...something that is hard to obtain for many teams.

Hahn is change, and change is good. I want the Hahn philisophy installed with infusing players....I will not be happy with a rebuild though.

Hahn on sox FAs " hard to sign all 3"

Hahn on Arod "tampering on my first day?"

quotes close enough.

 

[Jntg4]

Probably more of the philosophy we see from GMs and Presidents like Cherington, Epstein, Friedman, Hoyer, etc. but with a taste of the way Williams would do things. He seems to be more progressive-minded, but is still under KW and has to build to the park like Dewey was saying.

He won't do a full rebuild for a few reasons. 1) The team is already competitive. 2) There isn't much of a farm to start from, process would take too long. 3) Not yet an established GM, so we're not sure what kind of job security he'll have. Beyond that, the White Sox are already a pretty good (not great) team.

 

[DewsSox79]

Probably more of the philosophy we see from GMs and Presidents like Cherington, Epstein, Friedman, Hoyer, etc. but with a taste of the way Williams would do things. He seems to be more progressive-minded, but is still under KW and has to build to the park like Dewey was saying.

He won't do a full rebuild for a few reasons. 1) The team is already competitive. 2) There isn't much of a farm to start from, process would take too long. 3) Not yet an established GM, so we're not sure what kind of job security he'll have. Beyond that, the White Sox are already a pretty good (not great) team.

yeah that makes sense, since the farm blows it cant be built The cubs farm wasnt that great when theo came and still isnt the greatest thing since atari so that makes zero sense and is a very ignorant comment.

 

[dabynsky]

yeah that makes sense, since the farm blows it cant be built The cubs farm wasnt that great when theo came and still isnt the greatest thing since atari so that makes zero sense and is a very ignorant comment.

I come to this forum for Sox talk not Cubs talk

 

[Jntg4]

yeah that makes sense, since the farm blows it cant be built The cubs farm wasnt that great when theo came and still isnt the greatest thing since atari so that makes zero sense and is a very ignorant comment.

Way to blow that out of proportion. The Cubs still had prospects, just not enough. Sox have about 1 good prospect.

And those points were only to count when all compounded together, the Cubs sucked, the Sox different. The Cubs HAD to rebuild, the Sox don't, so why would they take that long route and blow up a good team?

Very ignorant comment and a lack of reading comprehension as you again proceed to only look at one part of a wider picture in someone's post and use a rolleyes smiley.