What will next years team look like?

[Johnnyt237]

Obviously we extend an offer sheet to Leonard and resign butler. Try to bring someone like Monroe in and trade Noah,Pau, or Taj.

 

[Diddy1122]

Well you could just as easily replace Danny Green with Mike Dunleavy and have the same effect. Unless that role player is Kyle Korver, it's unlikely that having one specifically is going to put you in a better position than the other. And even with Korver you don't even know for sure if he'll come through in the playoffs. Was anyone really saying that Shumpert and Dellavedova would be what put the Cavs over the top? Credit to the Cavs for doing what they're doing, but it doesn't necessarily have to be those specific guys.

All this to say, we don't specifically need Danny Green or Gerald Green or whoever...but we do need players who can do what they do. At the end of the day, they're just 3&D guys. They fill a role and a need, but it can be anyone who fits that profile.

Agreed. There is so much overreaction by fans right now that it is bordering on comical. If the players (namely MDJ, Niko, and Brooks, who was worthless) made a few more shots in this series, it could be us in the ECF right now. The Cavs shots fell. Ours didn't. It really was that painfully simple. We held the Cavs to 42% shooting. Problem was, we only made 40% of our shots.

Nothing on this team is broken beyond all repair. Tweaks need to be made, starting with a new head coach, as it's pretty obvious to everyone the team needs a new voice in the locker room. Noah needs to move to the bench so Taj can start with Pau. Rose will have his first rehab-free off season in 4 years to better prepare himself for a return to All-NBA player status (something I fully expect will happen next year). There are a lot of good pieces in place on the team already. There is no need for an overhaul of anything and to do so at this point would be incredibly stupid, considering the salary cap increase is going to allow every team to go after bigger named FA's after next season.

 

[Johnnyt237]

Agreed. There is so much overreaction by fans right now that it is bordering on comical. If the players (namely MDJ, Niko, and Brooks, who was worthless) made a few more shots in this series, it could be us in the ECF right now. The Cavs shots fell. Ours didn't. It really was that painfully simple. We held the Cavs to 42% shooting. Problem was, we only made 40% of our shots.

Nothing on this team is broken beyond all repair. Tweaks need to be made, starting with a new head coach, as it's pretty obvious to everyone the team needs a new voice in the locker room. Noah needs to move to the bench so Taj can start with Pau. Rose will have his first rehab-free off season in 4 years to better prepare himself for a return to All-NBA player status (something I fully expect will happen next year). There are a lot of good pieces in place on the team already. There is no need for an overhaul of anything and to do so at this point would be incredibly stupid, considering the salary cap increase is going to allow every team to go after bigger named FA's after next season.

I tend to agree with you guys. Still I'd go after Danny Green because I trtust his shot more. So if you're getting similiar production for him as a 3&D guy that you get out of Dunleavy and maybe some more shots. I'm okay with it. Butler and Rose are the stars anyway. So there's that to consider and the fact getting a third player like LA, Monroe, or something crazy would mean moving contracts to make it work. I think it's time to let McDermott and Snell get more minutes and bring in another Gaurd who is young on a decent deal.

 

[clonetrooper264]

I tend to agree with you guys. Still I'd go after Danny Green because I trtust his shot more. So if you're getting similiar production for him as a 3&D guy that you get out of Dunleavy and maybe some more shots. I'm okay with it. Butler and Rose are the stars anyway. So there's that to consider and the fact getting a third player like LA, Monroe, or something crazy would mean moving contracts to make it work. I think it's time to let McDermott and Snell get more minutes and bring in another Gaurd who is young on a decent deal.

Danny Green is a nice subtle upgrade over Dunleavy because he can play both ways very well. Plus he's younger and more athletic. Problem is, his time with SA probably inflated his value beyond what he's actually worth. He's hyped as one of the best shooters in the league, which is true, but Dunleavy's percentages are actually pretty similar. Both shot about 43-44% from the field and 40+% from 3. Dunleavy at 41% and Green at 42%. Usage rates were pretty similar as well.

If you can pick up a guy like him for the MLE, why not? Perfect role player to replace Dunleavy with. It's a move that can't really hurt you. If you're looking for game changers though, you're probably going to have to hope they grow from what's on the team already (ie Mirotic, McDermott, and Snell). We're not signing or trading for any stars.

 

[nbafan23]

This team still has the pieces to win a title but I think they just need a new offensive system that will allow certain players to expand their games some more. Maybe a new voice can inspire that team if the new voice is worthy enough to do so. Don't know if a college coach in Hoiberg is that.

 

[Thunderfoot]

We'd better find someone who can guard and score on Lebron...Jimmy Buckets isn't big enough. Until we do that, we won't win anything as long as Lebron is in the league.

 

[RoseMVP1]

We'd better find someone who can guard and score on Lebron...Jimmy Buckets isn't big enough. Until we do that, we won't win anything as long as Lebron is in the league.

You do realize Jimmy held him to 39% shooting and he himself averaged over 20 a game while shooting a higher FG percentage...best defense I've seen someone play on lebron in a post season series, even better in my opinion than Kawhi in last years finals.

 

[nbafan23]

You do realize Jimmy held him to 39% shooting and he himself averaged over 20 a game while shooting a higher FG percentage...best defense I've seen someone play on lebron in a post season series, even better in my opinion than Kawhi in last years finals.

I think the combination of Snell and Butler will be a good duo to throw at LeBron defensively.

 

[Thunderfoot]

You do realize Jimmy held him to 39% shooting and he himself averaged over 20 a game while shooting a higher FG percentage...best defense I've seen someone play on lebron in a post season series, even better in my opinion than Kawhi in last years finals.

You're right about that...let me clarify a bit...Someone who can keep Lebron from getting to the basket. If you've noticed the way Cleveland guarded Korver before he got hurt, his man didn't care about the play going on against the rest of his team, he face guarded Korver where ever he went. Stayed close enough, that his teammates didn't even try to pass him the ball. That's how you beat the Cavs too. We need to face guard the shooters and make Lebron beat us with outside shots. So we need a player as big as Lebron, who can move as well as Jimmy or Kawahi can, to keep him outside the paint...so even if Lebron backs him down into the low post, shooting over him becomes a problem. If he has no one open to pass off to, now he has to work twice as hard to score.


Does this player even exist?

 

[Scoot26]

You're right about that...let me clarify a bit...Someone who can keep Lebron from getting to the basket. If you've noticed the way Cleveland guarded Korver before he got hurt, his man didn't care about the play going on against the rest of his team, he face guarded Korver where ever he went. Stayed close enough, that his teammates didn't even try to pass him the ball. That's how you beat the Cavs too. We need to face guard the shooters and make Lebron beat us with outside shots. So we need a player as big as Lebron, who can move as well as Jimmy or Kawahi can, to keep him outside the paint...so even if Lebron backs him down into the low post, shooting over him becomes a problem. If he has no one open to pass off to, now he has to work twice as hard to score.


Does this player even exist?

Yeah, that player is LeBron James.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Yeah, that player is LeBron James.

Only Lebron could guard Lebron

 

[Thunderfoot]

Only Lebron could guard Lebron

Well, then we don't win a thing until he's out of the league. That's how you beat the Cavs though...take away his options.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Well, then we don't win a thing until he's out of the league.

We could've beat him this year if our offense didn't lay an egg

 

[Scoot26]

Well, then we don't win a thing until he's out of the league. That's how you beat the Cavs though...take away his options.

Pretty much my stance.

Though I agree with Clone, if the Bulls offense stopped dying, they'd beat the Cavs.

 

[Thunderfoot]

We could've beat him this year if our offense didn't lay an egg

I'm not so sure now...They took away our options. The way the bigs are allowed to jump up with arms straight up against anyone driving to the hoop these days killed any chance of Rose driving to the hoop. They blocked his shots easy, and the contact didn't matter anymore, like it did in the Jordan years, and they never left our shooters to help.

 

[Scoot26]

I'm not so sure now...They took away our options. The way the bigs are allowed to jump up with arms straight up against anyone driving to the hoop these days killed any chance of Rose driving to the hoop. They blocked his shots easy, and the contact didn't matter anymore, like it did in the Jordan years, and they never left our shooters to help.

Nah, while I give credit to Cleveland for that... A lot of the Bulls offensive droughts were their own doing. Get into their sets entirely too late, too much Joakim Noah involved in the plays.. basically the offensive play sets by Thibs were god awful. When the Bulls just ran regular pick and roll or pick and pop / drive and kick they succeeded wildly.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Nah, while I give credit to Cleveland for that... A lot of the Bulls offensive droughts were their own doing. Get into their sets entirely too late, too much Joakim Noah involved in the plays.. basically the offensive play sets by Thibs were god awful. When the Bulls just ran regular pick and roll or pick and pop / drive and kick they succeeded wildly.

Pick and pop with Pau worked basically every time.

 

[nbafan23]

Nah, while I give credit to Cleveland for that... A lot of the Bulls offensive droughts were their own doing. Get into their sets entirely too late, too much Joakim Noah involved in the plays.. basically the offensive play sets by Thibs were god awful. When the Bulls just ran regular pick and roll or pick and pop / drive and kick they succeeded wildly.

That should have been their bread and butter offense imo all season.

 

[Thunderfoot]

Nah, while I give credit to Cleveland for that... A lot of the Bulls offensive droughts were their own doing. Get into their sets entirely too late, too much Joakim Noah involved in the plays.. basically the offensive play sets by Thibs were god awful. When the Bulls just ran regular pick and roll or pick and pop / drive and kick they succeeded wildly.

Well, I think it comes down to the team we have, isn't emotionally mature enough to win. Noah and Gibson, among others, totally fall apart when things get tough. Cleveland knows that and planned accordingly.

 

[Chicago4Life]

unless snell has big transformation this offseason I dont see him being anything more than a reserve and spot up shooter he is not starter material...He does not seem to have that aggressiveness in his game and does not look to attack. The other problem that needs to be addressed is noah as a starter...while his defense is great to have his inability to score on offense is a real problem...he has no jumper, cannot roll to the basket on simple layups and basically causes the offense to play 4on5 when the offense is not great to begin with...Gibson is another problem, he cannot stay healthy, has a terrible habit of keeping the ball low to the ground allowing defenders to swipe at it. Someone had mentioned a gibson for terrence ross trade, that would be great for the bulls. Get ross from the raptors, go after monroe and now you have a much improved roster...Rose, Butler, Ross, Gasol and Monroe as your starting five...gasol in the pick and pop, monroe in the post...Noah and Mirotic off the bench with mcdermott, snell and a new pg...