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Who is hating on Robbie?
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That is very much a possibility. When I saw those short kick-offs I worried that he had a hammy problem. Then he boomed those field goals. It must have been planned that way regarding those kick-offs.
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I don't know that there is any hate out there with any larger or relevant contingent of Bears fans or press. I think some of the aura of "hate" comes from Brandon Marshall saying something to the affect of "you're just a kicker" to Gould last year. Then there were football ignorant fans that bought into the crazy-diva's point of view when, in fact, he was voted a captain an union-rep for the team.
I also think a lot of fans just don't like kickers because a missed game winning field goal seems to hurt a lot more than a game winning field goal makes one feel good. A team fights for almost 4 quarters and it comes down to a place kicker. That bothers some people. If Gould would have missed there would be mouth-breathing, ignorant, haters, claiming Gould needed cut today.
I also think a lot of fans just don't like kickers because a missed game winning field goal seems to hurt a lot more than a game winning field goal makes one feel good. A team fights for almost 4 quarters and it comes down to a place kicker. That bothers some people. If Gould would have missed there would be mouth-breathing, ignorant, haters, claiming Gould needed cut today.
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Until a team has a shitty kicker, its fans will not appreciate what it means to have a good one.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Last few years he's been kicking them deeper with ease. Coverage has been a problem so this makes perfect sense.
He can.
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That's only because Marshall is a narcissistic, team chemistry-killing headcase. I'll take Robbie Gould on my football team over Brandon Marshall every day.
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If you could kick it out of the back of the endzone why on earth would you kick it high and short. That makes no sense. Give them the ball at the 20 or kick it high and short and give them much better field position and a chance to return.
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He can kick it into the end zone and sometimes through the back of it, depending on the wind. Kicks into the end zone have been returned a lot this year and our coverage has been an issue. I can definitely understand the logic in getting more hang time on a kickoff when you have real coverage problems, unless the wind is at your back and you KNOW you can kick it through the back.
I think that's more likely than the idea that he just lost ten yards off his leg overnight, especially when his FGs are still going through from 54 with enough spare room that they'd have made it from 60+.
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There is a lot to the concept of kickoffs you know. You don't have any kicker who can universally hit every kick out of the endzone, that would become a reason to get some placement of kickoff changes moved back again if that became the case.
The simplest other element is if you kick it low and hard and they return it.. they have more time to get upfield before your defenders are there and get good returns. So higher kicks will get your guys down there by the time they catch it.. Oh plus you know, you can get guys tackled before the 20? Making it harder for them as well.
That's the same reason you want a punter with higher hangtime opposed to just punting it 70 yards back, well good for you, now you get a better return opportunity for the other team. That's gonna happen on kickoffs because nobody is going to universally kick it out. You adjust based on what direction the wind is or what the team's style is.
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That's the whole point though. The guy has incredible distance on his field goals even INTO the wind. You think he would EASILY be able to boot it out of the back of the endzone.
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Yes I know all of this, the concept of hang time is not complicated at all.
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who hates robbie gould?
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I'd like to see O'Donnell try a few kickoffs when he gets back.
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I wouldn't. It's not really their designated skillset to the tee and there's reasons why you don't have many punters being Kick off kickers even when a teams kicker is weak.
Well you can say that, but also say it doesn't make sense when that is the reason for what you say makes no sense. So it kinda reflects some lack of believe in your claim.
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I remember The Score 670 and callers getting on him pretty hard for this quote “I’m playing to feed my family,” when he was going after the new contract 2013
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3rd highest paid kicker in the league. ***** better be good hogging up that cap.
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Gould has a lot of years booting it out the endzone. Bet you anything the short kicks were a coaching decision. I mean, last game after 3 short kicks or whatever that didn't help, all the sudden all the kicks were deep in the endzone. I don't think that was an accident.
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Watching him interview Lance Briggs a few years back was hilarious. Yeah, his comment about feeding his family was pretty inane. He deserved to be ripped for that - just as any NFL player that cries to the media about their contract does.
Two words - Chris Boniol. Robbie is as solid as they come.
Two words - Chris Boniol. Robbie is as solid as they come.
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Jags sure wish they had our Robbie yesterday.
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Because he was being a dick, even beyond the comment. So what, he's become more rational and it was years ago. No reason to hold it over him now.
The short kicks were definitely a coaching decision and obviously because we're giving over 100 yards in returns every week until yesterday. We're still worst in the league in return yards by over 7 yards per kick. I guess Sunday's average of the 35 yard line is better than what we've been doing.
I'm with Jester here. Hang time on a punt doesn't increase the average starting field position. Kicking it to the 20 does as does picking a short side and it bouncing sideways which is not uncommon. If your ST coach can't get his guys in the right lane, get one that can. Throwing up the white flag was relatively successful at us not getting pantsed on Sunday but it's not a long term solution.
