Which QBs played against the most difficult pass Ds

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Foles does not fit the offense we run now.

If we go back to nagy 202 it will look the same. It's not just the qb, the offensive unit as a whole does not fit the scheme he wants to run. We drafted and signed a bunch of dudes who want to play smashmouth football, yet are trying to replicate finesse spread shit just because our HC has a hardon for it.


Again you are always pushing this and you are just wrong

Foles can play in a run heavy offense the problem we had with Foles at QB was that he we couldnt run the ball at all and he was forced to throw 40 times game behind a struggling Oline .

The Oline is playing better and Monty is running with purpose and he can certainly do what we saw against GB the difference is that who can still make the reads and the throws once he gets into the redzone
 

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How can Daniel Jones and Carson Wentz have the hardest strength of schedules when they faced NFC East rivals twice this season and that whole division is garbage? Granted, WFT has a good defense.
 

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I mean I think most of the realists here have been saying that.. good to see it on 'paper'
Yeah, Rodgers stat padding on bottom feeders
 

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Foles should pull off another miracle, get us a SuperBowl and then we can trade him for a 1st rounder.....
 

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How can Daniel Jones and Carson Wentz have the hardest strength of schedules when they faced NFC East rivals twice this season and that whole division is garbage? Granted, WFT has a good defense.
Jones
Steelers
49ers when they were healthy
Rams
Bucs
Seahawks
Cardinals
Browns
Ravens

Wentz
Rams
49ers
Steelers
Ravens
Browns
Seahawks
Packers then he was benched
 

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Seems like you're rarely posting about Pagano anymore too. There's a 200+ reply thread on Pagano that you wouldn't reply to and as soon as I made a thread relating to Mitch you came running.
And with this post he has exited the thread lmao. @msadows is literally wrong about everything and needs to stfu
 

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Tua’s up there. Trade the farm Pace!!

If they somehow do draft fields/wilson, I would 100% be for trading for tua.

One can only wish.

I don't think he's played great this year, but his upside is a lot higher than anything else out there.
 

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Again you are always pushing this and you are just wrong

Foles can play in a run heavy offense the problem we had with Foles at QB was that he we couldnt run the ball at all and he was forced to throw 40 times game behind a struggling Oline .

The Oline is playing better and Monty is running with purpose and he can certainly do what we saw against GB the difference is that who can still make the reads and the throws once he gets into the redzone

You can think what you want, but I saw foles play, and he makes me never want to see him play another snap.
 

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Seems like you're rarely posting about Pagano anymore too. There's a 200+ reply thread on Pagano that you wouldn't reply to and as soon as I made a thread relating to Mitch you came running.

I stand by everything I mentioned about pagano in the OP. It's just pointless for me to fight a war against an entire army. I don't have the time or effort for it.

I still think the issue overall is talent. Is pagano great? Nah. Do I think any other DC will make a difference the way these guys are playing? Nah.

I was a pace guy, but the way this defense full of loaded contracts has played this past year has made me reconsider it. Eddie, Hicks, Quinn, Danny, shit, even mack, are all disappointing as fuck.

sure, Pagano isn't doing a great job, but it all stems from the talent when you fail like this defense has.
 

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Foles also has playoff experience Mitch based off his body language against GB looked like he was shitting his pants.
He had a look of horror on his face at times.
 

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Who cares.

I'll be so happy when we won't have to talk about mitch every other post on here after this offseason. Fucking shit is tiring and pointless. We all know he sucks.

Granted, It will just transition to the same guys shitting on the next QB we have start for the beloved from day one. Then say I told you so when he ultimately fails, because...newsflash, every chicago qb fails.

You obviously do because when people told you the difference between Foles and 4M's play was competition, you ignored it for weeks. So this is just you reflexively being defensive now that the data is clear on this fact.
 

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I go on the lim here. Start Foles, if after first half things are looking bad put Trubisky in there. The Bears don't have much chance to compete, lets start with this. This will be final evaluation of both behind the same offensive line, against the same defense.
 

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I go on the lim here. Start Foles, if after first half things are looking bad put Trubisky in there. The Bears don't have much chance to compete, lets start with this. This will be final evaluation of both behind the same offensive line, against the same defense.
No evaluation needed. Foles is under contract next year and Mitch can enjoy being signed as a clipboard holder in free agency somewhere.
 

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That graph just shows how awesomely dominantly Mitch single handedly fucks up defensive rating for their entire year.
 

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They have, but those guys don't fit the scheme nagy wants to run. Bars, Whitehair, Mustipher are the guys playing well and they aren't exactly finesse guards.

We've seen foles in nagy's offense. He was horrible. Leave it at that.

Mitch is bad, foles is worse. Neither of them will make a difference this week, it's the defense that has to step it up.

Pretty sure his point was if Mitch shits the bed, you might as well go to Foles. He would have to shit the whole bed though.
 

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I'll be so happy when we won't have to talk about mitch every other post on here after this offseason. Fucking shit is tiring and pointless. We all know he sucks.

Just like Grossman/Orton/Cutler.

The nightmare will never end. It'll just shift to a new name.
 

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Jones
Steelers
49ers when they were healthy
Rams
Bucs
Seahawks - garbage defense
Cardinals - middling defense
Browns - bottom 1/2 of the league defense in PPG - middling in yards
Ravens

Wentz
Rams
49ers
Steelers
Ravens
Browns - bottom 1/2 of the league defense in PPG - middling in yards
Seahawks - garbage defense
Packers then he was benched
 

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You obviously do because when people told you the difference between Foles and 4M's play was competition, you ignored it for weeks. So this is just you reflexively being defensive now that the data is clear on this fact.

No, thats not the difference.

One of them is incapable of playing against a pass rush and is slow as mollases.

I don't need stats. I've played football, I can use my eyes to analyze. Both QB's are shit, Foles was the worst bears QB ive seen since quinn.

Sure, mitch played bad D's, but Foles has played some poor defenses too and didn't impress during those either.

He's been in the league for nearly a decade. We know what he is, and he's bad.

There is no excuses to be made for either guy. There is zero reason to want foles to appear in another bears game other than being a shit fan and wanting to tank(Which you are, fyi).
 

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