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You tech nitwits will appreciate this:

My granddaughter is 6 and brilliant. She was accepted into the Northwestern accelerated program for kids at 4, fluent in Spanish, founding member of the Naperville Toastmasters club for kids, and recently was accepted into a programming class for 12 year old at 6. My daughter has her in some extracurricular activity 7 days a week which I think is too much

Lets just hope when she is 16 that she doesnt come home and say she is marrying timmy

We all know how you devalue the people who made the software you sold. It's searchable. But props to you for showing a skoche of humanity for appreciating your granddaughter's accomplishments.
 

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We all know how you devalue the people who made the software you sold. It's searchable. But props to you for showing a skoche of humanity for appreciating your granddaughter's accomplishments.
I adore my granddaughter and brag on her every chance I get.

She looks like Shirley Temple and controls every room she enters. Kids 4-5 years older gravitate to her and she ends up the leader in everything. My daughter has dedicated her life to accelerate this kid. Because she is willing to do that, I fund all these activities.

If this werent such a fucked up world I would post a video of her teaching her dolls in Spanish when she was 4 years old
 

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I adore my granddaughter and brag on her every chance I get.

She looks like Shirley Temple and controls every room she enters. Kids 4-5 years older gravitate to her and she ends up the leader in everything. My daughter has dedicated her life to accelerate this kid. Because she is willing to do that, I fund all these activities.

If this werent such a fucked up world I would post a video of her teaching her dolls in Spanish when she was 4 years old

Glad to hear you are somewhat human after all.


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oh, **** off

I will as soon as you explain how mueller is a conflicted liberal. And sorry, @nvanprooyen, for polluting your thread


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All you coders are going to be replaced in the future by Vietnamese or robots or puppets.

Selling is the only answer.
 

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All you coders are going to be replaced in the future by Vietnamese or robots or puppets.

Selling is the only answer.

Don't care what your job is, you're always a salesman.
 

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People ask me all the time where they should direct their kids and I say:

-Security
-Artificial intelligence
-Big Data

Outside of sales, the tech side of these disciplines are the best way to make a very good living

Do you understand how the tech works or did you just sell?
 

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All you coders are going to be replaced in the future by Vietnamese or robots or puppets.

Selling is the only answer.

I found you.

[video=youtube_share;LXmShIyjJvg]https://youtu.be/LXmShIyjJvg[/video]
 

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Do you understand how the tech works or did you just sell?
The tech field (sales or IT) is a full time job and more. It's virtually impossible to be a top salesperson and technologist at the same time. Just not enough hours in the day. Top technologist often dont do well in sales.

My strategy is to understand the functional value of a technology and what it can do for a customer. I don't understand the bits and bites and leave that to the technical people on my team. It's just as well as my customer's top technical people will never truly respect a sales person. So I let the bitheads battle it out
 

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Over the years I've purchased a lot of electronic test equipment from HP, Tektronix and a dozen other companies. They all have the same technique, a 2 man sales team consisting of one engineer that really knows his shit and an empty suit, a salesman that doesn't know shit, he is there to pay for lunch and be quiet while the smart people talk.

I'm sure it's different in software.
 

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Over the years I've purchased a lot of electronic test equipment from HP, Tektronix and a dozen other companies. They all have the same technique, a 2 man sales team consisting of one engineer that really knows his shit and an empty suit, a salesman that doesn't know shit, he is there to pay for lunch and be quiet while the smart people talk.

I'm sure it's different in software.
Lol.

Side note, it is crazy how expensive test equipment is. I worked with a lot of it when I was in the Air Force. Maybe the prices have come down now, but some of the equipment we had was extremely expensive.
 

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Lol.

Side note, it is crazy how expensive test equipment is. I worked with a lot of it when I was in the Air Force. Maybe the prices have come down now, but some of the equipment we had was extremely expensive.

Back in the 80's I worked at Northrup designing and debugging test equipment to sell to the AF. It was top secret back then I'm sure it is declassified now, ECM for the F-15.
 

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Back in the 80's I worked at Northrup designing and debugging test equipment to sell to the AF. It was top secret back then I'm sure it is declassified now, ECM for the F-15.
Awesome. I was an EW, but I worked on the reconnaissance end of things. So the part that involved collecting the signals to build the packages used for different threats. Specifically, I tested / fixed these systems in a back shop. My job is handled by contractors now, mostly Raytheon. This was like 20 yrs ago.
 
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The tech field (sales or IT) is a full time job and more. It's virtually impossible to be a top salesperson and technologist at the same time. Just not enough hours in the day. Top technologist often dont do well in sales.

My strategy is to understand the functional value of a technology and what it can do for a customer. I don't understand the bits and bites and leave that to the technical people on my team. It's just as well as my customer's top technical people will never truly respect a sales person. So I let the bitheads battle it out

People don't respect salesmen/women because they are morons who don't know more than the bare minimum of what they're selling.

They usually sell anything the client asks for and just passes on the burden of figuring out how to implement the package that was sold to the tech people who actually do the work.

If you know how to talk, and can understand the bare basics of a technology, you can sell it.

If you know how to talk, and understand the real value and features of a technology, you can sell it correctly so the implementation goes well, the operational overhead isn't horrendous, and the client winds up way happier and willing to buy more stuff.

I am not passing judgement on you Ommy, you might have known plenty to sell your stuff properly, but in software sales the sales people are generally ignorant of the business and product to a pretty sad level.
 

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People don't respect salesmen/women because they are morons who don't know more than the bare minimum of what they're selling.

They usually sell anything the client asks for and just passes on the burden of figuring out how to implement the package that was sold to the tech people who actually do the work.

If you know how to talk, and can understand the bare basics of a technology, you can sell it.

If you know how to talk, and understand the real value and features of a technology, you can sell it correctly so the implementation goes well, the operational overhead isn't horrendous, and the client winds up way happier and willing to buy more stuff.

I am not passing judgement on you Ommy, you might have known plenty to sell your stuff properly, but in software sales the sales people are generally ignorant of the business and product to a pretty sad level.

they usually promise the wrong things and don't promise the right things
 

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People don't respect salesmen/women because they are morons who don't know more than the bare minimum of what they're selling.

They usually sell anything the client asks for and just passes on the burden of figuring out how to implement the package that was sold to the tech people who actually do the work.

If you know how to talk, and can understand the bare basics of a technology, you can sell it.

If you know how to talk, and understand the real value and features of a technology, you can sell it correctly so the implementation goes well, the operational overhead isn't horrendous, and the client winds up way happier and willing to buy more stuff.

I am not passing judgement on you Ommy, you might have known plenty to sell your stuff properly, but in software sales the sales people are generally ignorant of the business and product to a pretty sad level.
Dude. You fucking nailed it. So many sales people promise the world with zero understanding of the realities of implementation. And someone infinitely more capable is left holding the bag to deliver. It happens constantly in my experience.
 

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I blame sales-folks for the current state of what is essentially water-gile implementation
 

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