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Bass and Shea would be a nice look as a 3 - 4 LB
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Chris routinely judges players by big plays and stats and will repeat that as a conclusive statement about a player.
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Maybe you need to watch the tape Clyde... because at this point I could rattle off about 20 guys I wanted or backed that went against popular opinion that people said were undersized or too small(tyrann Mathieu) or overweight(alshon Jeffery) or too slow and trouble makers (burfict) lacking experience (Kyle Long)
Before the season even started i rattled off like 20 names of guys who would be considered first round picks and players that I wanted...
Hageman, Gilbert, Murphy are all first round guys that I said would be there before the season started because I actually watched tape on them last year... and even made a post about them in august along with a bunch of other players...
Aaron Donald is fools Gold in my eyes...
There's talk of Hageman, of Nix of Tuitt, of McCuller's of Donald of Sutton and of course of cutting Peppers.
My question to all of you 3-4/hybrid 4-3 defensive guys is simple, WHO IN THE **** IS GOING TO RUSH THE PASSER? If one of the above players are drafted?
Hageman during the Senior Bowl and during the season would make 1 incredible play and then disappear. In the Senior Bowl he has gone from being unblockable to being dominated by Tyler Larsen.
To inconsistent and too much risk at 14
I do not believe in Aaron Donald and this is why...
Aaron Donald is showing elite potential at Senior Bowl practice?! I still don't know that doing it in the senior bowl practices makes you a sure thing as a NFL player... Comparisons to Geno Atkins... LOL... this guy has done well in college but now we are comparing him to the best DT in the game from 2 years ago? dear lord people get a grip on reality...
This guy had 11 sacks... against who? Florida State 1, Duke 1, Virginia 2, Virginia Tech 2, Old Dominion, New Mexico 2, Navy, Georgia Tech 1, Notre Dame, North Carolina 1, Syracuse, Miami, Bowling Green State 1,
I find it funny how one of the only talented guards in the draft was on Notre Dame and Donald didn't even register a tackle in that game...
This is a soft schedule with some really inflated stats... this reminds me of Teddy Bridgewaters schedule? Other than Florida State who on Aaron Donalds schedule was any good? Duke? Miami sucked... Bowling green? Navy?
80% of those teams wont have a guy drafted in the NFL...
Michael Bennett doesn't fit the profile of a LEO or Elephant linebacker he more or less fits the Israel Idonije role of a pass rusher.
But the two main responses I get in this thread and the way they lay out the roster the Bears are going to stick with a 4-3 scheme rather than anything that resembles 3-4 or some sort of hybrid 3-4 that requires a linebacker to come in and be the primary pass rusher.
What's readily apparent is the way free agency is set up, it's set up best for the Bears to stick with a 4-3 defense and to take their shot at bringing in 4-3 base defensive ends like Greg Hardy, Michael Johnson, or Michael Bennett.
The idea that the Bears can switch to a 3-4 doesn't make sense based on the needs of the defense to run it, the personnel on hand and the free agents and draft picks the Bears would be better off signing.
The best players to target in the draft the way the draft is set up is to grab players that fit into a 4-3 scheme...PERIOD. It's where the depth of the draft lines up, and it's the smartest way to go for the benefit of the franchise.
The Seahawks weren't competitive immediately under Pete Carroll that had to build the personnel up to get the high level of defensive play they wanted. They didn't land Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas in the same draft. They've had to build their team over a couple of years and the Bears are likely going to have to do the same. They can draft Louis Nix, and sign Brian Orakpo, but they're still going to need another starting CB who can excel in press coverage, they're going to need that center fielder at the safety position, they'll still need to find a legit 5-technique DE.
The smarter plan would be to sign one of the best 4-3 DEs, bring back a guy like Wootton, continue to develop guys like Washington and Bass or draft a developmental DE like Kareem Martin. Stack a solid DT rotation by re-signing Collins and Melton and adding to it with a guy like Donald or Sutton or DaQuan Jones. There are depth at certain key positions in free agency and the draft that best work out to the Bears' advantage, none of which include struggling to find the personnel to run a 3-4 defense.
@ windy and Fatbeard
The guys with the most to prove are the ones that seem to be performing the best, Tyler Larsen Zach Martin Aaron Donald...
Other than hometown Jimmy and David Carr both QBs there really aren't guys who can make or break themselves at the senior bowl other than those 3 players...
They have the most to prove so they are going to be giving it their all in order to raise their stock....
Hageman Nix Jernigan, their draft stock is unlikely to change significantly regardless of there performance at a senior bowl practice... the only way their stock changes is if they get injured... which they most likely are protecting themselves from....
you guys can choose to believe what you want... I'll choose reality...
Reality is Nix and Jernigan are juniors and not at the senior bowl.....so yearh.
I thought Tuitt is a DE? I've heard him being talked about as a DT ?
My obvious answer would be a DE f/a. Getting Wooten back at DE will help in the rotation, but he isn't getting more pressure than ole Peppers. I would love a good sized pass rusher in the draft, not an undersized "bonecrusher".
@ windy and Fatbeard
The guys with the most to prove are the ones that seem to be performing the best, Tyler Larsen Zach Martin Aaron Donald...
Other than hometown Jimmy and David Carr both QBs there really aren't guys who can make or break themselves at the senior bowl other than those 3 players...
They have the most to prove so they are going to be giving it their all in order to raise their stock....
Hageman Nix Jernigan, their draft stock is unlikely to change significantly regardless of there performance at a senior bowl practice... the only way their stock changes is if they get injured... which they most likely are protecting themselves from....
you guys can choose to believe what you want... I'll choose reality...
Someone who actually fits into the scheme as a rusher. You don't simply take 260 pound defensive ends and say you're linebackers now. There's not a single starting 3-4 linebacker on the roster.