Who Will Be The 2011 FirstBaseman?

Who Will Be The 2011 FirstBaseman?

  • A Resigned DLee

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • ARAM

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Colvin

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 8 61.5%

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Captain Obvious

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dunns defense is yucky

Merely slightly below average... that's in his first full season as a 1B. I think he can improve.

I picked Lee because I dont see Dunn as an option. I highly doubt he would sign here, but thats just a feeling I had. I would still take Lee over Pena, yes

You mean, you don't think Dunn would want to come to the team he begged to sign him 2 years ago? Makes sense.
Pena is a strikeout machine and he always has a low batting average despite the power. Rather have Dunn or Huff

So? A K is the same as a pop out or a fly out. Low Batting average doesn't mean shit. Especially to a guy who walks 15% of the time.

I don't know who it would be, or who I would like to see. Dunn is an option but I really don't see him coming here, or the Cubs wanting to spend that much money. Colvin is an option since he has played the position before. I don't see Lee coming back, even as much as he would probably like to stay in Chicago. Considering they tried to trade him and he rejected the trade it's not much of a possibility. First base may be a hole again, much like it was when Grace left. Just a revolving door trying to find that right fit.

The wouldn't want to spend the money? The Ricketts were just embarrassed this year, their first as owners. They are going to want to do something to win back over the fan base.

still think he is a DH. yanks,redsox,whitesox would be his best spot. but he wants to get paid. arbritration would give him 18 mil, im not sure the cubs would want to spend 15 mil on a guy that really cant field.there is money that needs to be spent in other areas. hence an overhaul of the BP. and you have to look at the rotation. demp,z,wells,silva,farmhand in the rotation....are you ok with that? if they move Z in the offseason than they really need pitching.

Can't really field? He's an average fielder at 1B. He will more than make up the difference between he and Lee's defense with his bat.

There is no way that Z and Silva are both here next year. And might I say... Tom Slothalanny? We really don't need pitching. Pitching is not our problem this year, it's our abysmal offense.
 

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fair enough. just out of sheer curiosity, how come lee over pena? i mean lee definitely has the better glove, but pena has solid defense and a little bit better of a bat.
Lee has been a consistent hitter throughout his career....his defense helps alot with alot of young guys on the team. We will need some experience if we have more kids from the farm up on the team next year.
i honestly see DLEE coming back. call it a hunch
yes, me too

Only way he comes back is on a 1 year deal IMO
Which i would be fine with
 

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I have to agree with tbo, I would rather have Lee than Pena or Dunn. But, I don't see that happening.
 

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The solution to all of this is to go very hard after Jacoby Ellsbury from the Red Sox. He is due for a raise and could be to costly for even the Red Sox. They love taking on young talent which the Cubs have some of. A move like this would solve the lead off problem, move Byrd to RF and Colvin to 1B. The bigger question would be the batting order that wouldnt have the big bopper in the middle of the order but would have a nice mix of LH and RH hitter along with a good mix of veterans and young talent.

Ellsbury CF
Castro SS
Aramis 3B
Byrd RF
Colvin 1B
Soriano LF
Soto C
Dewitt 2B
 

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I have to agree with tbo, I would rather have Lee than Pena or Dunn. But, I don't see that happening.

That is craztalk right there. Where you going to hit Lee after the "monster" year he has had this year? It's time to solve the problem with the offense with a true lead off guy that would make the lineup deeper. Can't believe any Cub fan would want Lee back just for his glove but would be the first person to cry bloody murder when he hits into another double play.
 
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The solution to all of this is to go very hard after Jacoby Ellsbury from the Red Sox. He is due for a raise and could be to costly for even the Red Sox. They love taking on young talent which the Cubs have some of. A move like this would solve the lead off problem, move Byrd to RF and Colvin to 1B. The bigger question would be the batting order that wouldnt have the big bopper in the middle of the order but would have a nice mix of LH and RH hitter along with a good mix of veterans and young talent.

Ellsbury CF
Castro SS
Aramis 3B
Byrd RF
Colvin 1B
Soriano LF
Soto C
Dewitt 2B

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and... NO!

This is absolutely Special person. Jacoby Ellsbury is an average player at best. He is the definition of mediocre. I'll pass.
 

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Jacoby will cost a good spect like Jackson, I would think.
 

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Jacoby Ellsbury Stats, News, Photos - Boston Red Sox - ESPN

Doesn't seem mediocre to me? I can't believe people blame a player for getting hurt for diving for a ball, it happens for christ sake.

Just who out there can bat lead off, play either CF, RF or 2B which could be hole to fill in 2011 depending if Byrd is pushed to RF by a CF that can lead off? Denard Spahn would cost a hell of a lot more that Ellsbury. I would rather have a semi proven player like Ellsbury than the unknown like Jackson. Jacoby can even steal bases, what an idea.
 

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Jacoby Ellsbury Stats, News, Photos - Boston Red Sox - ESPN

Doesn't seem mediocre to me? I can't believe people blame a player for getting hurt for diving for a ball, it happens for christ sake.

Just who out there can bat lead off, play either CF, RF or 2B which could be hole to fill in 2011 depending if Byrd is pushed to RF by a CF that can lead off? Denard Spahn would cost a hell of a lot more that Ellsbury. I would rather have a semi proven player like Ellsbury than the unknown like Jackson. Jacoby can even steal bases, what an idea.

His career OPS is .757. That's average.

Ellsbury can't play 2B?...

Jackson has got the potential to be a Jim Edmonds 2.0. You don't just trade away prospects for an average player, who will be making way too much.

Stolen bases? Give me a fucking break. That is the dumbest stat out there. I don't give a flying **** how many bases he can steal. You need to look at more than just the stolen bases. You need to look at his CS% and his CS. It turns out that yes, Ellsbury can be worth about a win to a win and a half with his legs, but don't just tell me he can steal bases. Hell, Nyjer Morgan can steal bases. He only steals at 67% though, which means he is costing his team runs.
 

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Why does Byrd, the top UZR rated CF in baseball this season get moved to RF for Ellsbury who was moved to left because he couldn't play center?

Edit: ellsbury was rated worse in CF last season than Fukudome. No thanks.
 

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His career OPS is .757. That's average.

Ellsbury can't play 2B?...

Jackson has got the potential to be a Jim Edmonds 2.0. You don't just trade away prospects for an average player, who will be making way too much.

Stolen bases? Give me a fucking break. That is the dumbest stat out there. I don't give a flying **** how many bases he can steal. You need to look at more than just the stolen bases. You need to look at his CS% and his CS. It turns out that yes, Ellsbury can be worth about a win to a win and a half with his legs, but don't just tell me he can steal bases. Hell, Nyjer Morgan can steal bases. He only steals at 67% though, which means he is costing his team runs.

Man you got a potty mouth. Not smart enough to get your point across without sweraing?! Stolen bases are something that is missing from the Cubs, and don't say it isn't. What do you mean Ellsbury can't play 2B, he is a CF? How long is it going to take Jackson to develop into Jim Edmonds because I'm running out of time here to see the Cubs in a WS? I don't like stats, sure they are a part of the game but they don't tell you the whole truth about a player. I would rather have a player steal 67% of the time than a runner that can't steal a base when needed. I can see we will just have to agree to disagree.
 

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Man you got a potty mouth. Not smart enough to get your point across without sweraing?! Stolen bases are something that is missing from the Cubs, and don't say it isn't. What do you mean Ellsbury can't play 2B, he is a CF? How long is it going to take Jackson to develop into Jim Edmonds because I'm running out of time here to see the Cubs in a WS? I don't like stats, sure they are a part of the game but they don't tell you the whole truth about a player. I would rather have a player steal 67% of the time than a runner that can't steal a base when needed. I can see we will just have to agree to disagree.

Ellsbury cannot play CF.

I actually agree with you though on the speed part. I don't particularly care either way about SB, but the Cubs need to improve the overall team speed. That was part of the idea behind signing Soriano, but his quad tore in 2007 and his speed went away.

We have Castro, who is really fast, so that is a start. Reports say Hak-Ju Lee is one of the fastest baseball players on the planet. He isn't that close to the big leagues though.

Colvin has a little speed, though I think he just looks faster to me because I'm not used to fast Cubs' players. Same thing can be said for Byrd.
 

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Why does Byrd, the top UZR rated CF in baseball this season get moved to RF for Ellsbury who was moved to left because he couldn't play center?

Edit: ellsbury was rated worse in CF last season than Fukudome. No thanks.

UZR is flukey though, so I don't think Byrd is as good as his UZR says. That being said, I completely agree, we shouldn't move Byrd to a different position.

Man you got a potty mouth. Not smart enough to get your point across without sweraing?! Stolen bases are something that is missing from the Cubs, and don't say it isn't. What do you mean Ellsbury can't play 2B, he is a CF? How long is it going to take Jackson to develop into Jim Edmonds because I'm running out of time here to see the Cubs in a WS? I don't like stats, sure they are a part of the game but they don't tell you the whole truth about a player. I would rather have a player steal 67% of the time than a runner that can't steal a base when needed. I can see we will just have to agree to disagree.

Why do we need stolen bases so bad? We need better hitting with RISP, not SBs.

You are running out of time? You are about to die?

They don't tell you the whole truth about a player? What don't they tell you? That your sucky OFer made a diving catch to win the game that an average OFer could have easily had? I'll go with stats over the human eye any day. The human eye is very deceiving.

What is with the fascination of SBs? Sure they get you an extra base... they can also get you an extra out. A guy is on 1st with one out and steals 2nd. Then the next guy walks. It didn't do any good. Stolen Bases are risking an out when generally you don't need to.
Ellsbury cannot play CF.

I actually agree with you though on the speed part. I don't particularly care either way about SB, but the Cubs need to improve the overall team speed. That was part of the idea behind signing Soriano, but his quad tore in 2007 and his speed went away.

We have Castro, who is really fast, so that is a start. Reports say Hak-Ju Lee is one of the fastest baseball players on the planet. He isn't that close to the big leagues though.

Colvin has a little speed, though I think he just looks faster to me because I'm not used to fast Cubs' players. Same thing can be said for Byrd.
 

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I would take Jacoby for like Nate Sampson and Mitch Atkins, but that's it. I'm not a big fan of him.

I know it's not bad for diving for a ball and getting injured but it happens all the time. His bones are fragile.
 

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Ellsbury also has little power, doesn't walk, and he's not a good leadoff hitter.
 

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I would like Josh Vitters to be called up but that's not happening. It's sad D. Lee isn't performing this year, he'd be more likely to be resigned.
 

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I would like Josh Vitters to be called up but that's not happening. It's sad D. Lee isn't performing this year, he'd be more likely to be resigned.

Vitters is at least 2 years away from the majors, if he makes the majors.
 
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