who would you like to see traded

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

Is there any way we can work out some kind of trade with Doug's message forum?

Maybe trade Lewinthal and 2 2nd rd. picks for Newschool Bulls and maybe some cap space?

I shouldn't say that...everyone on here would probably want me traded instead.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:

Is there any way we can work out some kind of trade with Doug's message forum?

Maybe trade Lewinthal and 2 2nd rd. picks for Newschool Bulls and maybe some cap space?

I shouldn't say that...everyone on here would probably want me traded instead.

What would that even accomplish? lol

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

More than the Salmons trade apparently is.

:0)

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:

Is there any way we can work out some kind of trade with Doug's message forum?

Maybe trade Lewinthal and 2 2nd rd. picks for Newschool Bulls and maybe some cap space?

I shouldn't say that...everyone on here would probably want me traded instead.

What would that even accomplish? lol

 

[TheStig]

Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:

Is there any way we can work out some kind of trade with Doug's message forum?

Maybe trade Lewinthal and 2 2nd rd. picks for Newschool Bulls and maybe some cap space?

I shouldn't say that...everyone on here would probably want me traded instead.

What would a second be? A poster to be named later?

 

[??? ??????]

TheStig wrote:

While I don't agree with trading Rose. We could have conceivable had our 2010 this summer if we resigned BG and completed the boozer trade we held up. We would have had a team in the LT but with the same cap number next year.

Rose/Pargo/Hunter
BG/Salmons/Pargo
Deng/Salmons/JJ
Boozer/Taj/JJ
Noah/Miller

With the way BG, Deng, Boozer and Noah have all played to start the season, we would definitely be a top team in the league.

We could have signed another player with the MLE as well if needed.

 

[Shakes]

TheStig wrote:

We could have conceivable had our 2010 this summer if we resigned BG and completed the boozer trade we held up.

IF the boozer trade was actually there to pull the trigger on ... I suspect it was just talks. I mean the trade didn't go down because Portland wouldn't give up a <10 MPG player at the position they were receiving a guy at? Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

We would have had a team in the LT but with the same cap number next year.

No, Ben makes 1.8 million more than Kirk next year.

With the way BG, Deng, Boozer and Noah have all played to start the season, we would definitely be a top team in the league.

Now that I can agree on.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

IF the boozer trade was actually there to pull the trigger on ... I suspect it was just talks. I mean the trade didn't go down because Portland wouldn't give up a <10 MPG player at the position they were receiving a guy at? Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

He is more than a 10mpg player to them. They traded up for him and he was a lottery pick. What did the other sources have to lie? It made entirely too much sense.

No, Ben makes 1.8 million more than Kirk next year.

It depends on if we signed him on the 6/54 or current deal. Both were possible to us. Regardless, both with or without BG we are still counting on Salmons opting out.

Now that I can agree on.

Glad to know there is some reasoning with you

 

[TheStig]

??? ?????? wrote:

TheStig wrote:

While I don't agree with trading Rose. We could have conceivable had our 2010 this summer if we resigned BG and completed the boozer trade we held up. We would have had a team in the LT but with the same cap number next year.

Rose/Pargo/Hunter
BG/Salmons/Pargo
Deng/Salmons/JJ
Boozer/Taj/JJ
Noah/Miller

With the way BG, Deng, Boozer and Noah have all played to start the season, we would definitely be a top team in the league.

We could have signed another player with the MLE as well if needed.

If going into the LT is too much for two 20ppg scorers, you know damn well JR isn't spending the MLE on a backup pg, plus it would kill our cap space the following year if we wanted to try to pull a coup to get Bron or Wade or Bosh instead of Boozer.

 

[Shakes]

TheStig wrote:

He is more than a 10mpg player to them. They traded up for him and he was a lottery pick. What did the other sources have to lie? It made entirely too much sense.

My point is if they value him so much why on earth were they interested in Hinrich to start with? The whole thing made no sense, to me it's just the usual friend of a friend of a GM heard something rubbish that one news outlet runs with and everyone else follows. Who knows what was actually discussed and how far it went, but if you count every rumour that's out there every team would turn over its entire roster about 3 times a year.

If we're going to treat rumoured trades as the literal truth, lets at least go the whole hog and blame Paxson for not trading up for Wade. Why sweat the small stuff?

It depends on if we signed him on the 6/54 or current deal. Both were possible to us. Regardless, both with or without BG we are still counting on Salmons opting out.

Depending on where the cap lands that 1.8 million could be the difference between being able to offer the max or not. And if we're going to go back to the 6/54 deal timeline, a better option than trading Kirk might have been a S&T of Deng, and a trade down in the draft to get Lopez.

But isn't this thread supposed to be who to trade on the team now, not how smart we can look if we have hindsight? :laugh:

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

My point is if they value him so much why on earth were they interested in Hinrich to start with? The whole thing made no sense, to me it's just the usual friend of a friend of a GM heard something rubbish that one news outlet runs with and everyone else follows. Who knows what was actually discussed and how far it went, but if you count every rumour that's out there every team would turn over its entire roster about 3 times a year.
If we're going to treat rumoured trades as the literal truth, lets at least go the whole hog and blame Paxson for not trading up for Wade. Why sweat the small stuff?

Maybe because Portland overvalues its youth like crazy. Plus Kirk is the present and Bayless was their future. They wanted a guy with a 3 yr deal, they got a guy with a 3 yr deal. You can downplay it all you like but that rumor got picked up everywhere and even Rose and Boozer spoke about it. Boozer expected to be here to start the year.

Depending on where the cap lands that 1.8 million could be the difference between being able to offer the max or not. And if we're going to go back to the 6/54 deal timeline, a better option than trading Kirk might have been a S&T of Deng, and a trade down in the draft to get Lopez.

But isn't this thread supposed to be who to trade on the team now, not how smart we can look if we have hindsight? :laugh:

To be fair, I wanted him signed all along so thats why I bring it up but regardless at either deal he is much more important to this team than kirk. But that extra 1.8mill wouldn't matter because if the cap fell enough to make it matter, the max deals would drop accordingly since they are cap based. It is next to impossible that would make a difference besides both are contingent on the unlikely event salmons opts out. If he doesn't at least in my scenario we own Boozers bird rights and have the inside track to resign him.

I really though Boylan went out of his way to destroy BG's numbers so we could resign him cheap. BG barely played down the strech in favor of Hughes and was averaging 20ppg before boylan took over.

 

[Shakes]

Boylan is the poster child for "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence".

 

[??? ??????]

On the Utah trade, I would like to point out that Kevin Pritchard is a horrible GM. The guy had one good draft, and that's it. He messed up the 2007 Draft, which could have made his team a perennial championship contender, and he messed up 2009 free agency.

 

[Shakes]

??? ?????? wrote:

On the Utah trade, I would like to point out that Kevin Pritchard is a horrible GM. The guy had one good draft, and that's it. He messed up the 2007 Draft, which could have made his team a perennial championship contender, and he messed up 2009 free agency.

Yes Pritchard was an idiot for not realising that wrist surgery meant that Oden would break a leg in three years time. How could he be so stupid to take the guy generally considered as the easy choice for #1 pick at #1? I can't believe he didn't listen to some vague article by Bill Simmons saying Oden walked funny!

 

[jsain360]

Any trade will be hard, the but the Bulls man-love for Hinrich kept them from dealing him this offseason, Hinrich should've been dealt for Outlaw and Blake, you get a back-up PG, a wing player that can defend the 2 & 3, both players can knock down the 3, the bench gets deeper, Outlaw can knock down big shot.