Will Moore or Allen match/exceed their 2023 output?

Who will match/exceed their 2023 output?

  • Keenan Allen (108 Catches, 1243 Yards, 7 TDs)

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  • Neither (I am a Packers Fan, and barely qualify as literate)

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(1) DJ Moore's 2023 season was phenomenal. 96 receptions, 1364 yards and 8 TDs were all personal bests. As a bona fide #1 WR with a rookie QB, he would normally be favored to receive the lion's share of receptions again. And yet a reasonable person could believe that his share of offense will go down; Poles saw to it that Williams is flush with good WR talent, Swift is a quality safety valve in the passing game, and Kmet is no slouch at TE. This board could fairly debate whether Keenan Allen had a better season than Moore; his 108 receptions, 1243 yards and 7 TDs were spread over 13 games where Moore suited up for all 17 games. While it is certainly achievable for these two receivers to equal last year's output while competing for passes, I think we can all agree that it is a tall order to put on a rookie QB.

(2) Getting two receiving options to cross the 1000 yard threshold is not unheard of - Tampa Bay, Miami, SF and Philly all accomplished this last year (this list is not meant to be exhaustive, and is only to demonstrate). Among them, only SF had their third option cross 600 yards (Aiyuk -1342, Kittle - 1020, Samuel - 892).

(3) 600 yards over 17 games is 35-36 yards per game. I personally think that Odunze is going to top that number. Given that most teams struggle to feed three receiving threats, and that Odunze should challenge the receivers above him on the depth chart for opportunities, it stands to reason that either Allen or Moore (or both) will see a drop in production. Within the same context, Kmet should have the same expectation of topping 36 yards per game.

TL;DR: And so to the topic question - will either of Chicago's starting WR keep pace with last year's production?

(My Thoughts) I personally see Allen being a security blanket that lives between 8-10 yards downfield. He will have an impact as the receiver who just churns out first downs, but I expect that his overall share of the offense to go down. By the end of the year, I expect his opportunities to go down while Odunze's goes up. If I were trying to entice the most bets, I would probably set the over/under for Allen at 75 catches for 900 yards, with more than 50% of his production to come in the first half of the year. For comparison, I think that Moore is going to increase his volume and top 1500 yards.
 

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I don't think either one does unless one of the two get injured.

Wish i knew the answer cause right now i have no idea where to draft any of our top 3 WR's in fantasy right now. Thinking i have to go DJ Moore first but can see Keenan being his go to guy with him being one of the top slot WR's in the NFL. Mr dependable.
 

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They will both pass their totals of 2023. More will have over 1364 yards, Keenan will have more than 1243 yards.

I did not vote because you did not have the option I wanted: Rome will also have over 1640 yards.

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Does it matter? With all the weapons the Bears suddenly have everyone could dip a bit production wise and still have a great offense. All I care about is if they start scoring a lot more TD’s now.
 

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I don't think either one does unless one of the two get injured.

Wish i knew the answer cause right now i have no idea where to draft any of our top 3 WR's in fantasy right now. Thinking i have to go DJ Moore first but can see Keenan being his go to guy with him being one of the top slot WR's in the NFL. Mr dependable.
I am not sure I agree with you there - DJ Moore is a clear 15+ yards per reception kind of player. On a fully healthy season, I think he becomes the clear go-to weapon, as he is a threat to convert to a new set of downs at all down and distances. He is the clear #1 and I think he is topping 100 catches this year.

The above is the simple arithmetic that has me anticipating 1500+ yards. Should he get injured, that clearly changes, but I do think he is going to be "the man" in this offense. I see Allen being a better Earl Bennet in the long run this year - not in limiting his production, but that his greatest impact is to be a safe target with a large catch radius for third downs.
 

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Does it matter? With all the weapons the Bears suddenly have everyone could dip a bit production wise and still have a great offense. All I care about is if they start scoring a lot more TD’s now.
It matters about as little as debating the total running yards at this stage of the offseason - the thought came to me as I was discussing rookies and fantasy football with some friends over the weekend.

It could be that we lack a 1000 yard receiver this year and still have a lot of success - Mahomes had a "down year" by his standards, didnt have a 1000 yard receiver, and still would have broken the Bears passing yards record. Jordan Love would have taken that record as well, had he played here, and his best receiver came up just short of 800 yards.
 

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They will both pass their totals of 2023. More will have over 1364 yards, Keenan will have more than 1243 yards.

I did not vote because you did not have the option I wanted: Rome will also have over 1640 yards.

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That is too much for a backup-backup-backup tight end. You can't get that many yards when you are on the FG unit. Odunze looks about as fast and as fat as the Kool Aid Man, with half the vertical.
 

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Their production will depend squarely on the effectiveness of the line up front. If Pass Pro improves, they will likely see similar numbers potentially. Inconsistency in the line will lead to inconsistency in the passing game.
 

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That is too much for a backup-backup-backup tight end. You can't get that many yards when you are on the FG unit. Odunze looks about as fast and as fat as the Kool Aid Man, with half the vertical.
He will be the NFL version of the round mound of rebound.

With his girth, he will have a natural separation between himself and a defender. If Caleb can be accurate, Odunze will be a natural target even though he has trouble jumping over the yardage stripes on the field.
 

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He will be the NFL version of the round mound of rebound.

With his girth, he will have a natural separation between himself and a defender. If Caleb can be accurate, Odunze will be a natural target even though he has trouble jumping over the yardage stripes on the field.
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I don't think either one does unless one of the two get injured.

Wish i knew the answer cause right now i have no idea where to draft any of our top 3 WR's in fantasy right now. Thinking i have to go DJ Moore first but can see Keenan being his go to guy with him being one of the top slot WR's in the NFL. Mr dependable.
I added a neither + Bears Fan option for you
 

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Their production will depend squarely on the effectiveness of the line up front. If Pass Pro improves, they will likely see similar numbers potentially. Inconsistency in the line will lead to inconsistency in the passing game.

Depends on Caleb way more than the OL. Every starter on that line is a vet now. We should get if nothing else middle of the road production there.

Caleb is a rookie. Don’t know if we get Bryce Young or CJ Stroud.
 

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It matters about as little as debating the total running yards at this stage of the offseason - the thought came to me as I was discussing rookies and fantasy football with some friends over the weekend.

It could be that we lack a 1000 yard receiver this year and still have a lot of success - Mahomes had a "down year" by his standards, didnt have a 1000 yard receiver, and still would have broken the Bears passing yards record. Jordan Love would have taken that record as well, had he played here, and his best receiver came up just short of 800 yards.

I personally don’t give a shit about fantasy…. But if that’s why you asked then I get the question.
 

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Does it matter? With all the weapons the Bears suddenly have everyone could dip a bit production wise and still have a great offense. All I care about is if they start scoring a lot more TD’s now.
Something tells me both DJ and Keenan would be more happy with a winning record and playoff games than beating last years totals.
 

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I personally don’t give a shit about fantasy…. But if that’s why you asked then I get the question.
Well, not looking for fantasy advice per se. I am only in the one fantasy football league, with friends from college, and we stay in touch pretty well. That is just the context for why I had thought to bring it up.
 

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I don't think any of them do BETTER than last year. DJM had a CAREER year, and with Allen and Odunze, plus Kmet and Swift—he'll probably see a slight regression. I don't see Allen hitting those marks as well, same reason. Odunze should have a GREAT rookie year, IDK if it'll be more than Puka, but it should be very good.
 

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It would take Caleb throwing for 4000+ yards for DJM/Allen to PASS those marks IMO. Could we get three 1000-yard WRs? It's very rare, and I doubt it. Possible? Sure. But very unlikely. More like 1200/1000/800 if that. But probably more like 1000, 800, 600. But all three will do well.
 

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I think DJ will have his best season yet.
Allen isn’t gonna stay healthy, that coupled with DJ, Kmet and Rome I think he won’t repeat last year.
 
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