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is it me or does the oprah face with sunglasses look like Stevie Wonder? You decide:
Would you really be that surprised if we made the playoffs this year?
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PFFFFTTTTT!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/passesDefended
Ouch, Chicago didn't even have a defender that made the top 32..........Keep talking, maybe soon enough you will convince yourself what you say is true......
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Damn...another poster who loves to blow up his own arguments. Thanks for saving me the work bro! I see you tried to cherry pick passes defended for some lame reason...kinda like your sad argument. Do you realize that Culler had twice as many picks at 4 as Det top CB? Lol
Kyle fuller had 4 ints and 3 forced fumbles in a shortened year. 7 turnovers and player of the week award while Det didn't even have a CB in the top 80....OUCH!
You were saying? Didn't want to look up 2013 because I didn't want to further embarrass you with Jennings stats and pro bowl nod but we know Slay was at the bottom. Thanks again for that brah and please keep talking
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That guy is probably a Detroit homer. I mean, it was blatantly common knowledge to every fan in the NFL that Detroit's weakness on defense the past few years was their corners. And that was with Suh dominating the line.
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[QUOTE=L GUAPO;2152584]Damn...another poster who loves to blow up his own arguments. Thanks for saving me the work bro! I see you tried to cherry pick passes defended for some lame reason...kinda like your sad argument. Do you realize that Culler had twice as many picks at 4 as Det top CB? Lol
Kyle fuller had 4 ints and 3 forced fumbles in a shortened year. 7 turnovers and player of the week award while Det didn't even have a CB in the top 80....OUCH!
You were saying? Didn't want to look up 2013 because I didn't want to further embarrass you with Jennings stats and pro bowl nod but we know Slay was at the bottom. Thanks again for that brah and please keep talking[/QUOTE]
I have to say, passes defended is the #1 priority when grading a CB, as for the rest, Slay has become a good CB, Fuller had his moments, and has a high ceiling moving forward, Jennings was the worst of the three, his game is declining. That said, nobody with a brain would confuse either teams secondary with the Seahawks.
Kyle fuller had 4 ints and 3 forced fumbles in a shortened year. 7 turnovers and player of the week award while Det didn't even have a CB in the top 80....OUCH!
You were saying? Didn't want to look up 2013 because I didn't want to further embarrass you with Jennings stats and pro bowl nod but we know Slay was at the bottom. Thanks again for that brah and please keep talking[/QUOTE]
I have to say, passes defended is the #1 priority when grading a CB, as for the rest, Slay has become a good CB, Fuller had his moments, and has a high ceiling moving forward, Jennings was the worst of the three, his game is declining. That said, nobody with a brain would confuse either teams secondary with the Seahawks.
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No I am not going to look at his 2013 stats when I am projecting his performance for 2015 moron, I will look at his performance in 2014 and factor in that he is another year older and sucked ass last year. And the only reason he made the pro-bowl one of those years is due to the fact Richard Sherman did not participate. Stafford played in the pro-bowl last year, does that make him a Pro-Bowl QB? Hell no. As for Fuller, if you read what I said, TIME WILL TELL WITH FULLER. It's common knowledge (although it escapes you) that it takes a few years for Cornerbacks to develop in the NFL, and with Slay going into his third year, I expect to see even more improvement. As for your silly argument about cherry picking stats, just exactly what stat do you suggest to use when grading out a CB dumbass? Tackles? If your cornerbacks are making a significant amount of tackles, there is something bad wrong (and there is with the Bears). Interceptions are as much a gift as they are an indicator of talent.,
I am a Bears fan living in Michigan, so I get more than my fair share of Lions info to be honest. Homerism is when some moron makes statements projecting his or her 5-11 team to miraculously make it into the playoffs the next year largely in part due to the fact they drafted a receiver in the first round. We still got the same bumbling moron throwing the ball, and the last time I checked, that was a vital part of the pass/completion process. Not to mention our O-line is still below average, our schedule is a killer and we are in the first year of a new system....need I go on HOMER?
Give it a rest already. We are not suddenly better than a team that has swept us the last two years, and we are certainly not better than Green Bay. A strong argument could be made that Minnesota has progressed much farther in team development and is more of a threat to the aforementioned two teams then we are, especially if they get a healthy AP back. We will be dam lucky not to be bottom dweller in our own conference, let alone make the playoffs dumbshit.
Does that make me a pessimist? No! A hater? No! I will sit back and watch games and not expect miracles (only to be sadly disappointed) but rather watch the development of some of our younger players such as Fuller and White, watch our new head coaches; full well expecting that there will be a learning curve and in the second year will see additional improvement (oh and this will be the second year under Caldwell and Austin) and be happy that I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Thank you. And hell no, your spot on about comparing either to the Seahawks secondary. Although, I do admit, I look forward to seeing CJ vs Sherman this year.
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Big time. Some homers just don't bother to review some other major stats before they spew. Detroit has proba ly had one of the worst CB play this past decade yet they keep doubling up on positions like TE instead of addressing their major need.....well they are the Detroit Lions for a reason.
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And yet they have swept us the last two years.........
That's the best comeback you got? Really?
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I have to say, passes defended is the #1 priority when grading a CB, as for the rest, Slay has become a good CB, Fuller had his moments, and has a high ceiling moving forward, Jennings was the worst of the three, his game is declining. That said, nobody with a brain would confuse either teams secondary with the Seahawks.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but most analysts, coaches, players and fans don't share your thoughts on what makes an all pro CB. CB that shut down WRs like Tillman as well as causing game-changing ints and fumbles are far more important. Det CBs and Slay are severly lacking in that department. I'm just glad we have Fuller and they have nobody of any importance as a CB. Suh's loss will drop that D out of the top 5
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All you had to say is you are from Michigan and that would show what kind of homer you are. You should have ended it there. But saying ints are gifts makes you look like a bigger clown than usual. You crack me up. That has got to be the most ridiculous comeback I have heard in a while. Then since you can't dispute the fact that Fuller had 7 turnovers to your highest-ranked Det CB at a whole 2, you change the subject to who beat who.
Classic stuff. Those little things called facts are awesome and you should look into em
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Because of the coaching change I would not be surprised. You just never know. In all honesty, nothing in sports really surprised me anymore.
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Only in your mind they do. Using your "conventional" wisdom (that of a third grader), Fuller rates higher than Revis and Talib as well. LMAO I prefer my Cb's to be on the field, not on the sidelines like some glass china doll. But hey, at least the conversation has gone from comparing secondary's to CB's to Slay vs Fuller. Whatever it takes man......lmao
Pffft. More delusion. Ok Detroit might slip a few spots on D with the loss of Suh. They might slip from 3 all the way to what 7-8 maybe even ten? Guess what moron, Chicago's defense was rated 31st, and they barely edged out Oakland. Get a clue, read more-post less.
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The best indicators of a good CB are QB rating when throwing at him and the amount a QB throws at him. Passes defended is good but it can be deceiving if that player has s lot of balls thrown his way and is inconsistent.
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Also keep in mind Fuller was a rookie and was being misused by Tucker. Also he was injured for half the year. He certainly has a higher ceiling than Slay.
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Great way to skirt the issue of your horrible argument of tipped passes being the measuring stick for CBs. I prefer CBs to actually catch the ball or strip it and shut down the WR versus your warped warped logic. You can't even spin yourself out of your futile argument lol keep up the good work and start comparing Sherman when he had more picks. Great way to support my argument bro. You seriously just need to take a time out in the corner.
And you are the only moron whowould prefer a bad CB like Slay over a potential HOFer in Tillman and his China doll self. Lmao
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Fuller did more in one game vs the 9ers than Slay has done his whole career. Didn't Slay get benched lmao!!
This Detroit homer needs serious help
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Very true. It's just that an interception is more likely to be a game changing play than forcing an incompletion is.
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On first glance I thought the Bears would go 6-10.
But now everytime I look at the schedule I struggle to even see the 6th win.
The Bears schedule is BRUTAL, you have to assume some injuries, and they would need a meteoric improvement from Cutler to compete with teams like Seattle, Denver and GB.
But now everytime I look at the schedule I struggle to even see the 6th win.
The Bears schedule is BRUTAL, you have to assume some injuries, and they would need a meteoric improvement from Cutler to compete with teams like Seattle, Denver and GB.
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Slay was really good last year.
I would still take Fuller, who to me flashed when allowed to play aggressively and then faded when injured and asked to play off man or loose zone for 10 straight games.
Mel Tucker made Fuller look worse last season.