WWII Vet Discovers He's Not A US Citizen

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The first comment on the Yahoo page says it all.

He paid his dues defending the country. He's a citizen.
 

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if he served for this Country... he's a citizen in my eyes.
 

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if he served for this Country... he's a citizen in my eyes.



Agreed and not only with a WWII vet. Anyone here who serves our country in our armed forces should be automatically a U.S. citizen.
 

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Don't be suprised by any of this folks. As you all know I just did my 20 in the navy, I was born in an Army hospital in Okinawa. All the correct paperwork was filed so on and so forth, I am and always have been an American citizen, born of American parents abroad. With my back ground in Communications and crypto, I have held and am still eligibe to hold a TS/SCI clearance. Never had any issues with anything, other then some arrests in my younger days, and not being too bright about money when I was younger.

My last routine verification, they are due every 5 years, was completed literally just a few months before I retired. Anyway, I fill out the SF-86 and all the other paperwork I have to, and send it in. A week later I get a phone call from OPM (Office of Personnel Management, they handle background checks for the govt now) they want to see my naturalization paperwork. I'm like wtf you talking about, I am a US citizen? "Well according to what you filled out you were born in Okinawa and that makes you Japanese Mr Conn,"....Fucking idiot seriously figured I was Japanese. "We can't process this until you provide your naturalization paperwork." My answer was "I tell you what, you go back through my previous paperwork, the first one was completed in 91, and access all the files that you are capable of looking at, as you are conducting a background check for the highest clearance you can, and you will find a copy of all the documentation you need dumbass. Also I would like your name please, because I will be filing a complaint about this." Needless to say, I never got bothered by them again...although my friends did when they did the door knocking part of the investigation...LOL.
 

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SO does this mean he can sue the government for all the back taxes and such he's paid.
 

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Don't be suprised by any of this folks. As you all know I just did my 20 in the navy, I was born in an Army hospital in Okinawa. All the correct paperwork was filed so on and so forth, I am and always have been an American citizen, born of American parents abroad. With my back ground in Communications and crypto, I have held and am still eligibe to hold a TS/SCI clearance. Never had any issues with anything, other then some arrests in my younger days, and not being too bright about money when I was younger.

My last routine verification, they are due every 5 years, was completed literally just a few months before I retired. Anyway, I fill out the SF-86 and all the other paperwork I have to, and send it in. A week later I get a phone call from OPM (Office of Personnel Management, they handle background checks for the govt now) they want to see my naturalization paperwork. I'm like wtf you talking about, I am a US citizen? "Well according to what you filled out you were born in Okinawa and that makes you Japanese Mr Conn,"....Fucking idiot seriously figured I was Japanese. "We can't process this until you provide your naturalization paperwork." My answer was "I tell you what, you go back through my previous paperwork, the first one was completed in 91, and access all the files that you are capable of looking at, as you are conducting a background check for the highest clearance you can, and you will find a copy of all the documentation you need dumbass. Also I would like your name please, because I will be filing a complaint about this." Needless to say, I never got bothered by them again...although my friends did when they did the door knocking part of the investigation...LOL.







You told me the Navy didn't have a complaint dept when I wanted to file a complaint.
 

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You told me the Navy didn't have a complaint dept when I wanted to file a complaint.

I am talking about OPM Bri. You can complain to whoever you want to Bri, the Navy does not have a Complaint Dept or Complaint Command. LOL, I could see that...too funny. Thank you I needed a laugh today.



They will call it COMNAVCOMPCOM: Commander Naval Complaint Command
 

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I am talking about OPM Bri. You can complain to whoever you want to Bri, the Navy does not have a Complaint Dept or Complaint Command. LOL, I could see that...too funny. Thank you I needed a laugh today.



They will call it COMNAVCOMPCOM: Commander Naval Complaint Command





OPM? Official Poop Management?





Yuck it up, Mr. Bubble, but I worked long and hard on those cookies and it should not have taken a month for him to get them when they went Priority Mail.
 

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OPM? Official Poop Management?





Yuck it up, Mr. Bubble, but I worked long and hard on those cookies and it should not have taken a month for him to get them when they went Priority Mail.

Bri, the address you sent it to was an APO address for a SHIP. You know them things that move around in the ocean, ALOT. Mission Security comes first, personal mail, last. Be happy he got them at all, My first deployment, I got mail a month after I got home. And I recommended to you that you should not send them priority. They tell every sailor to tell their frineds and family dont send perishables like cookies and things of that nature UNLESS you are talking about chip's ahoy or oreos, things that are hermatically sealed. Unreal.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong bubble but if you join the armed forces now and aren't a citizen you automatically become one after you serve. Because I hear lots of stories about illegal immigrants in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong bubble but if you join the armed forces now and aren't a citizen you automatically become one after you serve. Because I hear lots of stories about illegal immigrants in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I have never heard of that, to be honest. Kind of sounds like Starship Troopers to me "Serve and become a citizen" but is possible. Would explain why there are so many phillipinos in the Navy.
 

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I have never heard of that, to be honest. Kind of sounds like Starship Troopers to me "Serve and become a citizen" but is possible. Would explain why there are so many phillipinos in the Navy.



Did the government experiment with that during the Civil War?
 

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Members and certain veterans of the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to apply for United States citizenship under special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). In addition, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has streamlined the application and naturalization process for military personnel serving on active-duty or recently discharged. Generally, qualifying service is in one of the following branches: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, certain reserve components of the National Guard and the Selected Reserve of the Ready Reserve.
 

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Bri, the address you sent it to was an APO address for a SHIP. You know them things that move around in the ocean, ALOT. Mission Security comes first, personal mail, last. Be happy he got them at all, My first deployment, I got mail a month after I got home. And I recommended to you that you should not send them priority. They tell every sailor to tell their frineds and family dont send perishables like cookies and things of that nature UNLESS you are talking about chip's ahoy or oreos, things that are hermatically sealed. Unreal.





I had other packages get to him in a week. And people have been sending cookies to family members and friends in the military long before I was born to give them a taste of home. What if it had contained something important like a pair of glasses or medication?
 

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I had other packages get to him in a week. And people have been sending cookies to family members and friends in the military long before I was born to give them a taste of home. What if it had contained something important like a pair of glasses or medication?

You are absolutely correct Bri, they have been doing it for ages, and they understand that there are times that stuff gets to them real quick, and others it takes forever. That is the way the wave breaks my dear. It has been that way since there has been a standing Navy of any type anywhere. Several people on here have explained to you that being in the military is not the same thing as being at home. You dont get mail delivered to you everyday, You cant go runnng to the grocery store if you run out of something. Or even run to the fridge to grab a beer.



Oh and on the last one, if a sailor requires medication, it comes from the corpsman/Doc onboard, not from home. You don't send medication in the mail. Part of being a good sailor Bri, is when packing your stuff for a deployment or any kind of an underway, is to ensure you have everything you need, even your glasses, with a spare set.
 

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I had other packages get to him in a week. And people have been sending cookies to family members and friends in the military long before I was born to give them a taste of home. What if it had contained something important like a pair of glasses or medication?



...or a 15" black rubber dick?
 

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Members and certain veterans of the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to apply for United States citizenship under special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). In addition, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has streamlined the application and naturalization process for military personnel serving on active-duty or recently discharged. Generally, qualifying service is in one of the following branches: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, certain reserve components of the National Guard and the Selected Reserve of the Ready Reserve.
Thanks. I seriously didnt know this. Maybe should have. In alot of ways it scares me, thinking on what I went through just before getting out, how many non-US citizens have clearances?
 

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