You can re-make one movie.

[WestCoastBearsFan]

The Last Jedi was the best Star Wars of the final trilogy, by far. The other two were complete garbage. That whole trilogy was trash really. I think they wasted good talent on a terrible story line.

Completely disagree. They were all bad but TLJ was dog shit IMHO. I’ll never get over the fact that Luke freaking Skywalker tried to kill his nephew because of a bad dream and then ran away and had a hissy fit for who knows how long. Snoke was also the biggest let down since Darth Maul. I would put AOTC above TLJ.

 

[SilenceS]

Honestly, Episode I and III weren't that bad. Attack of the Clones is fucking horrible. Those movies would've been so much better if the dialogue weren't so dry. Part of the issue too was Darth Vader had way too much lore and backstory to really flesh out in 3 movies spanning 20ish years. The Clone Wars did a far better job expanding on all that.

I'd re-do Super Mario Bros. and just have it somewhat resemble the video game, as opposed to some dumb **** evolution/de-evolution plot. Or Spider-Man 3 and not have a million enemies or Topher freaking Grace as Eddie Brock/Venom.

Honestly, I would put III as the second or third best of all the Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back is one and I would put it it with Return of the Jedi.

Also, if we talking whole universe then Rogue One is up there. I dont mind the prequels at all. I like them better then the sequels.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

How I would rank SW movies
1 ESB
2 ROTS
3 Rogue One
4 ROTJ
5 ANH
6 Phantom Menace
7 Solo
8 TFA
9 AOTC
10 TROS
11 TLJ

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

How I would rank SW movies
1 ESB
2 ROTS
3 Rogue One
4 ROTJ
5 ANH
6 Phantom Menace
7 Solo
8 TFA
9 AOTC
10 TROS
11 TLJ

you’re missing that Ewok movie lol lol

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

you’re missing that Ewok movie lol lol

Ew

 

[Granada]

The Last Jedi was the best Star Wars of the final trilogy, by far. The other two were complete garbage. That whole trilogy was trash really. I think they wasted good talent on a terrible story line.

I feel like Abrams completely ruined everything with the way he made Force Awakens. Zero originality and a carbon copy of New Hope -- that got the entire new trilogy off to a shit start. I agree that Last Jedi was the best out of the new trilogy; at least Johnson took some risks and tried to drive the story into newer territory.

Rise of Skywalker was terrible on every level -- over-saturated with way too many characters and a horrible plot. You can say what you will about Jar-Jar and Darth Maul, but resurrecting the Emperor was by far the dumbest thing that was ever done in any Star Wars movie.

 

[Ares]

I feel like Abrams completely ruined everything with the way he made Force Awakens. Zero originality and a carbon copy of New Hope -- that got the entire new trilogy off to a shit start. I agree that Last Jedi was the best out of the new trilogy; at least Johnson took some risks and tried to drive the story into newer territory.

Rise of Skywalker was terrible on every level -- over-saturated with way too many characters and a horrible plot. You can say what you will about Jar-Jar and Darth Maul, but resurrecting the Emperor was by far the dumbest thing that was ever done in any Star Wars movie.

I agree with you, but will focus on your "resurrecting the Emperor was by far the dumbest thing that was ever done in any Star Wars movie."

Well... a movie/story trilogy typically has a beginning/middle/end and you introduce and/or indicate the primary villain(s) in that first movie/story.

Force Awakens being a carbon copy of New Hope (I'd also it stole a bit from the entire original trilogy), meant they had to introduce a pair of villains ala Vader/Emperor, so they went Ren/Emperor Snoke.... but then decided to pivot to a new story path in Last Jedi by killing Snoke, and pushing Ren from villain to anti-hero.

Basically.... by the end of Last Jedi the story had eaten up the arc of the villains from the original trilogy, and hadn't done a whole lot to introduce or foreshadow another villain.

The only brane ded writing option was to bring back the Emperor and just kinda try to redo the confrontation at the end of Return of the Jedi, just with higher stakes... stakes btw they did nothing in the prior two movies to foreshadow or build up.

TL;DR: They started re-telling the exact same story as the original trilogy, and they probably should have just continued telling the same story with the same villains on the same timeline.

I always thought they should have began building a new and more dangerous outside threat, something like Sith-powered but mass produced by some kind of new super villain that is far more vicious and savage.

Perhaps a threat the old Sith have to cooperate with the new Jedi on in order to survive.

People enjoy the settings of Star Wars.... Wild West Space Opera..... light sabers.... good vs evil.... write a new story, keep it to 3-4 main characters with 3-5 recurring characters... people will lap it up.

The "Skywalker" Trilogy told almost zero new story.... but at least we got Babu Frik

 

[Granada]

I agree with you, but will focus on your "resurrecting the Emperor was by far the dumbest thing that was ever done in any Star Wars movie."

Well... a movie/story trilogy typically has a beginning/middle/end and you introduce and/or indicate the primary villain(s) in that first movie/story.

Force Awakens being a carbon copy of New Hope (I'd also it stole a bit from the entire original trilogy), meant they had to introduce a pair of villains ala Vader/Emperor, so they went Ren/Emperor Snoke.... but then decided to pivot to a new story path in Last Jedi by killing Snoke, and pushing Ren from villain to anti-hero.

Basically.... by the end of Last Jedi the story had eaten up the arc of the villains from the original trilogy, and hadn't done a whole lot to introduce or foreshadow another villain.

The only brane ded writing option was to bring back the Emperor and just kinda try to redo the confrontation at the end of Return of the Jedi, just with higher stakes... stakes btw they did nothing in the prior two movies to foreshadow or build up.

TL;DR: They started re-telling the exact same story as the original trilogy, and they probably should have just continued telling the same story with the same villains on the same timeline.

I always thought they should have began building a new and more dangerous outside threat, something like Sith-powered but mass produced by some kind of new super villain that is far more vicious and savage.

Perhaps a threat the old Sith have to cooperate with the new Jedi on in order to survive.

People enjoy the settings of Star Wars.... Wild West Space Opera..... light sabers.... good vs evil.... write a new story, keep it to 3-4 main characters with 3-5 recurring characters... people will lap it up.

The "Skywalker" Trilogy told almost zero new story.... but at least we got Babu Frik

Babu Frik, lol

Honestly, the Knights of Ren should have been the new main villain -- if they were done right, from the get-go in Force Awakens, I think they could have easily subbed for Snoke and/or the Emperor in Rise of Skywalker. And it would have been different than the over-used formula of old-man bad guy (Emperor) and younger bad-guy apprentice. Instead, they were completely wasted and had zero back-story -- they were essentially reduced to bad guys that looked cool (as if we didn't have enough of that with the utterly useless Phasma).

 

[Ares]

Babu Frik, lol

Honestly, the Knights of Ren should have been the new main villain -- if they were done right, from the get-go in Force Awakens, I think they could have easily subbed for Snoke and/or the Emperor in Rise of Skywalker. And it would have been different than the over-used formula of old-man bad guy (Emperor) and younger bad-guy apprentice. Instead, they were completely wasted and had zero back-story -- they were essentially reduced to bad guys that looked cool (as if we didn't have enough of that with the utterly useless Phasma).

You need to give your audience a reason to feel animosity towards your villains.... actually build a character.

Say what you want about the prequels, but they at least built Anakin into a villain when he squared off with Obi-Wan.

You knew what he'd become, and you wanted to see Obi-Wan cut off his stupid fucking limbs.... who tf kills a room full of little kids with a light saber?

Snoke was an alien guy who was in charge, then (just like Vader) Ren went ahead and killed him.

Snoke could have been a night manager at a Galactic Wendy's for all I fucking knew about him.

 

[airtime143]

I believe Maul had a brief cameo in the Solo movie.

I’d redo Predator vs Aliens......

Should have been much better

This. SO MUCH THIS!

That should have been epic.

 

[modo]

This. SO MUCH THIS!

That should have been epic.

It was horribly disappointing and it could have been worlds better

 

[modo]

On a side note, there should be a Batman vs Predator movie......the comic was really good

 

[ijustposthere]

Completely disagree. They were all bad but TLJ was dog shit IMHO. I’ll never get over the fact that Luke freaking Skywalker tried to kill his nephew because of a bad dream and then ran away and had a hissy fit for who knows how long. Snoke was also the biggest let down since Darth Maul. I would put AOTC above TLJ.

Honestly, those movies were a fucking abortion, and were being taken in the wrong direction from the jump. I didn't mind TFA until Rey suddenly had powers and could use the Jedi mind trick out of nowhere. It was so fucking stupid. Then she holds her own against Kylo, who legit trained as a Jedi and Sith. Vader wiped the floor with Luke in their first meeting, and I'd say Luke was far more advanced than Rey in Episode V.

Hell Episode V Luke vs Kylo is probably a fair fight, but Mary Sue Rey holds her own against him. As does a fucking defected Storm Trooper. And don't give me the shit about him being wounded. Sith feed off pain. It's literally why Vader was so strong without all of his limbs. Last Jedi is the only one of the sequels I'd consider watching again, and it had one of the better lightsaber duels in the movies. Luke vs Ren was pretty fucking amazing, though not on the level of either Luke vs Vaders or Obi-Wan vs Anakin. I'd watch AOTC before watching TFA or ROS, easy.

 

[ijustposthere]

You need to give your audience a reason to feel animosity towards your villains.... actually build a character.

Say what you want about the prequels, but they at least built Anakin into a villain when he squared off with Obi-Wan.

You knew what he'd become, and you wanted to see Obi-Wan cut off his stupid fucking limbs.... who tf kills a room full of little kids with a light saber?

Snoke was an alien guy who was in charge, then (just like Vader) Ren went ahead and killed him.

Snoke could have been a night manager at a Galactic Wendy's for all I fucking knew about him.

It was so fucking stupid. There is so much Star Wars lore to draw from, and they decide to make an "original" story that is an exact carbon copy of the, um, original story.

Honestly, I would put III as the second or third best of all the Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back is one and I would put it it with Return of the Jedi.

Also, if we talking whole universe then Rogue One is up there. I dont mind the prequels at all. I like them better then the sequels.

Rogue One was great. And I think Solo was really good too. Not sure why that one caught so much flak. Anyone that doesn't have Empire as the best Star Wars movie has lost their mind. Personally, I like A New Hope over ROTJ. The Ewoks kill it for me. I love ROTS. Honestly, I still think Yoda would've taken Sidious if he didn't run out of time. He clearly outclassed him with a saber. He had Sidious on the run that whole fight. Anakin/Vader probably takes any Jedi outside of Obi-Wan and Yoda.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

#1 - My first and foremost idea would be to ... bring Andy Whitfield back to life some-fuckin-how and let him finish up Spartacus as Spartacus..the original plan was a 7 seasons series promise from Starz...more John Hannah & Viva Bianca needed also.

BUT no doubt, Liam McIntyre did a damn amazing job replacing Andy Whitfield as Spartacus.

#2 REVIVE THE CHAPPELLE SHOW. NUFF SAID.

I would also remake the last season of G.o.T. plus, Finish up and complete Carnivale, Da Vinci Demons, Jericho, My Name is Earl, The Riches, & WATCHMEN.

Spartacus is one of my favorite shows. The perfect mix of violence, tits n ass, and drama. Very well done show. I didn't find it until all 4 seasons were done so I was pretty sad when I found out the OG Spartacus had died and replaced him with a more pussy looking Spartacus, but I agree that Liam filled in and was solid once you get used to him.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Honestly, those movies were a fucking abortion, and were being taken in the wrong direction from the jump. I didn't mind TFA until Rey suddenly had powers and could use the Jedi mind trick out of nowhere. It was so fucking stupid. Then she holds her own against Kylo, who legit trained as a Jedi and Sith. Vader wiped the floor with Luke in their first meeting, and I'd say Luke was far more advanced than Rey in Episode V.

Hell Episode V Luke vs Kylo is probably a fair fight, but Mary Sue Rey holds her own against him. As does a fucking defected Storm Trooper. And don't give me the shit about him being wounded. Sith feed off pain. It's literally why Vader was so strong without all of his limbs. Last Jedi is the only one of the sequels I'd consider watching again, and it had one of the better lightsaber duels in the movies. Luke vs Ren was pretty fucking amazing, though not on the level of either Luke vs Vaders or Obi-Wan vs Anakin. I'd watch AOTC before watching TFA or ROS, easy.

I just feel like (obviously) they were rushed and so ill conceived from the start they were doomed from day one. Disney rushed into this sequel trilogy understandably to capitalize on their $4B investment but there was no plan. I think Sam Witwer, the voice actor for Maul and many others in the animated series said it best. If you’re going to fundamentally change a character you have to do it on screen. The last time we saw Luke he was a happy go lucky optimistic guy who was going to rebuild the Jedi order on Endor. And then all the sudden he’s throwing his father’s lightsaber over a ledge and he’s all depressed and a run away. If you wanted to have Luke Skywalker have a decline into depression than show it to me. An animated series could have been perfect for that.


As for Mary Sue nothing makes sense about her and it sucks because I really wanted to like her. After TFA I really wanted to know who her parents were like everybody else. After TLJ I legitimately didn’t care what they did with Star Wars for a year and a half.

It’s a shame too because they had so much potential for the sequels. Not sure if you’re familiar with them but the Thrawn trilogy from the EU would have made for a far better story and would have served as a perfect spring board for where SW seemingly wants to go which is into the unexplored region and go into the origins of the Sith and Jedi. Disney never learns though. That’s why they haven’t given control of SW to Filoni and Favreau.

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

Spartacus is one of my favorite shows. The perfect mix of violence, tits n ass, and drama. Very well done show. I didn't find it until all 4 seasons were done so I was pretty sad when I found out the OG Spartacus had died and replaced him with a more pussy looking Spartacus, but I agree that Liam filled in and was solid once you get used to him.

the way Liam gained more weight and got more fluid helped him with action and he really did Andy some justice. I'll never forget the way Liam(spartacus) ran up the hill to face his real true and really good enemy for once and all.....**** man ? 9 people watched that last episode with me because of watch parties we had every week for Spartcus since Gods of the arena season 1.5, all 9 of us were balling out our eyes.?
G.O.T last episode had us like WTF was that!? ???

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

the way Liam gained more weight and got more fluid helped him with action and he really did Andy some justice. I'll never forget the way Liam(spartacus) ran up the hill to face his real true and really good enemy for once and all.....**** man ? 9 people watched that last episode with me because of watch parties we had every week for Spartcus since Gods of the arena season 1.5, all 9 of us were balling out our eyes.?
G.O.T last episode had us like WTF was that!? ???

Nothing in life makes more sense than the people who ruined GOT (the fucking writers) are Packers fans.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

I just finished watching GoT in March. I waited until the entire think was finished and binged it. I'll be honest, I didn't find anything wrong with the way it ended. I'm not sure what people expected.

 

[ijustposthere]

I just feel like (obviously) they were rushed and so ill conceived from the start they were doomed from day one. Disney rushed into this sequel trilogy understandably to capitalize on their $4B investment but there was no plan. I think Sam Witwer, the voice actor for Maul and many others in the animated series said it best. If you’re going to fundamentally change a character you have to do it on screen. The last time we saw Luke he was a happy go lucky optimistic guy who was going to rebuild the Jedi order on Endor. And then all the sudden he’s throwing his father’s lightsaber over a ledge and he’s all depressed and a run away. If you wanted to have Luke Skywalker have a decline into depression than show it to me. An animated series could have been perfect for that.


As for Mary Sue nothing makes sense about her and it sucks because I really wanted to like her. After TFA I really wanted to know who her parents were like everybody else. After TLJ I legitimately didn’t care what they did with Star Wars for a year and a half.

It’s a shame too because they had so much potential for the sequels. Not sure if you’re familiar with them but the Thrawn trilogy from the EU would have made for a far better story and would have served as a perfect spring board for where SW seemingly wants to go which is into the unexplored region and go into the origins of the Sith and Jedi. Disney never learns though. That’s why they haven’t given control of SW to Filoni and Favreau.

Yup, that's what I meant when I said there was so much Star Wars lore to choose from and they made an original story that was already an original story. It was so dumb. They casted perfectly IMO. The sequels could've been great if they had a better script. The sequels were so disappointing because the acting was there. The only reason those movies are even semi-watchable is because of the talent. The story itself was nonsense.

Hopefully they stick to series and offshoots. Leave the Skywalker story alone. It's been fucked up beyond fixing at this point. Mandalorian is amazing though, but, like you said, it's from Favreau's direction more than Disney. Not to mention what Filoni did with Clone Wars. Both of them have brought far more emotion to the story than Disney could ever hope to achieve.