Zach Ertz on trade block

[JGONBORICUA14]

the reason Zach Ertz is on the trade deadline is because he wants a contract similar to Kelce and Kittle...not going to happen here

 

[Mdbearz]

He wasn't really that bad at all like you're trying to make him sound.

Does Graham have breakaway speed anymore? Hell no.

But he made a lot of difficult catches that helped move the chains, and not all of them were touchdowns. So to me he's still a productive player and one I'd want to keep especially with a new quarterback. A tight end that can catch is a quarterback's best friend and security blanket.

He was useless in the middle of the field on blocking (well everywhere actually), and he was not effective in converting 3rd downs or even getting open. It was blatantly obvious that his effort on anything between the 20s was lackadaisical at best....

Sorry but I disagree.

 

[cdubz11]

if i hear "but Graham had 8 TDs and is our main red zone threat" one more time i'm gonna lose my mind.

Kmet woulda had 8 TDs if got all those red zone targets. guess what other TEs would've gotten way more open too it wouldn't be a jump ball every time. Graham is a very below average NFL starting TE.

$10M cap hit for a "veteran presence" is insanely too much, there's 40 other vets on the roster this is dumbest take ever. i get it if NBA team maybe. NFL, just give me the best f'n players.

i'd LOVE getting Ertz. won't happen. but he'd be a massive upgrade. next offseason i expect we'll go after a big time WR or TE. imagine having a Kittle or Kelce on this team.

 

[cdubz11]

the reason Zach Ertz is on the trade deadline is because he wants a contract similar to Kelce and Kittle...not going to happen here

he wont' get that but he deserves a decent sized contract he's got good argument for being 3rd best TE.

 

[Enasic]

I know we have been talking about how Graham is very useful in the RedZone, and he was, but let's not forget how BAD he was on the other 80 Yards. Not until the end of the Year did they start to get Kmet involved between the 20s.

Ertz could be a good pickup if he came with an exchange of players and minimize draft capital to later rounds, because Ertz is 30 now so he may not be the value he once was.

Also people are forgetting the perception of graham before he got here about he was washed. He has one decent season as a red zone target and now we should keep him over ertz who had a down season because of injury?

 

[msadows]

He was useless in the middle of the field on blocking (well everywhere actually), and he was not effective in converting 3rd downs or even getting open. It was blatantly obvious that his effort on anything between the 20s was lackadaisical at best....

Sorry but I disagree.

Jimmy Graham was essentially a finesse Slot WR.

His impact between the 20's isn't always seen. Just like in GB, he soaked up a lot of double teams and safety coverage. That helps Arob/Mooney. Not sexy, obviously, but teams respect him still in the pass game because they know he's still capable of a good play.

Not saying graham is good or anything, he's average to below average as an NFL #1TE, but Im good on trading for ertz. Graham has also worked with wilson, brees, and rodgers. The man knows what a good NFL qb plays like. This team needs as many savvy vets as possible to help foles grow.

 

[msadows]

Also people are forgetting the perception of graham before he got here about he was washed. He has one decent season as a red zone target and now we should keep him over ertz who had a down season because of injury?

He legit had a super similar season as he did in 2017 for the Seahawks when he made the probowl. The only difference was he had 20 less targets.

I made a thread about cutting Graham, because I wanted that to happen due to the direction of the team at the time. With fields now, I'd rather have 1 year of graham than have to trade for ertz and give him a new deal.

We have kmet for cheap for 3 more years. Gotta find a way to re-sign Arob and mooney, maybe even monty.

I'm good on double dipping at TE. Now if this were a slot wideout we were talking about.....yea.

 

[cdubz11]

IDC what anyone says Graham has always been massively overrated to me. he played with one of best QBs ever in best passing offense in football for prime of his career. they threw to him a million times.

 

[KittiesKorner]

he's no adam shaheen

 

[modo]

stop trying to get rid of Graham....he is not the future, but that guy fucks in the red zone

 

[Discus fish salesman]

IDC what anyone says Graham has always been massively overrated to me. he played with one of best QBs ever in best passing offense in football for prime of his career. they threw to him a million times.

Lol I think Graham is a shell of what he was. Claiming he wasn't an incredible player in NO is incredibly stupid though. Generally when that offense throws to someone (Kamara, Colston, Thomas, Graham) a ton it is because they are the best player on the field and being used appropriately

 

[Spitta Andretti]

if i hear "but Graham had 8 TDs and is our main red zone threat" one more time i'm gonna lose my mind.

Kmet woulda had 8 TDs if got all those red zone targets. guess what other TEs would've gotten way more open too it wouldn't be a jump ball every time. Graham is a very below average NFL starting TE.

$10M cap hit for a "veteran presence" is insanely too much, there's 40 other vets on the roster this is dumbest take ever. i get it if NBA team maybe. NFL, just give me the best f'n players.

i'd LOVE getting Ertz. won't happen. but he'd be a massive upgrade. next offseason i expect we'll go after a big time WR or TE. imagine having a Kittle or Kelce on this team.

This whole post is wrong

 

[msadows]

IDC what anyone says Graham has always been massively overrated to me. he played with one of best QBs ever in best passing offense in football for prime of his career. they threw to him a million times.

He played with 3 of the top 15 qb's in NFL history.

Soon to be 4.

Jimmy legend.

 

[modo]

 

[remydat]

Ertz and Kmet is not better than Miller, Graham and Kmet. Ertz is pass his prime at this point. I would rather trade for a Hayden Hurst than Ertz given his injury history and age.