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way to miss the point.
Well haven't you been arguing that they can't contend next year no matter what? What would the point of keeping Zambrano be then?
Well haven't you been arguing that they can't contend next year no matter what? What would the point of keeping Zambrano be then?
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I didnt say all have to go, but when it comes to the pitching. ****, you have to keep him if you are thinking about contending at all. not stating they will be bringing back everyone, but there is a better shot at being a sleeper with him than without him
rotation looking like:
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is more like it.
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I've been arguing pretty strenously that pitching needs to be priority number 1. However, I think it is pretty clear that Zambrano is overpaid and if you have the chance to get out of his contract then you need to take it. I doubt it happens, but having the 19 million to invest would give the Cubs a greater chance of being competitive. I also just found it funny since I thought you were amongst the many people that say the Cubs had no shot at contending next year.
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If we have Wells next year its going to be another long year..we need
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Cashner.
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I don't know how you guys can pencil in Cashner to pitch every fifth day when he hasn't pitched since April and his professional high in innings pitched in a season is a 111 innings. Cashner should be limited to about a 130-140 innings next season and pitching him every fifth day will either get him hurt again or blow way past that number with negative long term effects to his effectiveness.
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Great thing about 5th spot he can be skipped cause of off days. So if done right he could be held to aroudn 130 IP
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Bleacher Nation blogged about how Cashner might not even pitch this season again, which means he might not pitch until fall league or even next spring training.
On a related note I'd like to see the Cubs go with a four-man rotation for a while and see what happens. Give as many innings as possible to the guys who will give you the most value, then throw in a spot starter here and there (long reliever could fill that role) as an occasional breather for the big boys. But they probably won't do that. I think the starters could handle it though, but teams these days seem overly cautious re: pitcher usage.
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In April there is a lot of off days, but even fifth starters usually end up around 160 IP. If you have him in the rotation at the beginning of the season he is going to be well past 150 innings (provided he remains healthy). I also worry that if he is as effective as he was that whoever the manager (Quade has certainly shown a tendency to stick with starters too long) will let him pitch more and won't skip him if other starters are struggling.
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I wouldn't mind a 4 man rotation if it meant keeping a shorter leash on the starters. I think there is a fair bit of evidence to suggest that guys stuff is actually better pitching on 3 days rest versus 4 day rest, but I wouldn't want them regularly go well past 100 pitches if going with 4 man rotation. In all honesty, wouldn't this have been something to try earlier in the season?
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I think they could have tried it if it was just one guy going on the DL, but with two guys going on the DL from the rotation and pitching depth being nonexistent, that option probably wouldn't have been available even if the Cubs were forward-thinking.
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Some teams starting to go to 6 man rotation. Dont think we ever see 4 man rotations again
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The six-man rotation is lazy managing. It reduces the amount of innings given to the best pitchers and you have to rely on subpar pitchers to provide you with 120+ IP. I think 4/5 man rotations are optimal, and if an organization could find a good enough set of durable pitchers they could definitely do the 4-man rotation. Unlikely but I would wager that they'd do pretty well, especially if you now focus nearly all the pitching production on your four most productive guys.
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If we had the 2004 staff..
4 man would be awesome.. Just let Clement be a long reliever.
4 man would be awesome.. Just let Clement be a long reliever.