⭐⭐⭐AWFULSAIL⭐⭐⭐ IGT: Bears @ Colts (RUN 4 UR LYFE Edition)

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Not exactly.

In the first game of the season Kmet was on 48% of the offensive snaps and Everette was 61%

You could make that arguement the second game, but I rarely saw any designed plays to Kmet.

He still had Kmet open at times in both those games. But yes Kmet's usage was less the first game. Caleb is taking more of what the D is giving him instead of looking for the big play.
 

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That's not the discussion point, the discussion was improvement. Stay on topic and don't divert away from it. It's what excusers do. He made the two hosts shit their pants on the air, hilarious.
You must have me confused for the person you were having that conversation with. It is a 93 page conversation, so I don't know why you think there is only one thing to talk about. Seems like just a few messages ago you were saying that it is hilarious that people were expecting him to play like Mahomes or Brady - I agree. Kurt says in the video that you posted that instead, we should be patient to see if he can play like one of the big boys. It is hilarious that people expected him to turn this into a playoff team simply by having been a Heisman winning QB. Look at how on topic I am.

I would have you note, however, that I was commenting that I think you shared a good source. If anything, that supports the conversation you have going on with pseudonym.
 

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You must have me confused for the person you were having that conversation with. It is a 93 page conversation, so I don't know why you think there is only one thing to talk about. Seems like just a few messages ago you were saying that it is hilarious that people were expecting him to play like Mahomes or Brady - I agree. Kurt says in the video that you posted that instead, we should be patient to see if he can play like one of the big boys. It is hilarious that people expected him to turn this into a playoff team simply by having been a Heisman winning QB. Look at how on topic I am.

I would have you note, however, that I was commenting that I think you shared a good source. If anything, that supports the conversation you have going on with pseudonym.
Yeah, well apologies if I came off wrong, but the loyalists in here have had their teeth out since I posted he didn't have a good game. I merely watched and saw what I saw and my expectations. Read my previous post, taking a player number one overall in the draft means absolutely nothing to me. They have zip experience in the NFL to make someone an instant GOAT candidate. I laugh at these fools. It was almost the exact same thing with these clowns for three years of JF. They even go so far as to bash the undrafted rookie Bagent, basically insulting that kids play as if he's a shmoe from timbucktwo, but who actually was 2 and 2 in four games. He played at the same speed of the game as JF and did better than JF to me. I like Bagent, I think it's close to a time to let him show his stuff in 2024. But watch the leaches for CW insult me for that .
 

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Yeah, well apologies if I came off wrong, but the loyalists in here have had their teeth out since I posted he didn't have a good game. I merely watched and saw what I saw and my expectations. Read my previous post, taking a player number one overall in the draft means absolutely nothing to me. They have zip experience in the NFL to make someone an instant GOAT candidate. I laugh at these fools. It was almost the exact same thing with these clowns for three years of JF. They even go so far as to bash the undrafted rookie Bagent, basically insulting that kids play as if he's a shmoe from timbucktwo, but who actually was 2 and 2 in four games. He played at the same speed of the game as JF and did better than JF to me. I like Bagent, I think it's close to a time to let him show his stuff in 2024. But watch the leaches for CW insult me for that .
I think we all expect someone with a popeye avatar to have the salty attitude of a sailor. No problemo. I happen to really like Kurt Warner reactions, am optimistic in Williams in his long-term prospects with this team but overall have also been hoping that Bears fans remain patient. Like you, his college experience means zip to me. Hell, he was playing against PAC 12 defenses, not SEC and Big 10 championship-level defenses.

I am not here for Bagent though. I root for him as a Bears fan, but I don't see him being much more than a placeholder for Caleb to unseat after taking time on the bench. That is what Carolina did with Dalton; they won, but I think Young is going to be worse off for it, which makes it worse for their franchise overall. If you wanted to have Williams take time on the bench, Bagent should have started week one. That is in the past - these games are now for reps for Williams to figure it out.

Appreciate you for your thoughts though.
 

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I think we all expect someone with a popeye avatar to have the salty attitude of a sailor. No problemo. I happen to really like Kurt Warner reactions, am optimistic in Williams in his long-term prospects with this team but overall have also been hoping that Bears fans remain patient. Like you, his college experience means zip to me. Hell, he was playing against PAC 12 defenses, not SEC and Big 10 championship-level defenses.

I am not here for Bagent though. I root for him as a Bears fan, but I don't see him being much more than a placeholder for Caleb to unseat after taking time on the bench. That is what Carolina did with Dalton; they won, but I think Young is going to be worse off for it, which makes it worse for their franchise overall. If you wanted to have Williams take time on the bench, Bagent should have started week one. That is in the past - these games are now for reps for Williams to figure it out.

Appreciate you for your thoughts though.
I completely agree with the Bagent should have started week one. Again, the arrogant prks here would have had a fking heart attack. Their number one overall is the greatest thing since slice bread and adapting to the faster NFL was a walk in the park and absolutely no issue for the great and powerful CW. After three weeks, they are factually wrong. He's played no better than any QB taken after him in the draft.
 
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I completely agree with the Bagent should have started week one. Again, the arrogant prks here would have had a fking heart attack. There number one overall is the greatest thing since slice bread and adapting to the faster NFL was a walk in the park and absolutely no issue for the great and powerful CW. After three weeks, they are factually wrong. He's played no better than any QB taken after him in the draft.
I think it wouldn't have been bad out of hand for Bagent to start in week 1. Make rookies earn their reps, no qualms here. But right now, looking into week 4, these are the most valuable reps you can give to Williams and I don't value looking in the rearview mirror. These are the most competitive defenses he's had to play against, and the short time to make a good decision is crucial. Right now, this is valuable experience to grow from (NFL players seem to me to be the type to learn from doing). We are in "IF" territory. IF Williams was worth the pick invested in him, these are important lessons to learn from live fire. IF Williams was not, then we find out over the next two or three years, but his chances are maximized by investing these reps in him.

The difference between a strike at 40 yards and an ugly 5 yard overthrow is seriously 5 mph (presuming the difference between 45 MPH and 50 MPH at 6 ft tall, and a launch angle of 25 degrees and a flight time of 2 sec). That takes live fire to develop - practice doesn't cut it to me, given that practice is softer than in the day.

In the end though... did you have fun seeing any of the throws Williams DID make on Sunday? We got to see some big plays with some real zip
 
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LOL JFC. It's week three. Do I need to unpack how many elite QBs sucked their rookie year? Caleb is making progress. It's not all his fault. I'm not worried about him AT ALL. OL? Yes, major problems. It's going to be an up and down year. IDK how 363/2/2 is seen as a failure. Yes, the interceptions were bad, it's going to happen. We could very easily be 3-0. We of course could very easily be 0-3. This year was going to be a year to learn and grow, warts and all. Give him some time.
 

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I think it wouldn't have been bad out of hand for Bagent to start in week 1. Make rookies earn their reps, no qualms here. But right now, looking into week 4, these are the most valuable reps you can give to Williams and I don't value looking in the rearview mirror. These are the most competitive defenses he's had to play against, and the short time to make a good decision is crucial. Right now, this is valuable experience to grow from (NFL players seem to me to be the type to learn from doing). We are in "IF" territory. IF Williams was worth the pick invested in him, these are important lessons to learn from live fire. IF Williams was not, then we find out over the next two or three years, but his chances are maximized by investing these reps in him.

The difference between a strike at 40 yards and an ugly 5 yard overthrow is seriously 5 mph (presuming the difference between 45 MPH and 50 MPH at 6 ft tall, and a launch angle of 25 degrees and a flight time of 2 sec). That takes live fire to develop - practice doesn't cut it to me, given that practice is softer than in the day.

In the end though... did you have fun seeing any of the throws Williams DID make on Sunday? We got to see some big plays with some real zip
Watched quite a few games this week, didn’t see a throw from him no other nfl qb made this week. He made good throws, not sure that should be the bar however. The bar is his reading of defenses and he needs work. I would have thought as a number one overall to be able to do that day 1. Again, right now he is JF 2.0. You want us all to watch two years of bad play before making a change.
LOL JFC. It's week three. Do I need to unpack how many elite QBs sucked their rookie year? Caleb is making progress. It's not all his fault. I'm not worried about him AT ALL. OL? Yes, major problems. It's going to be an up and down year. IDK how 363/2/2 is seen as a failure. Yes, the interceptions were bad, it's going to happen. We could very easily be 3-0. We of course could very easily be 0-3. This year was going to be a year to learn and grow, warts and all. Give him some time.
Let's unpack how many number one overalls succeed!! How's Trevor Lawerence doing, 0-8 in his last eight!!!!! Bryce Young Benched!!!! yeah let's discuss your overrated rant!!! The only one that's done much is Joe Burrow, and now he's losing.
 
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just to remain the dick you think I am, why are you here if it isn't your team?

They keep stringing me along.
I doubt if I would've been if it wasn't for the #1 QB.

Even if it was Fields with The Haul I wanted I would probably be waiting to see while fishing. I barely watched last year. #1 even made me buy a new tuner card.
 

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They keep stringing me along.
I doubt if I would've been if it wasn't for the #1 QB.

Even if it was Fields with The Haul I wanted I would probably be waiting to see while fishing. I barely watched last year. #1 even made me buy a new tuner card.
I believe my own eyes and not some idiot on tv or radio. I utilized the QB analysis on youtube to provide me knowledge of the issue at QB with #1. He is still that way in Pittsburgh. Even though they won three in a row. They won by defense, not offense. And again, if you watch the tv and listen to the radio, it's all #1. The con game they use is really remarkable. Video doesn't lie.
 

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I completely agree with the Bagent should have started week one. Again, the arrogant prks here would have had a fking heart attack. Their number one overall is the greatest thing since slice bread and adapting to the faster NFL was a walk in the park and absolutely no issue for the great and powerful CW. After three weeks, they are factually wrong. He's played no better than any QB taken after him in the draft.
I don't and I like Bagent. It just delays CW development by a week. We're not winning the SB this year so as long as it doesn't crush the players psyche (which might mean you chose the wrong guy anyway), let him grow.
 

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I don't and I like Bagent. It just delays CW development by a week. We're not winning the SB this year so as long as it doesn't crush the players psyche (which might mean you chose the wrong guy anyway), let him grow.
I think we're going to win the SB every year, I am that fan!!! I expect improvements for my dollars and time. If you believe your time to watch isn't valuable enough to expect a winning season going to playoffs, that's on you. Bagent gave the veterans the best chance for that on week one. No matter the 40 million thrown at CW. CW was unproven, hadn't taken one hit from an NFL player. Bagent had, has and based on his performance last year earned a right to the week one job with that experience. Enough with the number one over all shit. It is a failure pick for QB. Historical records actually show this failure and yet the Bear fans think they will be the exception to the rule. I laugh, especially after the results of the first three weeks. CW is unproven. Aaron Rogers sat the bench, so did Love, so did Brady. To say that the only way for CW to succeed was to insert him without any experience. Stupid!!!!! Again, Trevor Lawrence is now 0-8 in his last 8 and Young was benched in NC. Both number one overalls. I know, you will now tell me how special CW is because you have no clue.
 
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