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When hacks like Scott get roster spots over skilled players, it's holding the sport back.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Variable" data-cid="212945" data-time="1383335684">
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When hacks like Scott get roster spots over skilled players, it's holding the sport back.</p>
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I hear things like this all of the time, is it really of concern to you whether the NHL expands? 30 teams is more than enough, stadiums are packed all around the league and the games are readily available on a national stage almost every night now. </p>
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I thoroughly enjoy where the NHL is at right now, and I hear "holding the sport back" a lot, holding the sport back from what exactly?</p>
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To me the product on the ice is <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;">unequivocally the greatest in the world, and the skilled players blow my mind every night with something new. The game is not being held back at all in my opinion.</span></p>
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When hacks like Scott get roster spots over skilled players, it's holding the sport back.</p>
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I hear things like this all of the time, is it really of concern to you whether the NHL expands? 30 teams is more than enough, stadiums are packed all around the league and the games are readily available on a national stage almost every night now. </p>
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I thoroughly enjoy where the NHL is at right now, and I hear "holding the sport back" a lot, holding the sport back from what exactly?</p>
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To me the product on the ice is <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;">unequivocally the greatest in the world, and the skilled players blow my mind every night with something new. The game is not being held back at all in my opinion.</span></p>
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Guys like Scott are slowly fazing out. Because Buffalo is terrible, they have to find guys like Scott to fill roster spots. Same thing the Hawks did with David Koci and Reed Low. Most teams "enforcers" play or can play a regular shift such as Thornton, Prust, Bollig, Neil, Crombeen, Carcillo, Dorsett, Englland, Boll, Rinaldo. You also have some skilled guys who play with that edge and will fight when needed such as Mike Richards, Lucic, Bickell, Downie, Stewart, Simmonds, Hartnell, J Thornton, Benn, Doan, Brown etc.
The game is evolving towards a more skilled roster that has rugged players willing to fight. An Enforce 2.0 type player. Look at guys who were drafted in the past few first rounds who are skilled and willing to drop the mitts such as McNeill, Beach, Tom Wilson, Dumba, Tyler Biggs, Gudbranson, McIllrath, Evander Kane, Brayden Schenn, Zack Kassian, Sam Morin, Darnell Nurse, Nikita Zadarov, Ryan Hartman.
The game is changing, just not as fast as some want it too.
The game is evolving towards a more skilled roster that has rugged players willing to fight. An Enforce 2.0 type player. Look at guys who were drafted in the past few first rounds who are skilled and willing to drop the mitts such as McNeill, Beach, Tom Wilson, Dumba, Tyler Biggs, Gudbranson, McIllrath, Evander Kane, Brayden Schenn, Zack Kassian, Sam Morin, Darnell Nurse, Nikita Zadarov, Ryan Hartman.
The game is changing, just not as fast as some want it too.
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This would help my understanding of where you are coming from: did you ever play hockey Variable and what was the highest level?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Trev" data-cid="212976" data-time="1383341312">
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Guys like Scott are slowly fazing out. Because Buffalo is terrible, they have to find guys like Scott to fill roster spots. Same thing the Hawks did with David Koci and Reed Low. Most teams "enforcers" play or can play a regular shift such as Thornton, Prust, Bollig, Neil, Crombeen, Carcillo, Dorsett, Englland, Boll, Rinaldo. You also have some skilled guys who play with that edge and will fight when needed such as Mike Richards, Lucic, Bickell, Downie, Stewart, Simmonds, Hartnell, J Thornton, Benn, Doan, Brown etc.
The game is evolving towards a more skilled roster that has rugged players willing to fight. An Enforce 2.0 type player. Look at guys who were drafted in the past few first rounds who are skilled and willing to drop the mitts such as McNeill, Beach, Tom Wilson, Dumba, Tyler Biggs, Gudbranson, McIllrath, Evander Kane, Brayden Schenn, Zack Kassian, Sam Morin, Darnell Nurse, Nikita Zadarov, Ryan Hartman.
The game is changing, just not as fast as some want it too.</p>
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No team today is terrible enough to have to sign a guy like John Scott. That signing was solely in response to all the stupid bullshit criticism stemming from Lucic bowling over Miller and how the Sabres weren't "tough enough" and that's why they crumbled. I guarantee you they have guys who would be more valuable to them that are on their AHL team (and would be more beneficial to them) to have up in Scott's place. And I don't even have to look to know that. That's how bad he is. As far as I'm concerned, Kaleta and Scott being suspended have made them a better team with their absences.</p>
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Guys like Scott are slowly fazing out. Because Buffalo is terrible, they have to find guys like Scott to fill roster spots. Same thing the Hawks did with David Koci and Reed Low. Most teams "enforcers" play or can play a regular shift such as Thornton, Prust, Bollig, Neil, Crombeen, Carcillo, Dorsett, Englland, Boll, Rinaldo. You also have some skilled guys who play with that edge and will fight when needed such as Mike Richards, Lucic, Bickell, Downie, Stewart, Simmonds, Hartnell, J Thornton, Benn, Doan, Brown etc.
The game is evolving towards a more skilled roster that has rugged players willing to fight. An Enforce 2.0 type player. Look at guys who were drafted in the past few first rounds who are skilled and willing to drop the mitts such as McNeill, Beach, Tom Wilson, Dumba, Tyler Biggs, Gudbranson, McIllrath, Evander Kane, Brayden Schenn, Zack Kassian, Sam Morin, Darnell Nurse, Nikita Zadarov, Ryan Hartman.
The game is changing, just not as fast as some want it too.</p>
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No team today is terrible enough to have to sign a guy like John Scott. That signing was solely in response to all the stupid bullshit criticism stemming from Lucic bowling over Miller and how the Sabres weren't "tough enough" and that's why they crumbled. I guarantee you they have guys who would be more valuable to them that are on their AHL team (and would be more beneficial to them) to have up in Scott's place. And I don't even have to look to know that. That's how bad he is. As far as I'm concerned, Kaleta and Scott being suspended have made them a better team with their absences.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="PSR" data-cid="212964" data-time="1383339843">
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I hear things like this all of the time, is it really of concern to you whether the NHL expands? 30 teams is more than enough, stadiums are packed all around the league and the games are readily available on a national stage almost every night now. </p>
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I thoroughly enjoy where the NHL is at right now, and I hear "holding the sport back" a lot, holding the sport back from what exactly?</p>
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To me the product on the ice is <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;">unequivocally the greatest in the world, and the skilled players blow my mind every night with something new. The game is not being held back at all in my opinion.</span></p>
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No, no that's not what I mean. If anything the NHL should probably lose a team or two. I wasn't talking about it in that way. When I say "hold the sport back" it's more cultural than anything. It's the example set to aspiring players by these GMs giving people like John Scott a NHL roster space. It tells them that even if you are a skilled player, that alone doesn't guarantee you a spot over much, much less skilled players. It tells them that one way, or a less skilled way, to get attention from a team is to play on or over the edge if need be. Because players have been getting rewarded for doing that in the past, why wouldn't young players looking eagerly for any opportunity not try that? The cause and effect of that idea, because it's being encouraged from the top of the mountain, from the NHL, goes through all levels of hockey and has the potential to be disastrous, especially for players who really honestly have no chance at all to play at the highest (or higher) level of the game, no matter how they play.</p>
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I hear things like this all of the time, is it really of concern to you whether the NHL expands? 30 teams is more than enough, stadiums are packed all around the league and the games are readily available on a national stage almost every night now. </p>
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I thoroughly enjoy where the NHL is at right now, and I hear "holding the sport back" a lot, holding the sport back from what exactly?</p>
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To me the product on the ice is <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;">unequivocally the greatest in the world, and the skilled players blow my mind every night with something new. The game is not being held back at all in my opinion.</span></p>
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No, no that's not what I mean. If anything the NHL should probably lose a team or two. I wasn't talking about it in that way. When I say "hold the sport back" it's more cultural than anything. It's the example set to aspiring players by these GMs giving people like John Scott a NHL roster space. It tells them that even if you are a skilled player, that alone doesn't guarantee you a spot over much, much less skilled players. It tells them that one way, or a less skilled way, to get attention from a team is to play on or over the edge if need be. Because players have been getting rewarded for doing that in the past, why wouldn't young players looking eagerly for any opportunity not try that? The cause and effect of that idea, because it's being encouraged from the top of the mountain, from the NHL, goes through all levels of hockey and has the potential to be disastrous, especially for players who really honestly have no chance at all to play at the highest (or higher) level of the game, no matter how they play.</p>
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This would help my understanding of where you are coming from: did you ever play hockey Variable and what was the highest level?</p>
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<span style="font-size:24px;">?</span></p>
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This would help my understanding of where you are coming from: did you ever play hockey Variable and what was the highest level?</p>
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Ray Emery just jumped Holtby and kicked the living shit out of him!!!</p>
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LINE BRAWL IN THE WASH/PHI GAME!!!!</p>
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Figures he would duck that one....
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Figures he would duck that one....
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Grimson" data-cid="212991" data-time="1383354895">
LINE BRAWL IN THE WASH/PHI GAME!!!!</p></blockquote>
Oh the humanity!!! They're ruining a boring game!!!! Think of the children!!!!
LINE BRAWL IN THE WASH/PHI GAME!!!!</p></blockquote>
Oh the humanity!!! They're ruining a boring game!!!! Think of the children!!!!
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Trev" data-cid="212993" data-time="1383356170">
Oh the humanity!!! They're ruining a boring game!!!! Think of the children!!!!</p></blockquote>
Emery is definitely getting suspended.
5:31 Ray Emery: 2 Minutes for Leaving Crease (Served by Claude Giroux)
5:31 Wayne Simmonds: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Tom Wilson
5:31 Steve Oleksy: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Vincent Lecavalier
5:31 Steve Oleksy: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Vincent Lecavalier: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Steve Oleksy
5:31 Vincent Lecavalier: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Tom Wilson: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Wayne Simmonds
5:31 Ray Emery: 2 Minutes for Instigator Braden Holtby (Served by Claude Giroux)
5:31 Ray Emery: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Braden Holtby
5:31 Ray Emery: 10 Minute Misconduct
5:31 Ray Emery: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Braden Holtby: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Ray Emery
5:31 Brayden Schenn: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Alexander Urbom
5:31 Brayden Schenn: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Alexander Urbom: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Brayden Schenn
5:31 Alexander Urbom: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Aaron Volpatti: 10 Minute Misconduct
Oh the humanity!!! They're ruining a boring game!!!! Think of the children!!!!</p></blockquote>
Emery is definitely getting suspended.
5:31 Ray Emery: 2 Minutes for Leaving Crease (Served by Claude Giroux)
5:31 Wayne Simmonds: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Tom Wilson
5:31 Steve Oleksy: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Vincent Lecavalier
5:31 Steve Oleksy: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Vincent Lecavalier: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Steve Oleksy
5:31 Vincent Lecavalier: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Tom Wilson: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Wayne Simmonds
5:31 Ray Emery: 2 Minutes for Instigator Braden Holtby (Served by Claude Giroux)
5:31 Ray Emery: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Braden Holtby
5:31 Ray Emery: 10 Minute Misconduct
5:31 Ray Emery: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Braden Holtby: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Ray Emery
5:31 Brayden Schenn: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Alexander Urbom
5:31 Brayden Schenn: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Alexander Urbom: 5 Minute Major for Fighting Brayden Schenn
5:31 Alexander Urbom: 10 Minute Game Misconduct
5:31 Aaron Volpatti: 10 Minute Misconduct
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Razor !!! :violence-smack:</p>
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Figures he would duck that one....</p>
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If SHE has ever played the game, it was a womens no-check league.</p>
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Figures he would duck that one....</p>
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If SHE has ever played the game, it was a womens no-check league.</p>
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Razor !!! :violence-smack:</p></blockquote>
Holtby didn't throw a punch... surprised he even got a fighting major.
Razor !!! :violence-smack:</p></blockquote>
Holtby didn't throw a punch... surprised he even got a fighting major.
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Emery deserves a suspension. I'm all for two guys fighting or going after a guy for being cheap, but Holtby declined the invite and Emery just pounded him for no reason besides getting shelled.
Wilson is starting to become another lucic in regards to the skill and snarl.
Wilson is starting to become another lucic in regards to the skill and snarl.
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Not surprising at all the way refs dole out penalty minutes.</p>
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That brawl ruined that game!! Did you not see all the Philly fans covering their eyes and turning away during it? It was holding the game back!!
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Trev" data-cid="213002" data-time="1383357703">
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That brawl ruined that game!! Did you not see all the Philly fans covering their eyes and turning away during it? It was holding the game back!!</p>
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I think the fans walked out of the game because of all of the violence... did you not see all those empty seats at the end?</p>
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That brawl ruined that game!! Did you not see all the Philly fans covering their eyes and turning away during it? It was holding the game back!!</p>
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I think the fans walked out of the game because of all of the violence... did you not see all those empty seats at the end?</p>
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BTW Why is Varlamov starting in goal tonight for the Avs?</p>
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Seriously... Roy... the Avs and the NHL thought that was a good idea?</p>
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Personally, I find it disgusting.</p>
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Seriously... Roy... the Avs and the NHL thought that was a good idea?</p>
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Personally, I find it disgusting.</p>
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