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Only thing the Flyers achieved  was by somehow making a 7-0 loss even more embarrassing for themselves.</p>
 

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To all the pro fighting fans here, was there anything at all honorable in what Emery did there? Because that wasn't a goalie fight. That was an assault. That was one dumbass skating the entirety of the rink looking to jump another guy (who never wanted to fight) for no reason whatsoever other than just because. Just because. And the worst part of it to me, the refs did nothing. They actively tried to stop other players  from breaking it up and stood and watched as Holtby got hit in the back of the head repeatedly while he was on the ice. And Emery actually got the third star. What was honorable in any of that?</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Variable" data-cid="213008" data-time="1383360216">
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To all the pro fighting fans here, was there anything at all honorable in what Emery did there? Because that wasn't a goalie fight. That was an assault. That was one dumbass skating the entirety of the rink looking to jump another guy (who never wanted to fight) for no reason whatsoever other than just because. Just because. And the worst part of it to me, the refs did nothing. They actively tried to stop other players  from breaking it up and stood and watched as Holtby got hit in the back of the head repeatedly while he was on the ice. And Emery actually got the third star. What was honorable in any of that?</p>
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Exceptions to every argument... although entertaining, I don't think anyone (myself included) condones what Emery did when Holtby clearly did not want to fight.</p>


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I don't know if you've ever been in a fight... but getting hit in the back of the head doesn't really hurt that much.  It hurts the guy's knuckles who is throwing the punches a lot more.</p>
 

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Exceptions to every argument... although entertaining, I don't think anyone (myself included) condones what Emery did when Holtby clearly did not want to fight.</p>


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I don't know if you've ever been in a fight... but getting hit in the back of the head doesn't really hurt that much.  It hurts the guy's knuckles who is throwing the punches a lot more.</p>
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I don't know if you've ever been in a fight... but getting hit in the back of the head doesn't really hurt that much.  It hurts the guy's knuckles who is throwing the punches a lot more.</p>
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Doesn't matter, he was in a completely defenseless position and the ref is actually more worried about other players stopping it rather than stopping it himself.  Goes without saying Emery has got to be suspended, but that ref has to be punished as well in some way, even if it's never reported or made public or however the NHL deals with it. That's fucking ridiculous.</p>
 

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Didn't someone already mention that Emery should be suspended? I am too lazy to go back a few pages and look for it.... but I agree with that.</p>


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This brawl was dumb overall. You're down 7-0, at home, and you have 3 wins in 11 games. Your team sucks.</p>


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Oh well, I'm still laughing at the Flyers. What a shitty organization! I just wish we could have seen the Caps beat the shit out of them in that brawl, rather than the other way around.</p>
 

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But they're showing how tough they are! This is the fire that the Flyers have been searching for!</p>


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Again dodging my simple question of if you ever played the game Variable.


And no, I didn't agree with what Emery did. I said he should get suspended. That wasn't two willing combatants, that was a mugging and it was wrong.
 

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According to Twitter Emery told the press he skated down the ice and told Holtby that "he better protect himself" and "I gave him a chance to protect himself".


Emery is a POS.
 

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Again dodging my simple question of if you ever played the game Variable.


And no, I didn't agree with what Emery did. I said he should get suspended. That wasn't two willing combatants, that was a mugging and it was wrong.</p>
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I've answered that question before, I played in high school. It's irrelevant to this. In no other sport except hockey does any kind of  argument begin with something like "Well in my men's rec league..."  and not get immediately laughed off. There is no comparison. Another completely flawed way of thinking in this debate.</p>
 

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I've answered that question before, I played in high school. It's irrelevant to this. In no other sport except hockey does any kind of argument begin with something like "Well in my men's rec league..." and not get immediately laughed off. There is no comparison. Another completely flawed way of thinking in this debate.</p></blockquote>


No, it's not flawed. My question was based on what your experience with the game was. Always curious to hear what an anti-fighting proponents background with the game is and where they possibly are coming from. It's amazing how you are so quick to assume when in fact I actually try and look at it from a different persons perspective.


Regardless, I'm sick of debating with you on the merits of fighting in hockey. YOU feel it's not important in the game, I feel it is. There is no end to this argument and to be honest I'm tired of going back and forth as it always comes full circle.


The real answer is we won't don't know what will happen if fighting is banned from hockey. I feel I am right and while I am 99% certain, it doesn't really matter.


It's in the game. It's not going anywhere until the players agree for it to be banned. No matter what you or any other anti fighting proponent wants, it's at this time here to stay.
 

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Look at other people's posts in response to that question and you'll know why I'm quick to assume  when that question is asked. It's happened too many times before.</p>
 

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Look at other people's posts in response to that question and you'll know why I'm quick to assume when that question is asked. It's happened too many times before.</p></blockquote>


Fair enough and I too believe it's a fair question in some aspects. I've never played pro hockey, but in leagues (college) that don't allow it. I've seen the rampant lack of respect and awful dirty play that comes with it.
 

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My organized hockey experience is limited to my few minutes of ice time next weekend, but I hate hockey fights. They don't settle scores, don't police the game, and don't ever provide momentum or energy to any team.


I base my opinion on 35+ years of watching.
 

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My organized hockey experience is limited to my few minutes of ice time next weekend, but I hate hockey fights. They don't settle scores, don't police the game, and don't ever provide momentum or energy to any team.


I base my opinion on 35+ years of watching.</p>
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So fighting has been a part of the game for your whole 35+ years of watching....</p>


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....... and you're still watching.</p>


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ITS A PART OF THE GAME LIKE IT OR HATE IT</p>
 

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I think fighting serves a purpose/has a place in this game.   Having said that the Philly line brawl and what Emory did are not that purpose and will just give the anti fight crowd more to complain about.   That was just stupid last night.    Emory is going to get 3 or more games.</p>
 

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I think fighting serves a purpose/has a place in this game.   Having said that the Philly line brawl and what Emory did are not that purpose and will just give the anti fight crowd more to complain about.   That was just stupid last night.    Emory is going to get 3 or more games.</p>
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Not while its run by the chickenshits who run the Department of Player Safety. In a perfect NHL, it would be.... but while the Count is running the Puppet Show, it won't be.</p>


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I expect 1 game and no more. Emery might even just get a slap on the wrist..... </p>
 
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