2013-14 NHL Season Discussion

[the canadian dream]

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Honest question... can they handle him being American?</p>
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they wont welcome him because he is a goalie.</p>

 

[roshinaya]

Pens hire Jim Rutherford as their new GM. He used to be the Canes GM before. As expected Bylsma was fired. Shame it wasn't Pierre McGuire as was rumored, but this is equally as bad. So that's nice for non-Pens fans.

 

[MassHavoc]

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Pens hire Jim Rutherford as their new GM. He used to be the Canes GM before. As expected Bylsma was fired. Shame it wasn't Pierre McGuire as was rumored, but this is equally as bad. So that's nice for non-Pens fans.</p>
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Maybe they are going to hire penis head to coach.</p>

 

[roshinaya]

McGuire apparently wanted a longer term than the Pens wanted to give him, so they went with Rutherford who will be there for 2-3 years. It seems McGuire egomania hasn't subsided since the last time he was in a position working for a NHL team. Still thinks he's hot shit even when he hasn't been involved with hockey on the inside in 20 years. What a doofus.

 

[CLWolf81]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="roshinaya" data-cid="231841" data-time="1402075472">
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Pens hire Jim Rutherford as their new GM. He used to be the Canes GM before. As expected Bylsma was fired. Shame it wasn't Pierre McGuire as was rumored, but this is equally as bad. So that's nice for non-Pens fans.</p>
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As I read, he's there to groom his next replacement, similar to how he trained Ron Francis to be the next GM in Carolina.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Maybe they are going to hire penis head to coach.</p>
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HAHAHAHAHAH can you imagine the coach interviews during the game?  THey would take all period.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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[the canadian dream]

Spezza has demanded a trade.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

Blue Jackets Not Fucking Around With Ryan Johansen Contract Negotiations

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Wow, to turn down some of those offers, especially at his age and total body of work is foolish by him.

 

[Variable]

Depends on how you look at it.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

You mean his agent getting more $?


This is a guy with:
- 189 total NHL games played
- 47 career goals (33 last season)
- 49 career assists (30 last season)
- 96 career points (63 last season)


If he is turning down $5.33 mil/year avg for 6 years or $5.75 mil/year avg for 8 years with his current body of work, he is a dope. Nothing guarantees that what he did last season can be repeated. And at 22, the 6 year puts him at 28 for his next contract...and there is still the possibility of an extension if he continues at that level and the cap significantly has gone up by then.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

This looks to be bad advice from an agent blinded by dollars $$$ </p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Trade Hossa for Johanssen!</p>

 

[Tater]

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Trade Hossa for Johanssen!</p>
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Trade you for Frank G.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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Trade you for Frank G.</p>
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Trade you for Kerfuffle.</p>

 

[Tater]

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Trade you for Kerfuffle.</p>
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Now you've gone too far.</p>


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[Variable]

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You mean his agent getting more $?



This is a guy with:

- 189 total NHL games played

- 47 career goals (33 last season)

- 49 career assists (30 last season)

- 96 career points (63 last season)



If he is turning down $5.33 mil/year avg for 6 years or $5.75 mil/year avg for 8 years with his current body of work, he is a dope. Nothing guarantees that what he did last season can be repeated. And at 22, the 6 year puts him at 28 for his next contract...and there is still the possibility of an extension if he continues at that level and the cap significantly has gone up by then.</p>
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Depends on if you want to look more on the buisness side of it, which just about every player does. He's a 6'4 two way center. If he continues to improve off last year, both those longer contracts are way under market, especially that 8 year deal. That's giving up, what, 4 years of UFA?   His best bet would probably be taking the bridge deal, even though thats a bit under market as well.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Under market for his current body of work?!? Sure he has potential, but he has to show it consistently; which he has not as of yet to warrant top tier pay. $5.33+ mil/year is still a large amount for this league, and for the foreseeable future. That is the business side of it.

So what if there are 4 years of "lost" UFA, that is guaranteed top level money now and for the long run. He will still be 28 after that 6 year deal and still young enough to get a much bigger payday if he shows that potential. Even with the 8 year contract (Pavelski got a +$2 mil long term bump to $6 mill at age 30 for example).

 

[Variable]

Nah by that time 5m something for a top line center, one in his mold and continuing to grow in skill, would be a steal. And you especially can't compare past contracts signed under different cap circumstances, different CBA, etc.