2014: Two 1st Round Picks + Cap Room

[ChiSoxCity]

Given current events, the Bulls absolutely must move Deng for a 1st round pick and an expiring contract. They will by default tank the rest of the season, giving them two 1st rounders, plus the Charlotte pick and cap space to sign a free agent next year. The options get even sweeter if they trade Noah for yet another 1st round pick and some expiring contracts, and amnesty Boozer. When the dust settles, the Bulls could be sitting pretty with four 1 round picks and $$Millions off the books to start the 2014 season. With Rose coming back and Mirotic floating out there, this team could get better faster than anyone thought possible. It's time to turn the page...

 

[1COBearsfan]

I'm not too familiar with trade situations in the NBA but would anyone give up a 1st rounder for both Noah and Deng? I mean realistically speaking, I would be totally cool with it if it's a real possibility.

 

[Scoot26]

I'm not too familiar with trade situations in the NBA but would anyone give up a 1st rounder for both Noah and Deng? I mean realistically speaking, I would be totally cool with it if it's a real possibility.

Salaries would have to match for the trade to happen unless they have cap room.. So the team receiving Noah and Deng would need send back 25 million in salaries unless they are under the cap and can take the salaries.

 

[ChettheJet]

Salaries would have to match for the trade to happen unless they have cap room.. So the team receiving Noah and Deng would need send back 25 million in salaries unless they are under the cap and can take the salaries.

And maybe some internet GM could identify the team that would trade a first round pick for Noah and Deng that has $25 million in expiring contracts.


This is all stupid talk, get 4 first round picks and have the best college sophomore team in the nation, that's going to draw some incredible FA interest all right. Because the best of the best love rebuilding.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

And maybe some internet GM could identify the team that would trade a first round pick for Noah and Deng that has $25 million in expiring contracts.


This is all stupid talk, get 4 first round picks and have the best college sophomore team in the nation, that's going to draw some incredible FA interest all right. Because the best of the best love rebuilding.

Nah, what's stupid talk is keeping this team as is, which has attracted ZERO FA interest for years running. Deng is better than anything you're going to get with the #10 thru 20 pick for a bad team. Same thing for Noah. They are both experienced vets with tons of leadership and work ethic, something that is in short supply around the league.

 

[ChettheJet]

I found this

http://www1.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

which details the draft picks owed and traded away and it is a big a mish mash of protected this far down one year to the next. So many teams have traded their 1st round picks I don't how you would know if the pick the Bulls get back would be protected until the season is over and you know who is in the lottery.

 

[RoseMVP1]

Teams would trade a 1st for either of those guys, or both, but more than likely that would come from playoff teams or teams that can make the playoffs via an upgrade. It would just be higher picks.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

Yeah, the NBA is shady with it's draft pick system. I won't even attempt to get into that argument. I'm just saying if I were the Bulls GM, I would be looking for trade partners who have tons of young players and need veteran leadership. Mid to low level 1st round picks in the NBA are a crapshoot at best for impact players unlike most sports. So yeah, expecting a lottery pick is unrealistic, but a mid to late round pick, depending on who gets packaged, is a possibility.

 

[WindyCity]

Noah would bring back a lot, there are simply not a lot of good centres.

The problem is that it would be from a contender and the 27th pick is not worth anything to us, we need a contender who is holding someone else's pick that they will move to us.

 

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Noah would bring back a lot, there are simply not a lot of good centres.

The problem is that it would be from a contender and the 27th pick is not worth anything to us, we need a contender who is holding someone else's pick that they will move to us.

Which will not happen because of the top talent in this upcoming draft.

Our best bet is to move Deng for a 1st round pick. If we tank to get in the lottery, we have a chance (1.7% got us Rose) to secure a top 3 pick. If the ping pong balls don't go our way for a top 3 selection.......we could package our lottery pick, the 1st round pick from a Deng trade, & the Charlotte 1st round pick to move into the top 3 of this upcoming draft.

 

[PolarBear]

The only realistic option I see where we can send Deng is Charlotte - They have the expiring salaries, the need for veteran leadership, the need for a player to remain in playoff contention and multiple 1st round picks in this year's draft...

Chicago Bulls send - Luol Deng

Charlotte Bobcats send - Ben Gordon and Portland's 1st round pick this year which is 1-12 protected in 2014, 1-12 protected in 2015 and unprotected in 2016.

Portland's pick right now would be 28th.

 

[Crystallas]

I'm just saying if I were the Bulls GM, I would be looking for trade partners who have tons of young players and need veteran leadership. Mid to low level 1st round picks in the NBA are a crapshoot at best for impact players unlike most sports.

Who exactly do you expect will make this trade?

 

[ChiSoxCity]

Who exactly do you expect will make this trade?

Young teams who have no realistic shot at Parker, Wiggins or Randle, and who are trying to make the playoffs. These teams should be looking to acquire a veteran player who can fill the stat sheet and provide experience and leadership. Cleveland and Charlotte come to mind, maybe Toronto. I haven't looked at the standings lately (for obvious reasons). Plus middle to late 1st round picks rarely produce immediate impact players, so a trade for Deng is a prudent move.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Deng to the Cavs seems like the most realistic scenario based off of what I've seen. Cavs have a hole at SF that Deng could fill and I saw on NBA.com that they were inquiring about him. If so, I say try to grab a 1st rounder out of that deal if nothing else. Take back some crappy player to fill salary space as needed.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

They are both experienced vets with tons of leadership and work ethic, something that is in short supply around the league.

If there's such a short supply of players like that and we got them already, why give Em up for crap and no garenties with Draft pics when the lottery ball spins....Plus we would be stuck with garbage players we get in return in the trades to match salaries...And why in the Hell would teams want to give up there high Draft pics for Deng when he's a free agent after this season...L.O.L

 

[houheffna]

This is supposed to be one of the best drafts of the last 30 years. Deng is not good enough to garner that type of attention. You are not going to get a first round pick AND an expiring contract (which holds a lot of value) for Deng. If you get a first round pick, you will get 15mil worth of garbage (think Ben Wallace to Cleveland), and it won't be expiring. But Deng isn't good enough to garner both. Neither is Noah that valuable in my opinion.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

If there's such a short supply of players like that and we got them already, why give Em up for crap and no garenties with Draft pics when the lottery ball spins....Plus we would be stuck with garbage players we get in return in the trades to match salaries...And why in the Hell would teams want to give up there high Draft pics for Deng when he's a free agent after this season...L.O.L

There are numerous reasons why the Deng trade needs to happen. First, his contract expires at the end of the year, which means you have to pay him veteran money to stick around. Which bring me to the next reason; the Bulls are tapped out salary wise. This means they have no zero flexibility to acquire top free agents. They can't improve the bench much either, except to bring in marginal players which is wasteful. This team simply isn't good enough, with or without Derrick Rose, to win a championship, and it isn't worth the $78MIL being spent on it.

The only way to get better is to acquire draft picks and free up salary space. Deng has trade value; if we let him walk at the end of the season, we get nothing for him. If we give him a new contract, we lose any chance at high caliber free agents in the next few years, like Love, Aldridge or Randolph. Failing to acquire draft picks comprimises the future of the franchise. I could go on for hours talking about this, but hopefully you get where I'm coming from.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

If there's such a short supply of players like that and we got them already, why give Em up for crap and no garenties with Draft pics when the lottery ball spins....Plus we would be stuck with garbage players we get in return in the trades to match salaries...And why in the Hell would teams want to give up there high Draft pics for Deng when he's a free agent after this season...L.O.L

Also, any "crap" players the Bulls acquire for Deng would have expiring contracts, meaning we can let them go at the end of the season.

And I never said anything about "high" draft picks. Middle to late first round picks aren't that valuable. A team like Cleveland doesn't need any more young players who need development. They need experienced impact players who can contribute right away and help them make the playoffs.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

This is supposed to be one of the best drafts of the last 30 years. Deng is not good enough to garner that type of attention. You are not going to get a first round pick AND an expiring contract (which holds a lot of value) for Deng. If you get a first round pick, you will get 15mil worth of garbage (think Ben Wallace to Cleveland), and it won't be expiring. But Deng isn't good enough to garner both. Neither is Noah that valuable in my opinion.

What are you talking about? Deng is worth a 10-25 first round pick. Especially for teams who have been drafting a lot of 1st rounders in previous years, and don't want any more project players. These teams don't need any more young players sitting on the bench waiting their turn, they want seasoned vets who can play and provide mentorship in the locker room.

Who are you projecting will still be there and too good to pass up after the first 10 picks? And please think about this before you respond, I'm not interested in getting in another pissing contest with you.

 

[sicko]

Some of you are looking to basically REBUILD and bring in MORE YOUNG PLAYERS and hoping they develop. I doubt that is the route the Bulls Organization wants to go, if anything I think they would like to add a STAR VETERAN than to depend on Wiggins or Parker to develop and become that other star with a healthy Rose

Tanking is not going to happen and I don't see a team who could be in position for Wiggins or Parker themselves, giving up that pick for Deng

Bulls would have to take on a contract like Eric Gordon, DeMar DeRozan, Marcus Thorton someone like that, then you might get back a 1st Round pick from a potential Lottery Team!