2016 PFF draft grades

[NCChiFan]

Love the value they got from 3rd to 7th round, but not really excited with Round 1 & 2, why, because you should draft Day 1 starters there, and IMO, OLB Floyd and G Whitehair seem more like projects.

And if you miss on early rounds, blue chip talent, then you basically missed on complete Draft.

Floyd could start in a sub package, and you never know, the Bears could start a game in a sub package look... (Shrugs) I get what you're saying though. And that does bother me a bit about this pick. Tunsil and the Jack delemna really messed up the draft for our Bears.

 

[vincentvega]

USA Today's opinion, B+ for our Bears.

Really good grades all around thus far. I am curious to see who grades us poorly and their rationale for doing so. That being said I haven't seen lower than a B grade yet. There has to be something to all the pundits and analysts agreeing that we had a good draft. Really hoping it translates on the field and to wins. Something really feels different about our Bears under this regime..

Emery never slept..maybe Pace has been getting some good nights sleep and it manifests itself in better decision making


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[NCChiFan]

Still have not heard a bad review. Yates at ESPN Sportscaster this am had the Bears in his top 3-4 team drafts this year.

 

[Bearfanfromnewjersey]

All i know is bill pollian says floyd was the perfect pick for the bears. Hall of famer and former gm for 2-3 teams. Ill take his opinion over anyones

 

[mattb78]

OLB Floyd and G Whitehair seem more like projects.

Dude, Floyd will need some coaching but Whitehair is ready to go.

 

[Washington]

Love the value they got from 3rd to 7th round, but not really excited with Round 1 & 2, why, because you should draft Day 1 starters there, and IMO, OLB Floyd and G Whitehair seem more like projects.

And if you miss on early rounds, blue chip talent, then you basically missed on complete Draft.

Floyd is for sure a project and was the dissappointing move to me, especially trading up. He's a project who didn't deliver all that much in college. He won't be beating out Houston and his 8 sacks. He won't be beating out McPhee either. I'd have been content staying put and taking Rankins. We need depth on the DL too. I do like Whitehair and he'll be playing a long time and is versatile. However, I'm taking Mackensie Alexander at 41 and he'd have been great value there. Guards are so much easier to find in the later rounds. Bush is meh to me. I like DeAndre Houston-Carson better.

 

[Burrberry]

Floyd is for sure a project and was the dissappointing move to me, especially trading up. He's a project who didn't deliver all that much in college. He won't be beating out Houston and his 8 sacks. He won't be beating out McPhee either. I'd have been content staying put and taking Rankins. We need depth on the DL too. I do like Whitehair and he'll be playing a long time and is versatile. However, I'm taking Mackensie Alexander at 41 and he'd have been great value there. Guards are so much easier to find in the later rounds. Bush is meh to me. I like DeAndre Houston-Carson better.

His college stats were mediocre because Georgia literally had this guy lined up everywhere and his stats took a hit for it. He's THAT talented. Give him a chance when he doesn't have to do anyone else's job, but rush the passer and occasionally drop into coverage.

I liked this guy's assessment starting at 15:20 the first thing he says "I thought he was an edge guy"

[video=youtube;TWP20SgzdUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWP20SgzdUg[/video]

 

[Josh2J]

another A grade

Chicago Bears

1 (9). Georgia OLB Leonard Floyd
2 (56). Kansas State G/C Cody Whitehair
3 (72). Florida DE Jonathan Bullard
4 (113). West Virginia ILB Nick Kwiatkoski
4 (124). Miami (FL) S Deon Bush
4 (127). Northern Iowa CB Deiondre' Hall
5 (150). Indiana RB Jordan Howard
6 (185). William & Mary S DeAndre Houston-Carson
7 (230). Western Michigan WR Daniel Braverman

Overview: Bears GM Ryan Pace wanted Floyd badly, sending a fourth-round pick (106) to Tampa Bay to climb just two slots and steal Floyd ahead of the Giants. Pace stayed active on day two, trading down and securing Buffalo's fourth-round pick in 2017. In addition to reeling off consistent value picks, Pace attacked needy areas on his roster and stockpiled quality football players who were productive in college. What Floyd lacks in floor he makes up for in ceiling as a long-armed, versatile edge player with the most explosive get-off in the draft. Whitehair needs to get stronger, but he profiles as a starting guard in a year or two. Bullard was one of the top value picks in the draft and legitimately could start as a rookie. A downhill bruiser at 6-foot, 230, it wouldn't shock me if Howard emerged as the Bears' lead ball carrier at some point this year. In Kwiatkoski, Hall, and Houston-Carson, Chicago added year-one special teams contributors with a chance to become more down the line. After having only six picks in his first draft, I think sophomore GM Pace hit a homerun here. It should also be noted that the 2016 Bears should finally get a fully-healthy Kevin White.

Grade: A-

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Love the value they got from 3rd to 7th round, but not really excited with Round 1 & 2, why, because you should draft Day 1 starters there, and IMO, OLB Floyd and G Whitehair seem more like projects.

And if you miss on early rounds, blue chip talent, then you basically missed on complete Draft.

Seeing that most drafts have between 2 and 5 blue chip players, most teams must miss on complete drafts every year.

Seeing that the 3 of the 4 (Tunsil, Ramsey, Smith, and Jack) blue chip players of this draft were all taken later, then the top of the draft must have missed on their complete drafts too.

Most people who are not happy with the draft are looking at the draft the wrong way. They only look at year one and how a draft pick can fill a hole on the team. That is a need-based draft philosophy which is usually what keeps you in the middle of the pack for eternity.

The Best Available Player draft strategy is the one that will more often allow you to get special players. Champions win with special players. NFL network talked about how Seattle drafted their special defensive backfield in the later rounds (Sherman and Chanceller). They drafted by what they thought were players who were special in their eyes, not what the talking heads were selling them as special.

Now Fangio gets someone who is very similar to Aldon Smith who he had as a rookie, and you are not excited about what he can do with him? Remember that it was Fangio who probably (no, I wasn't there) pushed really hard for him because he saw enough talent in him to see what he could become.

As for Whitehair, he is probably the safest pick the Bears made. You only look at this year (oh, Slauson is awesome. Why would Whitehair get drafted to replace him this year?). Now if you look at it intellligently, you would see that, at worst he is an injury replacement for every single starter. Think of that. At worst, he is a swing everything.

As we move on from worst case, he can be a solid 6th lineman on some running plays. You saw that the Bears ran a lot of that over the years.

And the best case would be that he is part of the 5 best, perhaps with Slauson playing center.

Also, consider 1 year from now when Slauson is gone. We don't have to wonder. We have his replacement on the team. One less hole to fill.

And with your draft strategy, you would probably reach to fill that hole.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Floyd is for sure a project and was the dissappointing move to me, especially trading up. He's a project who didn't deliver all that much in college.

Thank God you aren't our gm.

You say he didn't deliver in college. Do you know why? He was moved around a lot and was given responsibilities that weren't rushing the passer. The coaching staff moved him, not because he was bad, but rather because the rest of the defense wasn't as good and he could cover up some of their weaknesses.

So the Bears knew the reason why he was moved around and, thus, why he was not as effective with the sack numbers. They also knew that he became more versatile while moving around.

In a 3-4, an OLB has more responsibilities than just rushing the passer. Part of that is coverage. Floyd shows natural ability in coverage. His only weakness is actual weakness. He needs to add 10-15 lbs of muscle without losing speed. Do you think that the Bears, with a strength coach and a sports science department (found out yesterday that the Bears had such a department) can't get him to add those 10 lbs in 5 months?

And as for trading up, if we don't know history, we are doomed to repeat it.

Sadly, that history is the past two drafts.

2014 draft - The top person on the Bears' board was Aaron Donald. They were giddy like schoolgirls as the team before them gets on the clock only to see them draft him.

2015 draft - The top person on the Bears' board was Leonard Williams. They were giddy like schoolgirls as the team before them gets on the clock only to see them draft him.

2016 draft - The top person on the Bears' board was Floyd. They knew that the team before them wanted to draft him, so they traded up to get Floyd.

 

[truthbedamned]

Love the value they got from 3rd to 7th round, but not really excited with Round 1 & 2, why, because you should draft Day 1 starters there, and IMO, OLB Floyd and G Whitehair seem more like projects.

And if you miss on early rounds, blue chip talent, then you basically missed on complete Draft.

How can Whitehair be considered a project? Started 4 years at 3 positions and missed one game?

With his combination of functional strength and body control, Whitehair might be one of the safest offensive linemen in the entire draft. He will almost assuredly be bumped inside to guard, but could be considered at center as well. He has the confidence and talent to start right away and his run blocking should improve as he gets more comfortable firing out from a three-*point stance. Whitehair has the ability to be a very good starter with a ceiling that could reach the all-pro level.

I certianly don't see a reach here in the least

 

[Burque]

2 - Browns and Jacksonville

Jacksonville is building a Championship team

This is so true the jags just look like straight monsters on defense.....

I seriously wonder how they are going to manage to screw it up like they typically do.

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[dabears70]

It was a pretty solid draft. There may have been some risks/reaches but the tremendous value they got for Bullard, Hall, Howard, & even Braverman far exceed any missteps or scrambles the Bears may have ran into. Even the picks that were questionable: Floyd, Whitehair, Kwiatkoski, Bush come with great talent & upside and given the Bears coaching staff – this draft could produce some quality starters.

A- or B+
is about the right grade. Pace & the Bears did a pretty good job of adding competition to both sides of the ball.

Excited for the damn season to start already!

Questionable to who?? I mean people on a message board need to stop questioning what our GM or any GM in the NFL do cause the only thing you know about these kids is what you hear or see on the internet and tv and i'm pretty sure that there's a whole hell of a lot more into knowing what these kids can do then what anyone on here knows. Could you imagine if GM's did their drafting off of the way we see these kids?? Pace is a smart guy and has a smart team of coaches and scouts helping him evaluate these kids on a much deeper level then any of us can do.

 

[Burque]

That all depends on Bortles taking the next level. I am not sold on him.

Yea, buy they took Allen who I think can be a starter in this league. So I think they are even beginning to build a qb contingent plan.... That is one thing that would be nice for us to do.

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[modo]

on the surface mast people seem to think this was a very solid draft.....

only time will tell.

Everyone is confused by the first round pick but I think he will be the best part of the draft.....speed rushers is what Fangio makes his living on.

 

[dabears70]

on the surface mast people seem to think this was a very solid draft.....

only time will tell.

Everyone is confused by the first round pick but I think he will be the best part of the draft.....speed rushers is what Fangio makes his living on.

And we have some clowns on here that judge what Pace is doing from sitting behind a fucking message board........CLOWNS.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

His college stats were mediocre because Georgia literally had this guy lined up everywhere and his stats took a hit for it. He's THAT talented. Give him a chance when he doesn't have to do anyone else's job, but rush the passer and occasionally drop into coverage.

I liked this guy's assessment starting at 15:20 the first thing he says "I thought he was an edge guy"

[video=youtube;TWP20SgzdUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWP20SgzdUg[/video]

Exactly what i was going to say. I don't think that Georgia used him very effectively and asked him to do to much. He lived in the backfield though.

 

[BringBackDitka54]

USA Today's opinion, B+ for our Bears.

Fuck USA Today.

 

[Washington]

Thank God you aren't our gm.

You say he didn't deliver in college. Do you know why? He was moved around a lot and was given responsibilities that weren't rushing the passer. The coaching staff moved him, not because he was bad, but rather because the rest of the defense wasn't as good and he could cover up some of their weaknesses.

So the Bears knew the reason why he was moved around and, thus, why he was not as effective with the sack numbers. They also knew that he became more versatile while moving around.

In a 3-4, an OLB has more responsibilities than just rushing the passer. Part of that is coverage. Floyd shows natural ability in coverage. His only weakness is actual weakness. He needs to add 10-15 lbs of muscle without losing speed. Do you think that the Bears, with a strength coach and a sports science department (found out yesterday that the Bears had such a department) can't get him to add those 10 lbs in 5 months?

It's just me but I sort of expect the 9th pick in the draft to not have as many question marks as Floyd has and this is from many scouts. He's lean and weak and he flat out didn't produce that often in college and I'm not just talking sacks. He was drafted based on potential due to his speed. That speed alone won't kill without strength too and he lacks that right now. To me, he is a project and one guy being mocked to us that I did not want. If we were going to draft on potential and not get a day 1 starter, like Tunsil would have been, my pick is at QB. I hope I am wrong and that Floyd gets stronger and turns out to be a star, but he's going to need to improve a lot in order to earn a starting role. Right now, he's nothing more than a situational pass rusher for us. Rankin would have been a day 1 starter and someone strong against the run who could still get up field. I think Kwiatkoski out produced Floyd in college but Floyd does have a higher ceiling but he does have a lower floor too. Time will tell.

 

[DrGonzo]

Prisco's contribution. Spoiler alert: it's an A, which is weird because I seem to remember most of his round by round grades being Bs.

Chicago Bears

Best pick:*Third-round pick*Jonathan Bullard*is a player who will start for a long time in this league. He plays hard, can play inside or outside, and was productive in college. The Bears got a good one.

Questionable move:*Taking*Leonard Floyd*in the first round. I know they see him as an elite pass-rush prospect, but I don't see it. I think he's more of a Jamie Collins type of player.

Third-day gem:*Fourth-round safety*Deon Bush*is a great pick. He is a player who can run and can hit. Sometimes he went too much for the big hit, but he can be a nice player in their defense.

Analysis:*I really like what Ryan Pace did in this draft. It will be defined by what Floyd becomes, but the rest of the draft was loaded with really good players. Bullard will become the best player of the group. There are a lot of other talented players in this draft haul.

Grade: A