2016's Around Major League Baseball

[beckdawg]

Dee Gordon just got suspended 80 games for PED's

Miami only had like a 14.7% chance of making the playoffs according to fangraphs. Wonder if they make Fernandez available as was rumored some what in the offseason. Not entirely sure he'd be the guy the cubs want all things being equal but another young starter being available does help with price.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Dee Gordon just got suspended 80 games for PED's

Some players just won't learn. This isn't the Tour de France.

 

[brett05]

Miami only had like a 14.7% chance of making the playoffs according to fangraphs. Wonder if they make Fernandez available as was rumored some what in the offseason. Not entirely sure he'd be the guy the cubs want all things being equal but another young starter being available does help with price.

To get Fernandez would ruin the MLB core that the Cubs have right now. I don't see it happening.

 

[SilenceS]

It would take a 3 team trade. You are looking at Baez, Soler, Edwards, plus another young pitcher, and probably another throw in. Baez would instantly start at third for them and would probably slot behind Stanton in the lineup. Soler would start in left and move Yelich to Center and it gives them the option to shop Ozuna for the third team. It would cost a ton.

They asked the Red Sox for Mookie Betts plus and the Red Sox shot them down. I think it depends on what is offered, but I think thats the best the Cubs would or could do. They aren't giving up Russell, Rizzo, or Bryant. Schwarber isn't going to be traded hurt. It makes no sense and they don't have that top of the line pitching prospect.

 

[brett05]

It would take a 3 team trade. You are looking at Baez, Soler, Edwards, plus another young pitcher, and probably another throw in. Baez would instantly start at third for them and would probably slot behind Stanton in the lineup. Soler would start in left and move Yelich to Center and it gives them the option to shop Ozuna for the third team. It would cost a ton.

They asked the Red Sox for Mookie Betts plus and the Red Sox shot them down. I think it depends on what is offered, but I think thats the best the Cubs would or could do. They aren't giving up Russell, Rizzo, or Bryant. Schwarber isn't going to be traded hurt. It makes no sense and they don't have that top of the line pitching prospect.

I agree, it would take a three team trade because they won't want to part with the core. But for Fernandez they'd be silly to take less than two guys that are at least the quality of Russell.

 

[beckdawg]

To get Fernandez would ruin the MLB core that the Cubs have right now. I don't see it happening.

Keep in mind I wasn't necessarily suggesting the cubs would be trading for him. It was more a case that if he's available and the cubs want to trade for a pitcher that makes everyone else who may be available some what cheap in theory because supply and demand.

 

[beckdawg]

It would take a 3 team trade. You are looking at Baez, Soler, Edwards, plus another young pitcher, and probably another throw in. Baez would instantly start at third for them and would probably slot behind Stanton in the lineup. Soler would start in left and move Yelich to Center and it gives them the option to shop Ozuna for the third team. It would cost a ton.

They asked the Red Sox for Mookie Betts plus and the Red Sox shot them down. I think it depends on what is offered, but I think thats the best the Cubs would or could do. They aren't giving up Russell, Rizzo, or Bryant. Schwarber isn't going to be traded hurt. It makes no sense and they don't have that top of the line pitching prospect.

As I said above I'm necessarily suggesting the cubs would be trading for him. That being said, if the cubs were going to move for him I sorta think you'd be looking at more Baez and maybe Torres. Adeiny Hechavarria isn't really a thrilling SS and I believe they are currently running Martin Prado at 3B. Prado's a FA after this year. Hechavarria has like 3 more years til FA. It might take more than that as you mention but that to me would make more sense than a 3 team deal to me personally. You could then play Baez at 3B and you have Torres waiting in the wings.

 

[brett05]

Keep in mind I wasn't necessarily suggesting the cubs would be trading for him. It was more a case that if he's available and the cubs want to trade for a pitcher that makes everyone else who may be available some what cheap in theory because supply and demand.

I don't think I am reading this correctly

 

[beckdawg]

I don't think I am reading this correctly

Basically I was suggesting if Fernandez is available that means presumably him being traded takes one team looking to buy out of the market for any other pitcher that would be available. I'm not certain Fernandez is the type of pitcher the cubs would want anyways so if that's the case it's not really a loss to them and you're talking about fewer teams for the remaining players.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Garrett Richards to undergo TJ surgery. I honestly don't know if you're the Angels why you wouldn't consider trading Trout, and others, and rebuilding. Thy're the last ranked farm system, have zero pitching and look to be wasting Trout's prime. I don't think they'll do it but it's something to watch.

 

[brett05]

Garrett Richards to undergo TJ surgery. I honestly don't know if you're the Angels why you wouldn't consider trading Trout, and others, and rebuilding. Thy're the last ranked farm system, have zero pitching and look to be wasting Trout's prime. I don't think they'll do it but it's something to watch.

Trout is so young that even if the Angels attempt a Cubs rebuild he's still be in his prime. No one has enough to offer in a way of a deal IMO.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Trout is so young that even if the Angels attempt a Cubs rebuild he's still be in his prime. No one has enough to offer in a way of a deal IMO.

Maybe, but if I were them I'd consider it. He's under a decent contract for his value and is signed through 2020 when he'll be a FA at 28 years old. Without trading him they have zero chance, considering the dearth of the farm system and the crippling wieght of the Pujols contract, of competing in the remaining 5 years of his deal. The other option would be to trade off everyone else and hope for some top draft picks but I don't know if they're bold enough to go either way. It's a shame because this kid should be playing on a big stage.

 

[beckdawg]

Trout is so young that even if the Angels attempt a Cubs rebuild he's still be in his prime. No one has enough to offer in a way of a deal IMO.

Has less to do with age and more to do with money.

2016 $16,083,000
2017 $20,083,000
2018 $34,083,000
2019 $34,083,000
2020 $34,085,000

Now LAA probably doesn't have the same limitations the Ricketts did with the leveraged sale of the cubs. So, that might not matter as much. But that's still ~$35 mil or so a year where they can't spend on getting better younger. Also, the MLB probably will try to institute a international draft which will greatly limit the ability to turn money into prospects.

 

[SilenceS]

There went my AL Cy young.

 

[fatbeard]

We should probably just go ahead and sticky an official "Should the Cubs trade for Mike Trout?" thread.

 

[A.C. Milan]

We should probably just go ahead and sticky an official "Should the Cubs trade for Mike Trout?" thread.

yeah i think we should, i mean we should bring him here, this young Trout looks like a decent major leaguer :lol:

 

[fatbeard]

yeah i think we should, i mean we should bring him here, this young Trout looks like a decent major leaguer :lol:

I can't even begin to imagine the haul it would take to get him. Funny thing is, it's totally the right baseball decision for the Angels, but Arte Moreno would never allow them to do it for business reasons.

 

[SilenceS]

I can't even begin to imagine the haul it would take to get him. Funny thing is, it's totally the right baseball decision for the Angels, but Arte Moreno would never allow them to do it for business reasons.

No one wants to trade a guy who could be one of the best baseball players you will ever see in your life.

 

[fatbeard]

No one wants to trade a guy who could be one of the best baseball players you will ever see in your life.

True, but you also can't field a team with one player, and by the time the Angels restock their farm at 75 wins per season Trout will be a FA...and he'll leave for absolutely nothing in return. They can either limp along for the next four years and waste Trout's baseball value, or they can trade him and waste his business value while restocking their org. They're stuck in one of those proverbs about a rock and a hard place.

 

[SilenceS]

True, but you also can't field a team with one player, and by the time the Angels restock their farm at 75 wins per season Trout will be a FA...and he'll leave for absolutely nothing in return. They can either limp along for the next four years and waste Trout's baseball value, or they can trade him and waste his business value while restocking their org. They're stuck in one of those proverbs about a rock and a hard place.

I agree