2020 NBA Draft Thread

[MassHavoc]

ESPN says.



Marko Simonovic



6'11"215 lbs Montenegro

13 POS RK
69 OVR RK



Pre-Draft Analysis
A near 7-footer with impressive skill, Simonovic has been one of the most productive young players in Europe for Mega Soccerbet since the start of the current season, averaging 16 points and 10 rebounds per game. He's shooting over 40% for 3 on ample attempts, over 80% from the free throw line the past two seasons and is a much improved passer who can also put the ball on the floor. Simonovic doesn't have a very appealing frame, with narrow shoulders and what appears to be a mediocre wingspan that makes it difficult for him to find a position to defend even in the Adriatic League. That's the main concern projecting him to the NBA, as big men who are neither rim protectors nor capable of guarding the perimeter are increasingly difficult to hide. - Givony

 

[KBIB]

Love the Williams pick.

First, the guys the best defender on the Bulls and has yet to play a game.

Second, his coach even said "he wasn't a starter, he was a finisher".

Everyone shitting on this kid needs to take a step back. If he develops, he's jimmy buckets, if he doesn't, he's a valuable stopper from a piss poor draft.

Next year's draft will be worth the lottery if they use this year to develop.

Work in progress but still a solid pick.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Love the Williams pick.

First, the guys the best defender on the Bulls and has yet to play a game.

Second, his coach even said "he wasn't a starter, he was a finisher".

Everyone shitting on this kid needs to take a step back. If he develops, he's jimmy buckets, if he doesn't, he's a valuable stopper from a piss poor draft.

Next year's draft will be worth the lottery if they use this year to develop.

Work in progress but still a solid pick.

Sorry, but this thread is only for cunting.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

UPDATE: Obi Toppin already averaging 44 minutes per game.

 

[KBIB]

Sorry, but this thread is only for cunting.

That's a shame.

Ppl need to watch some tape on this kid. His three point shooting is a work in progress, but he has a non stop motor and a high IQ. The kids where he needs to be on both ends of the court which is what the Bulls need.

There were no sexy picks outside of Ball, and Ball is either gonna be a superstar or a bust on top of being LaVine in his own end.

Williams helps the Bulls tremendously during this transition

 

[KBIB]

As for the Marko pick, if he could put on like 25 pounds I'd like it a whole lot.

Ppl on Twitter saying he's the next Joker need to stop. He's not.

He can hit an open three, but I see him getting punk'd in the paint unless he can gain some mass.

 

[zack54attack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329296420382388227

 

[ijustposthere]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329254038941167624

I remember hearing the same thing about Trubisky. Not ragging on the Williams pick, I just saw people flipping out on FB and I came here to see what people thought. I know little about basketball.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I have no clue about Williams, but I applaud the approach of the new FO: recognizing that high-floor-low-ceiling picks will never work in today's NBA, got to swing for the fences on occasion and the Williams pick fits that preferred risk-profile.

This

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

@Gustavus Adolphus

Your right. about FSU. But I went ahead and did a little research since I really never watched him play. Name one game he performed well against a team that wasn't garbage. Lets also put in perspective that this is probably the worst the ACC has been in my entire 30+ years watching the ACC (Georgia Tech fan). I'm not saying he may not turn out to be good. but man was this a reach and a half at #4 for a projected PF where we have Lauri and Gafford. Can he play the 3? I don't know but he sure doesn't shoot well enough from college 3. So yeah, I may be speculating but rightly so.

Explain what you mean by "performed well." If you're just asking for stats, I'll admit they aren't as impressive as you might like, I don't think AKME picked Williams because of his points per game, however.

 

[bamainatlanta]

The only thing that matters is what grade did ESPN give it. They are the end all, be all.

 

[Scoot26]

Patrick Williams is definitely a wait and see pick, not much to say about it now other than speculation.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Hayes was my guy and being in Michigan I’m going to be able to see him play if I watch any piston games

but when I said I like Hayes I also said outside of top 3 there really was no clear cut pick at 4. Can’t kill a pick in a draft with that reality. We wanted garpax and company gone and they are gone. New gm new vision new style of scouting I’m in right now can’t wait to see what happens

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

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[Bust]

Love the Williams pick.

First, the guys the best defender on the Bulls and has yet to play a game.

Second, his coach even said "he wasn't a starter, he was a finisher".

Everyone shitting on this kid needs to take a step back. If he develops, he's jimmy buckets, if he doesn't, he's a valuable stopper from a piss poor draft.

Next year's draft will be worth the lottery if they use this year to develop.

Work in progress but still a solid pick.

Is he the next Luka Doncic type franchise changer?

 

[Raskolnikov]

Williams is a big mistake. Gafford probably gives you more, at least consistent rim protection and mobility.

Williams is a heavy bodied, stiff athlete. He is a mini Carlos Boozer. His 7' wing span will help him play to that, but not get to the rim like a Giannis or Lebron. He isn't that guy.

And for the last time, he is no SF. Maybe he can give you a band-aid at small forward when he is 19/20. Put a few miles on him and that will be over, he'll get bigger. He doesn't bend alot.

Jumps straight up and down, too stiff to change direction while moving at high speed or leaping.

I really hate the pick. Worse than Rachel to the Blackhawks. Or they might both be that bad.

Its truly the time of the White Sox all of a sudden. The other Chicago teams have a dark road ahead, looking at 2-4 year rebuilds if lucky.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Is he the next Luka Doncic type franchise changer?

Just wait until you see how bad this was in three years. They blew a golden opportunity.

More disturbingly they drafted into Lauri/WCJ/Gafford without a trade in place.
It doesn't help the Bulls now. He won't add much later WCJ couldn't have added, in fact I don't think he is anywhere near the prospect of WCJ, and the Bulls are smart to wait on WCJ to see him with Donovan.

WCJ cried when Duke lost. He cares enough and has tools.

Williams basically dunked on a few people in colllege because he has a 7' wingspan. I don't see much to develop there for the modern NBA. Too slow and big to guard SF's in a couple years. Not enough skill to stretch the floor.

Its a terrible terrible pick and makes me think the GM must be an imbecile too, so not only did you **** 2020 but you can expect to be fucked until 2023 before things EVEN START to get better.

The Bulls fired GarPax and managed to get worse?

My god man. Reinny wow. Just wow. This is fucked.

How do these morons get GM jobs?

 

[Raskolnikov]

Your gonna wake up like 2 off-seasons from now and this dude will be like 270, and you'll be telling me he is a SF still.

He can't shoot well enough to WIN a matchup at that position very often in the NBA. And he won't be able to get out on switches after a few miles and he fills out.

He'll be 240 by the time he finishes growing if he isn't already.
he'll be 260 the first day he carries any body fat.
He'll probably never be a 3-point shooter.

Another undersized PF. The NBA has many dozens of them, they aren't worth #4 picks except on rare occassion, and usually those guys have very soft touches around the rim, pass well, and know where to move(Horford/Randle).

EDIT: He's not even an undersized PF...h'es another PF/C. He'll actually give you something, more than Gafford.

This is a disaster and doesn't help players like WCJ who need help and spacing. He brings redundant attributes and it makes no sense to replace the guys you got doing them because he is doubtful to ever be elite at those contributions.

Like with Rachel. I hope I'm wrong. Hard to imagine thinking beings can be this stupid, same for the blackhawks. I don't get it or why he shy'd away from his PG plan. That was probably the safest route. Trade down was ripe but probably no buyers. Pistons went down the board right after us too...says alot.

Hayes/Anthony/Toppin/Kira Lewis Jr/Haliburton

those were probably all much safer picks to ensure you got healthy contributions.


Our GM tried to hit a home run but he exposed his foreignness and struck out. Maybe he can learn from this, but he is missing something right now in evaluation. He doesn't see very obvious athletic traits here.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Don't know anything about the players we drafted so...I'll wait and see. I do agree that just on paper Williams doesn't seem impressive, but clearly I don't know the whole story there.

2nd rounder intrigues me just because he's from the same team as Jokic. Jokic is slow and can't defend anyone either, but still became a stud, so maybe there's a chance for the same here lol.

 

[Raskolnikov]

The last thing I'm gonna say is Karnisovas drafted his own nemesis. Patrick Williams is the type of player that would cause him problems on a basketball court. Push him around, be too strong and too long. Too quick for him, recovery arm length, etc.

But these type of guys get drowned in the paint in the NBA. Thats hard work. Thats lunch pail shit and any ground won takes a toll.

This doesn't make the game easier, it doesn't space the floor or help others, and he'll have a hard time with girthy centers and PF's to boot. Its idiotic. Put Patrick Williams in 1999 and he'd be fine.

There is not one thing he will ever do better than WCJ who is a far superior "talent." But he doesn't compliment WCJ either?!

FUCKING GODDAMNIT WTF!! ****!