True shooting percentage isn't exactly a great stat to measure valuability when it comes to scoring. Lonzo takes a lot of spot-up three-point shots. Lamelo draws a lot more attention from the defense. Unlike his brother, he can make a contested lay up. And create his shot off the dribble. I think that he's a better passer than his brother as well. And rebounder.
It's always subjective when you're trying to weigh a player's value to a specific team and hypothesize on how that same player would do in a different role. And try to rank them based on that. Lonzo Ball has been a very valuable player for the Bulls this season. And Caruso has too. Never been more happy about the NBA tampering rules being broken in my life.
So if Brogdon "regresses to the mean" as they say and shoots 38% from 3, which is his career percentage, instead of 28%, would you then say that he is helping his team win games? At a glance he's otherwise pretty similar to Trae Young in that he's scoring at a pretty high rate, assisting at a pretty high rate, at shooting (overall) at a pretty respectable rate (46.5% FG%). And yes he's not as good as Lonzo defensively, but he's a better defender than Trae Young I'd say. But you have Young in the "at least as good as Lonzo" category but not Brogdon, so I'm a little confused where the cutoff is.
If he starts shooting 38% from 3 again and continues to play well in the other areas like he has been, I have no qualms with putting him in or above Lonzos category
Yeah I'm just saying that as an example that Brogdon is not a bad shooter at all, as his first 10 game numbers might suggest. Indeed a few players did have rough starts to the season shooting the ball including Luka and Steph in their first few games. Brogdon has been out a few games already as well (which if anything I would say that is the reason he would not be helping his team win vs taking 6 3s a game). Other names like Donovan Mitchell and Duncan Robinson had slow starts to the year shooting the ball, as well as the aforementioned Damian Lillard.
Did you miss the Anthony Davis ejection, man that kid should have had a career night and they frustrated him all game.
He may not be better statistically than a lot of PGs on the list, but he is a better passer than some, he's better defender than some, has better size than some, better IQ than some, and it works the other way. But he's much better on THIS team than many of those names better than him. On this team as it's setup, it works. Looking down through the list of PG better than him, it's true, but I think the bigger argument is how many of those are better on THIS team. He's the perfect plug in combination of skill that they need. High IQ, good size to guard, excellent hands to defend, much improved shooting to create that triple threat, really skilled passer to hit the two main scorers. It doesn't matter if he's top 10 in the league, I think he's top 10 fit on this team probably, at least for the money. Which I know is still substantial.
I agree. I didn't think it when we acquired him, but Lonzo was indeed the PG we needed for this team and he is excelling in his role. I credit the FO and BD for putting him where he shines.
Yeah, I came here to say he came with an ice pick to this one.
Harrison Barnes, OG Anunoby, Miles Bridges, Jerami Grant would all be perfect.
I don't disagree. But that was an accumulation ejection. He was a little ***** all night cause he wasn't getting the embid treatment
I think that's exactly it. He's so young and is dripping with potential but nooooo confidence or aggression. Has always been asked to defer and never be the guy. I'm praying DD has 2 more years to transform it.
Lack of aggression on offense is only part of it. That can be fixed. My bigger concern is his overall listless demeanor on the court and lack of testicular fortitude. Similar to Markkanenn in that regard. He’s still young so he could find himself, but that’s my biggest concern. That can’t really be taught or coached.
I think you are confusing quiet or reserved with lack of testicular fortitude. He doesn't have a big personality but I've seen him absolutely throw down on people at times last year. Enough that I hated the pick but I came around a bit. I've seen enough moments of aggressiveness to feel confident he has it, Laurie I thought just sucked more than he thought he did and it ruined him. Plus he had no coach who could develop talent.
Not confusing anything. He is overall very timid and somewhat mentally absent far too often. There will be occasional plays of aggression, but they’re few and far between. He does not play with energy, aggression, or toughness. There’s a lack of grit without question. Not saying he’s a lost cause or can’t improve, but have to call it how I see it
I recognize his potential like everyone else, and yet I would ship his ass out right-fast. I don’t see his potential ever intersecting with production, he reminds me of me playing pickup hoops each Saturday morning, i.e., the energy and drive of a Boomer.
