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Well its no surprise the way the season has started and I just can not see us improving while Colliton is the HC, just can't understand how this guy is still a job.
 

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So whats it going to take for this coach to be fired?
 

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Well its no surprise the way the season has started and I just can not see us improving while Colliton is the HC, just can't understand how this guy is still a job.
Most likely they're waiting a few games in. Even Savvy got 4 before he was axed.

Still, JC was Stan's guy, and that puts a spotlight back on Stan and his job as a GM, but I think we're approaching a point where Stan will have to cut ties with JC to save his skin as the lesser of 2 evils for him--just to get a seasoned coach in there to take the team up to it's ability on paper.

My guess is 7 more games before JC gets the axe.
 

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Most likely they're waiting a few games in. Even Savvy got 4 before he was axed.

Still, JC was Stan's guy, and that puts a spotlight back on Stan and his job as a GM, but I think we're approaching a point where Stan will have to cut ties with JC to save his skin as the lesser of 2 evils for him--just to get a seasoned coach in there to take the team up to it's ability on paper.

My guess is 7 more games before JC gets the axe.

Yeah, I was thinking like something around 10-12, unless it continues to be an utter shit show with horrific starts. Right now, Colliton has somewhat of a benefit in that, the schedule was absolutely brutal to begin the season -- you can call that an excuse, but it's the truth. Start in Colorado (the Cup favorite) with the high altitude, then lose 2 hours, then play a back-to-back, 3 games in 4 nights, that's tough for any team.

This upcoming 4-game home stretch is imperative not only for the Hawks, but especially for Colliton. If they don't come out of it with a winning record and one or two of those games are as ugly as the first three, you'll be right with 7.

I wasn't prepared to call for Colliton's head after one game. After these past 3 though and with how bad the Hawks have looked to start, my patience is wearing thin. If the Hawks don't come out of this 4 - 6 game stretch with a winning record, and/or look like they did to start the first 3 games, I'll get my pitchfork -- but right now, I'm still trying to remain optimistic that it was just a really tough schedule to start the season.

One thing the Hawks should do: ice the best fucking lineup. I don't care if you're shopping Strome, put him in -- he's better than any other option. Right now, this team can't afford to ice both Borgstrom and Entwistle, with Gaudette. You can experiment with young guys later, but right now, you need a win first and foremost.
 

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Fire the coach now. Savard got 4 games and actually won one without being embarrassed like this. MAF is going to leave this dumpster fire and retire.
Don't say that too loud, with the way Little Bo loves hawk retreads he might try to hire Savard again to replace JC
 

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It’s time to move on from JC, should have been done in the off season
 

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No more excuses about the altitude in CO, losing 2 hours due to time zone changes and playing 3 games in 4 nights.
I was very suprised that Kane went out of his way multiple times to say how great the coaching staff is. How is he not as frustrated as us with the teams horrible D play or his constantly changing linemates over the years?
 

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No more excuses about the altitude in CO, losing 2 hours due to time zone changes and playing 3 games in 4 nights.
I was very suprised that Kane went out of his way multiple times to say how great the coaching staff is. How is he not as frustrated as us with the teams horrible D play or his constantly changing linemates over the years?
And I'm fucking tired of hearing about new players and chemistry and whatever else Harry Potter spews.

The FUCKING SABRES go for 3-0-0 tonight and have allowed two in their fist two starts with two tenders that no other team in the league would have on their roster......both have allowed one in their only start.....WTF! Buffalo's a bunch of thrown together mis-fits who didn't spend 16.5M on a shiny new D-man and GT.

Let's hope Seth Jones is more than just lipstick on a pig and the so-called improvements are more than a house of cards or maybe pigs playing cards.....that'd be a cool black velvet poster though.
 

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Yeah, I was thinking like something around 10-12, unless it continues to be an utter shit show with horrific starts. Right now, Colliton has somewhat of a benefit in that, the schedule was absolutely brutal to begin the season -- you can call that an excuse, but it's the truth. Start in Colorado (the Cup favorite) with the high altitude, then lose 2 hours, then play a back-to-back, 3 games in 4 nights, that's tough for any team.

This upcoming 4-game home stretch is imperative not only for the Hawks, but especially for Colliton. If they don't come out of it with a winning record and one or two of those games are as ugly as the first three, you'll be right with 7.

I wasn't prepared to call for Colliton's head after one game. After these past 3 though and with how bad the Hawks have looked to start, my patience is wearing thin. If the Hawks don't come out of this 4 - 6 game stretch with a winning record, and/or look like they did to start the first 3 games, I'll get my pitchfork -- but right now, I'm still trying to remain optimistic that it was just a really tough schedule to start the season.

One thing the Hawks should do: ice the best fucking lineup. I don't care if you're shopping Strome, put him in -- he's better than any other option. Right now, this team can't afford to ice both Borgstrom and Entwistle, with Gaudette. You can experiment with young guys later, but right now, you need a win first and foremost.
Honestly, NJ isn't that strong and the pens were without Crosby and Malkin, and yet we started like we were Boston late in Game 6 of the 2013 SCF. The 17 seconds giveth and taketh away. I'll give you Colorado being tough, but there's no reason whatsoever the 'hawks should have opened against NJ or the Pens *that* badly. Losing is not the issue, it's how they lost and coming out in back to back games looking as bad to open as they did? That's on the coach--either JC's gameplan sucks that bad or he's failing to manage egos (or both). Either way it's on his shoulders.

Honestly I wouldn't be calling for his head this early either--I figured about 10-20 games in and we'd have a good idea about how he'd be with the new squad, but now I'm erring on the 10 games part of it. I agree that the next 4 should be very telling, and I agree we should be icing the best lineup at this point.

What I don't think is that Stan should be allowed to hide behind JC this year regardless of how long the remaining tenure is.
 

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Honestly, NJ isn't that strong and the pens were without Crosby and Malkin, and yet we started like we were Boston late in Game 6 of the 2013 SCF. The 17 seconds giveth and taketh away. I'll give you Colorado being tough, but there's no reason whatsoever the 'hawks should have opened against NJ or the Pens *that* badly. Losing is not the issue, it's how they lost and coming out in back to back games looking as bad to open as they did? That's on the coach--either JC's gameplan sucks that bad or he's failing to manage egos (or both). Either way it's on his shoulders.

Honestly I wouldn't be calling for his head this early either--I figured about 10-20 games in and we'd have a good idea about how he'd be with the new squad, but now I'm erring on the 10 games part of it. I agree that the next 4 should be very telling, and I agree we should be icing the best lineup at this point.

What I don't think is that Stan should be allowed to hide behind JC this year regardless of how long the remaining tenure is.

The starts were unacceptable, and yes, part of that falls on the coach, but honestly, I blame the players more. A coach can only say so much. Do we really think Colliton didn't address this before NJ or especially Pitt? We all know he and the other coaches did, but they still played like dog shit.

I'd love to see Stan gone too, but the coach is always the fall guy.
 

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It's not the piss poor starts that have me down on Harry Potter,it's immediately inserting Gus the Terrible for 17-18 minutes a game over a kid who needs the work,played okay and will get better with more work.
It's a total refusal to play a 3M forward/center who is without a doubt NOT the 15th forward on this team but will be treated as such. Why the **** did one DUMBASS re-sign a player for 3MX2 that the other DUMBASS won't play?

And then there's this.....


Yeah,let's put last year's 3rd leading goal scorer back on a 3rd/checking line.......IT'S GETTING REAL HARD TO FOLLOW THIS SHITSHOW!!!!
 

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The last and most important PS game saw Hawks starters beat the Wild starters 5-1,outshoot the Wild starters,out-hit the Wild starters,win more draws and generally outplay em all over the ice......what happened?
Strome was in that lineup(1 ast,+1,2 TKA's)and Gus the Terrible wasn't and the Wild starters are 2-0-0 so far.....just a fact!
Gus the Terrible is hot garbage and Strome is nowhere near the team's 15th best forward and the rest of the team probably knows this too........maybe that's what happened! If there's a more plausible explanation.....please share.
 

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No more excuses about the altitude in CO, losing 2 hours due to time zone changes and playing 3 games in 4 nights.
I was very suprised that Kane went out of his way multiple times to say how great the coaching staff is. How is he not as frustrated as us with the teams horrible D play or his constantly changing linemates over the years?
Well, sure, but sometimes that's what a leader does. If he's in public talking shit about the coaching staff he's going to for sure lose the kids. He's super frusterated, but he also was to be in super team player mode right now becuase 1.) I think he finally has the A on his sweater (can't remember) but 2 more importantly has to have a perfect public persona come trade time because if he wants to force a trade he can't seem like a poor sport or he's the real problem, or b.) if he wants to stay he can then be clear about it and there will be no negativity on him from the year to have management present it like it was his idea to move. Given what he did for this team last year in such a shit filled season, i'm wiling to go ahead and let him be the talking robot in front of the cameras.
 

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The starts were unacceptable, and yes, part of that falls on the coach, but honestly, I blame the players more. A coach can only say so much. Do we really think Colliton didn't address this before NJ or especially Pitt? We all know he and the other coaches did, but they still played like dog shit.

I'd love to see Stan gone too, but the coach is always the fall guy.
Typically I agree that at some point it's over on the players. BUT when the problem is these atrocious starts, it's usually about preparation, and that's on the whole staff and leaders. Having your team ready to go is probably one of the most significant things a staff can do, and yet probably one of the easiest.
 

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