49ers, not Bears, trade to #3 to get top QB in draft...

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They can also take a WR or OT at #12 and not much of a drop off
 

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Never saw that. Is it as bad as it looks?

Costner is GM of the Browns and trades multiple #1's to get the 1st pick in the draft to get the top QB.
Later, its discovered that the QB gets rattled after being hit and plays like shit after that.
Movie is pretty hokey but its all draft related so it makes it ok.
 

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Its hard to argue that SF didn't make a huge blunder here.

You just traded 3 first round picks for Justin Fields or Mac Jones, both of which have flaws in their game.

Maybe that's a trade you make on draft day when you know your guy is available, or a trade you at least wait a few picks on to see if he falls. But to give all that up a month before the draft when you can't even be certain the guy you want is available?
 

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The other thing to note with Lance vs Jones is that Jones beats teams with his arm rather than his legs. Lance does a lot of one read and then tuck and scramble (which he had a lot of success with in college, but that style doesn't translate well to the NFL as a day 1 starter).

Guess who made more 1-read throws between Lance and Jones? Guess who made more tight window throws between the two? And that style translated fine for Kyler Murray and Cam Newton.
 

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This could mean the first three players off the board will all be quarterbacks, and all the other quarterback-starved teams will have to settle for what's left.
 

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Who has been fleeced now?
 

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Its hard to argue that SF didn't make a huge blunder here.

You just traded 3 first round picks for Justin Fields or Mac Jones, both of which have flaws in their game.

Maybe that's a trade you make on draft day when you know your guy is available, or a trade you at least wait a few picks on to see if he falls. But to give all that up a month before the draft when you can't even be certain the guy you want is available?
Or Lance, which doesn't make it any better.
 

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Lol, the Bears are going to go another year without drafting a quarterback high in the draft, and, instead, torture us by filling the QB room with two journeyman vets and probably a low-end rookie with no upside and act like they've made progress.

There is ZERO excuse for the Bears to get beaten out by any team when it comes to trading up in this draft. Andy Dalton can NOT be an option to start next year. You just can't have that happen.
 

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Guess who made more 1-read throws between Lance and Jones? Guess who made more tight window throws between the two? And that style translated fine for Kyler Murray and Cam Newton.


I like that you've picked your hill to die on. Good for you!
 

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How much did it matter between Wyoming's Josh Allen and UCLA's Josh Rosen?


Dude, we get it.... you like the guy. No need to keep defending it. All I'm saying is you can't deny that Jones is more experienced. You play better players in his case and you practice against betters players. Doesn't mean Lance won't end up better..... but for NOW...... Jones is more experienced.
 

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That is such a massive haul for the Dolphins, who already have a shit ton of draft capital.

That said they are betting it all on Tua evidently.
For now, anyway...
 

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Dude, we get it.... you like the guy. No need to keep defending it. All I'm saying is you can't deny that Jones is more experienced. You play better players in his case and you practice against betters players. Doesn't mean Lance won't end up better..... but for NOW...... Jones is more experienced.

They literally have the same experience (number of starts). LOL. You can't weigh experience vs level of competition, because that's subjective. Like you wouldn't say Trubisky is more experienced than Carson Wentz because he had 12 starts in a power 5 vs. 2+ years starting at FCS.

The point isn't to defend Lance, it's to call out BS and false narratives. I have actually defended Jones from people who knock him for playing with too much talent. Lance played with just as much talent, comparatively in the FCS.
 

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If Pace traded into #3, he'd pick Mac Jones and leave Justin Fields on the board.
 

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They literally have the same experience (number of starts). LOL. You can't weigh experience vs level of competition, because that's subjective. Like you wouldn't say Trubisky is more experienced than Carson Wentz because he had 12 starts in a power 5 vs. 2+ years starting at FCS.

The point isn't to defend Lance, it's to call out BS and false narratives. I have actually defended Jones from people who knock him for playing with too much talent. Lance played with just as much talent, comparatively in the FCS.


Players from Alabama have said over the years the practices are harder than the games. There's more talent on Alamaba than there is in Lance's whole conference.
 

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Well, to be fair, 17 starts against SEC comp vs 17 against Missouri Valley Conference clearly is not apples to apples.
Regardless the shade of skin of those we are comparing. TBH, Trey may end up crushing it in the league, and I personally hope he does, but the disparity of his small sample size vs the small sample size of M. Jones' is is immense, and honestly hard to dismiss.
 

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