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MKG will be the 2nd or 3rd player taken. No way he drops to #5
MKG will be the 2nd or 3rd player taken. No way he drops to #5
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Absolutely not.
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that or MKG...barnes is a bad pick at 5
hell no
sacramento is not THAT stupid
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ya....he could be there though you never know
i would consider lamb then if you need a wing
or at center just go with drummond
leonard would be the next available one but he's not the same kind of prospect as drummond
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He won't be.
MKG won't make it past 3. If he drops to 4 I'd be beyond shocked. Too many of those top teams need wings.
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I'd love it to happen but no.
If they offer Deng it might though but I'm not really sure about involving Deng in it.
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Agreed. Leaned toward No from the get-go.
Wishful thinking of course. :lol:
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I would say No, but at the same time I'm still puzzled as to why the FO would talk to a lottery pick about how well his game meshes with our team when they have ZERO chance of getting him in the draft. It's like the biggest geek in school going up to the prom queen & saying "You're really hot. I just wanted you to know that."
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:shrug: In some ways I think that the trade I suggested in the other thread (Deng/Asik/our pick for Evans/Williams/#5) is more likely to happen than this one, but that one is still kind of a long shot. From what I read the Kings want a starting caliber SF (Deng) and a defensive C (Asik). That trade gives them both. We'd be getting back the same thing plus a moderate risk/high reward guy in Williams. I'm not sure if they'd give him to us though...depends on how much weight they put in his performance at the end of last season.
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I made the same suggestion after I started the Barnes thread & I agree it could be a more likely trade scenario than this current one as it fills the 2 holes Sacramento has desperately been trying to fill for 3 seasons now.
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I'm not sure you understood the context of my response.
Would I do this trade? Yes.
Do I think it's going to happen? Absolutely not.
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Oh right, I think you mentioned that in the offseason thread too. Sorry about that. But regardless of whoever's idea it was, we're in agreement.
In any case, imo this trade also leaves us with a more balanced team since we'd be able to keep Noah and use the pick to draft a big man (since it's unlikely that we could get MKG anyway unless we trade up) leaving us with only the SF position to fill. It's possible that Williams could slide into Deng's spot in the lineup if he pans out or we could put Reke at the 3 when Rose comes back.
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meh...i've seen some pretty surprising things happen on draft day...some of these guys have odd likings to certain players and pick them higher than they should be..i heard barnes might go to cleveland(i would lol)
i guess the idea is to plan accordingly if you get the #5..which means if this trade out of some miracle were to occur, look for a center or a backup SF(preferably a center)
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i disagree
its not robbery but just wouldn't be a good trade for us...not in terms of talent just not a good move
im not high on tyreke at all and i dont think rose and tyreke would ever work well
im just naming players that would be available then not team needs really....you think MKG will fall to 5? if so i would trade deng for that pick
yeah but hes fallin to that low for a reason
will he be good or will he be another "had potential" players?
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i guess i could see MKG goin #5 if it went like
Hornets- Davis
Bobcats - Robinson
Wizards - Beal
Cavaliers - Barnes
but i doubt that happens...i can see top 3 happening but i think cavs will scoop MKG if he falls to 4
Hornets- Davis
Bobcats - Robinson
Wizards - Beal
Cavaliers - Barnes
but i doubt that happens...i can see top 3 happening but i think cavs will scoop MKG if he falls to 4
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guess you retract this statement then?
it's a pretty damn good trade..why do you say it's not a good move..besides of rose and evans "not working well"?
it would help if you gave some reasons...there are a couple of issues i noted in another thread
he's a bad 3 point shooter, he can be inefficient and turnover prone, tyreke prefers seems a little more at home playing point than off guard
as i said, if the trade were to happen...tyreke would be learning the chicago offense and running the point while rose is hurt...he would learn the offense and it's perks well before rose comes back so by then perhaps an assimilation might work better
there can be some conflicting issues between ball dominant players though, that i will say
honestly i doubt MKG falls to 5 but i was listing out possibilities..most likely lamb will be the wing available and i would hope that drummond slips to 5 which is very possible...
he's fallen all the way to 4 or 5...lol
who knows if any of the players in this draft will be truly good? Every player has something to prove..
but Drummond is high risk/high reward
he is huge,athletic, quick
in other words, he has unbelievable tools for an nba big man and i think at worst he could still be a presence
in the right system with the right coaching, he has the capability of being a very good low post threat
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ya i'm thinking that's the top 3 and probably MKG 4th...but who exactly knows?
the cavs do have some interest in barnes though so you never know
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I can see why Megatron and maybe some other people would be against having Tyreke on the team. He likes to play with the ball in his hands, which would be a problem since Rose likes to do the same. He isn't only a bad 3 point shooter. He's just not a very good shooter, period. Last season between 16-23 feet, he shot 30%. From 10-15 feet, he shot 23.5%. From 3-9 feet, he shot 26.6%. He can have some bad turnovers and his D isn't the greatest either.
But the trade wouldn't only be about Tyreke. That 5th pick could potentially end up being better than Noah. So whether Tyreke pans out or not, if the 5th pick winds up being better than Noah, then we improve. Also, another positive way to look at it, if Tyreke doesn't pan out, is that we can let him walk since he's in the last year of his deal and we'll have more cap space since Noah's big contract won't be here anymore.
Best case scenario is that tyreke and Rose fit perfectly and the 5th pick winds up being a great player.
Worst case, Tyreke sucks and the 5th pick sucks and we don't use the cap space wisely.
But the trade wouldn't only be about Tyreke. That 5th pick could potentially end up being better than Noah. So whether Tyreke pans out or not, if the 5th pick winds up being better than Noah, then we improve. Also, another positive way to look at it, if Tyreke doesn't pan out, is that we can let him walk since he's in the last year of his deal and we'll have more cap space since Noah's big contract won't be here anymore.
Best case scenario is that tyreke and Rose fit perfectly and the 5th pick winds up being a great player.
Worst case, Tyreke sucks and the 5th pick sucks and we don't use the cap space wisely.
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ya, there are some drawbacks to tyreke..but of course as noted there are alot of other parts to the trade
tyreke for noah straight up is still a good trade..but the pick advantage makes it even better
as i said, i think a big thing for tyreke would be learning the offense as rose is out and learning how to set up other players, create for himself with the plays,etc.
he won't be trying to learn the offense while having to conflict with rose
when rose comes back, i think since tyreke will know the offense it will easier for him to share the ball a little
tyreke is a decent passer and i think he can create and give rose some opportunities to make some shots off the ball or create a lane for rose to drive
i think having another creater gives the offense some flexibility
and good point about tyreke's contract...the trade not only can give the offense some flexibility but the bulls financially some flexibility as well
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His Sophmore season was a serious struggle for him. He played almost the whole season with Plantar Faciitis in his left foot. His D is a bit underrated imho. It's not like Westphal or Smart for that matter ever stressed defense in their coaching philosophies. And then they move him to SF this season, which he is clearly not a SF. The potential is there. Only the 4th player ever to average 20+ ppg, 5+ apg, & 5+ rpg as a rookie (Big O, LBJ, & MJ the other 3 to accomplish that feat). This kid is in desperate need of a change of scenery.
As for his shooting, that will improve. He bounced back this season. And if Thibs could make Deng a 3pt shooter, he can definitely make Evans one too. I just feel the reward totally outweighs the risk when it comes to him.