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Sanborn is the new Hillenmeyer. Too smart and trusted to cut. Not flashy enough for anyone else to be interested.

He will stick as a long term back-up you always count on but lacks starter speed.

Have a feeling he will be important every December and January.
Yes but that’s perfectly fine for a part time player like a SAM Linebacker. Good thing he wasn’t drafted in the 1st round!
 

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I think the worst thing you can do is start a guy based purely on pay or cap hit and not on talent/production. The Davis contract is a sunk cost at this point. If someone else is healthy and playing better, then you play that guy and not Davis just due to his contract.

Now, if Davis suddenly gets motivated, healthy and is playing better than yeah, maybe he can still be that starter they hoped he would be. But, that's a lot of things that have to change for that to happen.
That is true but Bates is not a better guard than Davis. It's just as dumb to not play the better player in order to send a message that practice is important. Davis isn't the greatest but he's the best guard outside of Jenkins.

The media always needs something negative to talk about to keep the fans feeling emotional, Davis is an easy target because he is obviously lazy and doesn't want to practice. This will be his last year on the team, but if healthy he's the starter.
 

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That is true but Bates is not a better guard than Davis. It's just as dumb to not play the better player in order to send a message that practice is important. Davis isn't the greatest but he's the best guard outside of Jenkins.

The media always needs something negative to talk about to keep the fans feeling emotional, Davis is an easy target because he is obviously lazy and doesn't want to practice. This will be his last year on the team, but if healthy he's the starter.
Can you be better if you never play/practice?

The last 16 months have clearly proven why Vrabel couldn't stand the guy and had zero interest in keeping him on the titans
 

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Can you be better if you never play/practice?

The last 16 months have clearly proven why Vrabel couldn't stand the guy and had zero interest in keeping him on the titans
I'm pretty sure it was reported that his mother died from cancer or something to that extent last season which contributed to a lot of last seasons missed time. He still played in the same amount of games that Teven and Braxton did (11).

If the doctors say he has an injury there must be a reason. If he is healthy heading into the first game of the season he will start, regardless of what the great Mike Vrabel thinks.
 

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What's funny is there were a lot of people who said Sewell would easily unseat Sanborn after Sewell was drafted last year. Even with Sanborn hurt for much of the preseason, Sewell failed to show anything. I too would not be surprised if he is cut.
Yeah I am definitely in this one. I don't know about being cut, but he had an honest chance coming into this year, and right now his competition is ramping up.

It looks like this squad of LBs is about as deep as the DBs.
 

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I would expect competition between:
Stroman and Blackwell for CB6

Sewell and Baskerville for LB5 (Sewell potential IR)

VJJ, Collin Johnson, Pettis, Carter for two WR spots, one must be PR.

Then there is the RB where lots of combos are possible. Swift and Roschon are locks. I think Blassingame (sort of TE4?) and Homer make it because of ST. Then you have Herbert and Wheeler. I don't think Herbert fits this system very well but he is also a really dangerous runner. Think they might try to trade him for a potential cut at DL somewhere or 6th-7th rounder. Especially if Wheeler can play ST or VJJ can actually be competent there (don't think so right now).

I think Robinson makes it because of, again, ST and because they have very weak depth at DE. If they acquire DL after cuts or via trade he becomes expendable.

Offense (25):
QB: CW, Bagent (Rypien, Reed)
RB: Swift, RJ, Herbert, Homer, Blass (Wheeler)
TE: Kmet, GE, ML (Carlson, Bates)
WR: DJM, KA, RO, TS, CJ, DC (Webster)
OL: Brax-Jenkins-Bates-Davis-Wright Borom-Pryor-Carter-Shelton (Carvin, Murray, Curhan, Kramer) (Kiran IR)

Defense (25)
DL: Sweat-Billings-Dexter-Walker DomRob-Pickens-Cowart-Booker-Martin (Randolph, Hardy, Hutchings)
LB: TJE, TE, Sanborn Omen, Baskerville (White) (Sewell IR)
DB: Jaylon-Gordon-Byard-Brisker-Tyrique Terrell-Owens-Hicks-Jones-Blackwell-QuindellJ (Stroman, Steward)

ST (3): Santos, Taylor, Scales
 

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I'm pretty sure it was reported that his mother died from cancer or something to that extent last season which contributed to a lot of last seasons missed time. He still played in the same amount of games that Teven and Braxton did (11).

If the doctors say he has an injury there must be a reason. If he is healthy heading into the first game of the season he will start, regardless of what the great Mike Vrabel thinks.
I think it'll boil down to that—if he's healthy. I'm not sure what the extent of his injury is, but I think he may not be ready for week 1. I do think he's starting if he's healthy though. Based on how he interacts with teammates and how they speak of him, I don't think he's lost their faith, so that must mean a bit of something.

I will continue to joke about him missing practice though cause making fun of it is my coping mechanism.
 
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Can you be better if you never play/practice?

The last 16 months have clearly proven why Vrabel couldn't stand the guy and had zero interest in keeping him on the titans
I wonder if the Bears part ways with Davis before Game 1. I think they have had enough. Poles has shown that he will move on (ie. Claypool). I think Davis has been more of a liability than an asset.
 
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I wouldn't be shocked
I hope we do. He's taking up a roster spot of someone who might actually WANT to play. I think some of the back up offensive linemen have been playing quite well. I mean, haven't they been playing Bates at RG? If Bates is healthy, keep him there and try to find someone who is in desperation mode with their offensive line and try to swing a draft pick of some kind or a player for player trade of some kind.

I'm looking at teams like Pittsburgh. That line is PUTRID.
 

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I would expect competition between:
Stroman and Blackwell for CB6

Sewell and Baskerville for LB5 (Sewell potential IR)

VJJ, Collin Johnson, Pettis, Carter for two WR spots, one must be PR.

Then there is the RB where lots of combos are possible. Swift and Roschon are locks. I think Blassingame (sort of TE4?) and Homer make it because of ST. Then you have Herbert and Wheeler. I don't think Herbert fits this system very well but he is also a really dangerous runner. Think they might try to trade him for a potential cut at DL somewhere or 6th-7th rounder. Especially if Wheeler can play ST or VJJ can actually be competent there (don't think so right now).

I think Robinson makes it because of, again, ST and because they have very weak depth at DE. If they acquire DL after cuts or via trade he becomes expendable.

Offense (25):
QB: CW, Bagent (Rypien, Reed)
RB: Swift, RJ, Herbert, Homer, Blass (Wheeler)
TE: Kmet, GE, ML (Carlson, Bates)
WR: DJM, KA, RO, TS, CJ, DC (Webster)
OL: Brax-Jenkins-Bates-Davis-Wright Borom-Pryor-Carter-Shelton (Carvin, Murray, Curhan, Kramer) (Kiran IR)

Defense (25)
DL: Sweat-Billings-Dexter-Walker DomRob-Pickens-Cowart-Booker-Martin (Randolph, Hardy, Hutchings)
LB: TJE, TE, Sanborn Omen, Baskerville (White) (Sewell IR)
DB: Jaylon-Gordon-Byard-Brisker-Tyrique Terrell-Owens-Hicks-Jones-Blackwell-QuindellJ (Stroman, Steward)

ST (3): Santos, Taylor, Scales

I could easily see Homer getting cut at this point. He brings nothing to the RB room that you can't get with any of the other guys. His spot is all about ST, but if any of those other guys shows promise there, you cut Homer and save almost $2M in cap space.

At one point, Borom was also a possibility to get cut, maybe traded for a future late day 3 pick, as there was around $3M is cap savings there. Honestly, the best thing that happened for Borom was probably Kiran not being ready to go as they hoped. If that changes or if they see similar OT depth, I could see them still moving on from Borom.
 

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I hope we do. He's taking up a roster spot of someone who might actually WANT to play. I think some of the back up offensive linemen have been playing quite well. I mean, haven't they been playing Bates at RG? If Bates is healthy, keep him there and try to find someone who is in desperation mode with their offensive line and try to swing a draft pick of some kind or a player for player trade of some kind.

I'm looking at teams like Pittsburgh. That line is PUTRID.
If PTO Nate can't get on the practice field for the Bears, nobody is trading for him and that contract.

If he continues to miss time; id stuff him on the IR; then reach an injury settlement with him and be rid of him.
 

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Can you be better if you never play/practice?

The last 16 months have clearly proven why Vrabel couldn't stand the guy and had zero interest in keeping him on the titans
Can you be better if you never play/practice?

Start the others guys and see if they got it or not, Davis is headache Caleb doesn't need right now.
 

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I could easily see Homer getting cut at this point. He brings nothing to the RB room that you can't get with any of the other guys. His spot is all about ST, but if any of those other guys shows promise there, you cut Homer and save almost $2M in cap space.

At one point, Borom was also a possibility to get cut, maybe traded for a future late day 3 pick, as there was around $3M is cap savings there. Honestly, the best thing that happened for Borom was probably Kiran not being ready to go as they hoped. If that changes or if they see similar OT depth, I could see them still moving on from Borom.
Homer's signing was all about ST, that's what he was brough there to do. He's competing with Herbert and Wheeler and maybe Velus. I think Herbert doesn't play ST, Wheeler is an undrafted rookie. Homer saves a little over $1m relative to Wheeler. Could be interesting there.

Agree on Borom.

In my previous post I also forgot that players who start the year on IR aren't eligible for return, so likely Sewell and maybe Kiran will have to be rostered. That makes OL competition much more intense if they don't want to shelve him.
 

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Homer's signing was all about ST, that's what he was brough there to do. He's competing with Herbert and Wheeler and maybe Velus. I think Herbert doesn't play ST, Wheeler is an undrafted rookie. Homer saves a little over $1m relative to Wheeler. Could be interesting there.

Agree on Borom.

In my previous post I also forgot that players who start the year on IR aren't eligible for return, so likely Sewell and maybe Kiran will have to be rostered. That makes OL competition much more intense if they don't want to shelve him.

I thought the NFL changed the IR rules this year to allow 2 players to be put on IR on cut down day and still be eligible to be activated off IR after a min 4 games.
 

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I could easily see Homer getting cut at this point. He brings nothing to the RB room that you can't get with any of the other guys. His spot is all about ST, but if any of those other guys shows promise there, you cut Homer and save almost $2M in cap space.

At one point, Borom was also a possibility to get cut, maybe traded for a future late day 3 pick, as there was around $3M is cap savings there. Honestly, the best thing that happened for Borom was probably Kiran not being ready to go as they hoped. If that changes or if they see similar OT depth, I could see them still moving on from Borom.
Homers also one of the very few guys on offense that has played for Waldron before. Might not mean shit, but system familiarity is there.
 

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I thought the NFL changed the IR rules this year to allow 2 players to be put on IR on cut down day and still be eligible to be activated off IR after a min 4 games.
Cool, if that's the case it makes things easier.
 

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Homer's signing was all about ST, that's what he was brough there to do. He's competing with Herbert and Wheeler and maybe Velus. I think Herbert doesn't play ST, Wheeler is an undrafted rookie. Homer saves a little over $1m relative to Wheeler. Could be interesting there.

Agree on Borom.

In my previous post I also forgot that players who start the year on IR aren't eligible for return, so likely Sewell and maybe Kiran will have to be rostered. That makes OL competition much more intense if they don't want to shelve him.
I think Wheeler will be fun to watch. Obviously he looked great against Buffalo. If he does the same in the next two games and shows kick return skills (his speciality at Howard). he should make the 53.
 

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