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I think Wheeler will be fun to watch. Obviously he looked great against Buffalo. If he does the same in the next two games and shows kick return skills (his speciality at Howard). he should make the 53.
With Wheeler and VJJ at running back, if someone would give some value for Herbert then we should pull the trigger. Cut Homer, keep Swift/Roshon/Wheeler/VJJ. The latter two can return kicks and VJJ can be an emergency receiver if need be.
 

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With Wheeler and VJJ at running back, if someone would give some value for Herbert then we should pull the trigger. Cut Homer, keep Swift/Roshon/Wheeler/VJJ. The latter two can return kicks and VJJ can be an emergency receiver if need be.
Why in the hell is everyone trying to get rid of Herbert??? He has been a good player, is better than Roschon, and he can also return kicks.

Let the guy finish his contract out instead of trying to be "business smart" and moving a guy that makes the team better
 

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With Wheeler and VJJ at running back, if someone would give some value for Herbert then we should pull the trigger. Cut Homer, keep Swift/Roshon/Wheeler/VJJ. The latter two can return kicks and VJJ can be an emergency receiver if need be.
This may be a good plan. I do think Herbert is a much better player than VJJ though.
 

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I think Wheeler will be fun to watch. Obviously he looked great against Buffalo. If he does the same in the next two games and shows kick return skills (his speciality at Howard). he should make the 53.
He looked great, but it was mostly behind an OL that was dominating after the game was decided. Long way to go for him. But it would be great if he continued playing well and made the team. Especially if they can trade Herbert.
 

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Why in the hell is everyone trying to get rid of Herbert???
Because he's the clear #2 behind Swift and the only other guy with a proven track record that might be able to get value back in a draft pick. Then you're banking on the other guys at least being adequate in his stead. Of course I wouldn't be slightest bit opposed to keeping him to hedge some Swift nagging injuries and keep a higher level of supporting talent for Caleb in year 1.
 

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I believe the best the Bears could get for Herbert would be a draft pick swap. RBs are kinda like a dime a dozen nowadays. I don't see the value in trading him as he's clearly the 2nd best RB on the roster and is needed in the long grueling season. Of all the backs, I am not a fan of Roschon. With VJJ, Poles is in a desperation mode to save face on the pick by moving him to RB.
 

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Herbert is the second best ball carrier. He's not very good at anything else. He is a poor pass blocker and while he can catch dumps offs, he's not a route runner. I'm not sure how well he fits Waldron's scheme - don't know how much one cutting he really employs. I heard a couple beat writers say he is not a lock to make the team.

That said if Swift goes down I think he will be pretty valuable, with Roschon as the 3rd down back. He is also really cheap, only a few hundred grand over minimum. As I wrote earlier I think he makes the roster but RB is one of the most competitive positions to make the 53.
 

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Homer's signing was all about ST, that's what he was brough there to do. He's competing with Herbert and Wheeler and maybe Velus. I think Herbert doesn't play ST, Wheeler is an undrafted rookie. Homer saves a little over $1m relative to Wheeler. Could be interesting there.

Agree on Borom.

In my previous post I also forgot that players who start the year on IR aren't eligible for return, so likely Sewell and maybe Kiran will have to be rostered. That makes OL competition much more intense if they don't want to shelve him.
Herbert is terrible on ST. His missed block in 2022 lead to a Dolphins blocked punt/TD which turned out to be the difference in the game. Herbert is a one trick pony that offers little elsewhere.
 

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Herbert is terrible on ST. His missed block in 2022 lead to a Dolphins blocked punt/TD which turned out to be the difference in the game. Herbert is a one trick pony that offers little elsewhere.
He is a one trick pony, and as I mentioned I'm not sure he really fits into Waldron's scheme.
 

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Herbert is the second best ball carrier. He's not very good at anything else. He is a poor pass blocker and while he can catch dumps offs, he's not a route runner. I'm not sure how well he fits Waldron's scheme - don't know how much one cutting he really employs. I heard a couple beat writers say he is not a lock to make the team.

That said if Swift goes down I think he will be pretty valuable, with Roschon as the 3rd down back. He is also really cheap, only a few hundred grand over minimum. As I wrote earlier I think he makes the roster but RB is one of the most competitive positions to make the 53.
Correct...second best ball carrier....and after the Bills game, that's up for debate....VJJ has some serious burst of speed and imo more than Herbert. Bears I say are keeping Wheeler before Herbert. Wheeler too looks faster than Herbert. I like Herbert but da Bears now have guys competing for his spot and I think Herbert may be gone. May the best man win. Go Bears!
 

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He is a one trick pony, and as I mentioned I'm not sure he really fits into Waldron's scheme.
It’s 2024 and Bears fans have yet to figure out the importance of a RB that can pass block and be an efficient receiver out of the backfield lol.
 

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With Wheeler and VJJ at running back, if someone would give some value for Herbert then we should pull the trigger. Cut Homer, keep Swift/Roshon/Wheeler/VJJ. The latter two can return kicks and VJJ can be an emergency receiver if need be.
Right...Wheeler & VJJ can play STs while Herbert has proven he can't. That alone makes them more valuable. I have always liked Herbert, but when you can upgrade a position, you do it. And Wheeler's first TD showed he has way more power in his running than Herbert. Does anyone actually believe Herbert could have score on the play that Wheeler did? I say no way Jose. Herbert can't move a pile after being hit. And definitely not moving 2 or 3 guys. Watch the replay of Wheeler's first TD and then decide.
 

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not that i care about herbert but he's the best runner on the team.

Why do you guys want to get rid of him for a 7th round pick? lol

What happens when swift gets hurt, roschon is always hurt too. You want wheeler as RB1? Velus drops jr as RB1?
 

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not that i care about herbert but he's the best runner on the team.

Why do you guys want to get rid of him for a 7th round pick? lol

What happens when swift gets hurt, roschon is always hurt too. You want wheeler as RB1? Velus drops jr as RB1?
After the last game...there's no doubt in my mind I would play Wheeler before Herbert. Same w/VJJ......granted Wheeler played vs the 2nd & 3rd stringers, I'll give you that, but he showed way more power and toughness and speed around the corner than Herbert.
 

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After the last game...there's no doubt in my mind I would play Wheeler before Herbert. Same w/VJJ......granted Wheeler played vs the 2nd & 3rd stringers, I'll give you that, but he showed way more power and toughness and speed around the corner than Herbert.
Umm, did you watch Wheeler trying to catch passes on HK last night?? The guy has feet for hands, Herbert can at least catch better than 50% of his targets. Also people obviously have forgotten how good of a Kick returner he is.

Roschon hasn't done anything better than Herbert besides being a Poles draft pick. Swift is RB1 and Herbert is RB2 clearly. VJJ & Wheeler bring speed at RB's 3/4... Roschon is basically an undersized Fullback.

I think Rojo replaces Blasingame.
 

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Umm, did you watch Wheeler trying to catch passes on HK last night?? The guy has feet for hands, Herbert can at least catch better than 50% of his targets. Also people obviously have forgotten how good of a Kick returner he is.

Roschon hasn't done anything better than Herbert besides being a Poles draft pick. Swift is RB1 and Herbert is RB2 clearly. VJJ & Wheeler bring speed at RB's 3/4... Roschon is basically an undersized Fullback.

I think Rojo replaces Blasingame.
No...I not watching HK and would never watch something like that. Why a show like that even exists is beyond me. But my first guess is to keep criminals off the streets. But that's just my take. If I understand you correctly, watching what Wheeler did on some reality show bs is more telling than what he did in an actual game. Right? Sorry I'm an old fart and go by that primitive thinking of an 'eye test.'
 

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not that i care about herbert but he's the best runner on the team.

Why do you guys want to get rid of him for a 7th round pick? lol

What happens when swift gets hurt, roschon is always hurt too. You want wheeler as RB1? Velus drops jr as RB1?
You mean if he gets hurt? We all better worry about what happens if Brax gets hurt. I hope no one is naive enough to think da Bears actually have a back-up LT. If Brax does go down....there will be whaling & gnashing of teeth after the first game he misses. And those who have belittled him probably will be the ones doing it the most. RBs da Bears have, LTs I think not.
 

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You mean if he gets hurt? We all better worry about what happens if Brax gets hurt. I hope no one is naive enough to think da Bears actually have a back-up LT. If Brax does go down....there will be whaling & gnashing of teeth after the first game he misses. And those who have belittled him probably will be the ones doing it the most. RBs da Bears have, LTs I think not.

No team has a backup LT worth a damn, welcome to the NFL.

RB's also get hurt all the time, thats why teams dont pay them.

Getting rid of a guy who led the league in YPC a couple seasons ago for basically nothing is just dumb. If the bears had better players, sure, but wheeler/velus are not better.

Not sure how you can say a UDFA and a guy who's likely to be cut are better at this point than a guy who has shown for multiple years he's a good RB in the NFL. He may not be able to block or catch but he's the best pure runner by a wide margin on this team.

I am not even a herbert fan, but getting rid of him just to get rid of him is stupid.
 
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I love seeing Hardy play opposite Booker.
Those two guys are basically in the same place at the same time when it comes to QB hurries and hits.
 

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Right...Wheeler & VJJ can play STs while Herbert has proven he can't. That alone makes them more valuable. I have always liked Herbert, but when you can upgrade a position, you do it. And Wheeler's first TD showed he has way more power in his running than Herbert. Does anyone actually believe Herbert could have score on the play that Wheeler did? I say no way Jose. Herbert can't move a pile after being hit. And definitely not moving 2 or 3 guys. Watch the replay of Wheeler's first TD and then decide.
Herbert can return kickoffs though.
 

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