[A] Crawesome: CHI 4, DAL 1

[bierboy]

Hogwash. You weren't watching the game I watched, then. Stars had very few quality chances and the 22 SOG is accurate because of the blocked shots and solid defense. Sure he's won a few games in a row; he's done that all season, then shit the bed. We'll see what happens...

 

[PatrickShart]

Hawks had just as many - if not more - scoring chances. Sharp and Stalberg come to mind just off the top of the head. I think Dallas only had like 11 shots well past the halfway point of the game

 

[Ton]

I wish they would keep that stat, but the only thing I can go off to prove it is the video archive. Crawford had several great saves throughout the game and certainly outplayed the guy at the other end of the rink. Of the 21 saves, 11 of them made it into the video highlights... 11! More than half. Meanwhile Lehtonen had 6 out of his 27 saves on there... That's a pretty big difference if those can be considered "scoring chances".



No one said Crawford won this game for the Hawks, but he definitely was a big contributor. Don't let the shot totals confuse you.

 

[Variable]

None of that is bad or not promising. Just the problem has been keeping that kind of effort up defensively and possessing the puck. I'd much rather have them play like that than have to rely on your goaltender, even if their goaltender wasn't inconsistent or has had the type of season Crawford has had.

 

[R K]

Saying Crawford won this game is delusional. We blocked 20 shots....he hardly had to work to win this game. Still looked shaky at times in the net. Sure, he made a few good saves. This was, BY NO MEANS, a game that he won for us. It was a team victory, solid defense, opportunistic offense. Average goaltending....

Crawford was more than solid. remind me how many soft goals he gave up on the 4-5 quality shots they got off. Especially in the 2nd when they were all over the Hawks.



What game were you watching? Crawford has been a clear star in both last W's, against not only the best team in the NHL right now not named Pittsburgh, but against a team we've won ONE FUCKING GAME against in the last 6 times to that building. Dallas.



Average my ass.

 

[R K]

Hogwash. You weren't watching the game I watched, then. Stars had very few quality chances and the 22 SOG is accurate because of the blocked shots and solid defense. Sure he's won a few games in a row; he's done that all season, then shit the bed. We'll see what happens...

You obviously were pulling bongs during the last 10 minutes of the 2nd period.

 

[R K]

Hawks had just as many - if not more - scoring chances. Sharp and Stalberg come to mind just off the top of the head. I think Dallas only had like 11 shots well past the halfway point of the game

I thought Dallas's chances came in the latter half of the 2nd when they were only down 2-0. Crawford made SEVERAL key saves which had a goal been allowed there it would have givne the Stars momentum.



Crawford needs to stop the "soft" goals, which in the last two games, he has. If he continues that type of play, this team will be scary.

 

[Rex]

Hogwash. You weren't watching the game I watched, then. Stars had very few quality chances and the 22 SOG is accurate because of the blocked shots and solid defense. Sure he's won a few games in a row; he's done that all season, then shit the bed. We'll see what happens...

what game DID you watch?

 

[Rex]

Hawks had just as many - if not more - scoring chances. Sharp and Stalberg come to mind just off the top of the head. I think Dallas only had like 11 shots well past the halfway point of the game

outshooting someone =/= outchancing someone.

 

[Rex]

Played well (was a +2) on the line with Sharp/Stalberg last night? I think Sharp had like 8 shots, Stalberg 3, Kruger 1...so as a line they accounted for 39% of the SOG for the team. Not sure why that line shouldn't have gotten the ice time they did or why Q should change things while they're working? Isn't that what he gets bitched at for?

so his linemates played well, that's your argument?? You are always arguing to get rid of Bolland, but stick up for someone who has been centering stars all season, and has 9 goals and 22 points in 62 games.



PS: Over half the team were + players last night.

 

[R K]

what game DID you watch?

He apparently missed 90% of the 2nd period.

 

[PatrickShart]

I never said Crawford played bad/poorly/etc (not sure if that's what you think I'm implying)



But Lethonen was tested/pressured as much as Crawford....so I didn't think it was fair to say one had a more difficult night over the other. Hawks had a few PP's he made nice stops on as well.



I think the Hawks defence did a really good job clearing rebounds. Lethonen had a ton of traffic all night - and I think there were a lot of no calls on Hawks getting dumped in front of the net.



And Kruger? My argument? That line played well. Kruger has been playing well.....so now you want Q to change the lines? When things go well...he goes with the same lineups. When they aren't creating chances, he changes things. So don't piss and moan about "line juggling" when Q does it.



All 3 lines played well. Kruger had a 3 game scoring streak going...why would you want to take him off that line? Bickell has played his best hockey of the year the last 12gms...with Bolland. Why would you change that?



You didn't think Kruger/Sharp/Stalberg played a good game? Why wouldn't Q keep putting them out there?



And Bolland had the most shifts out of any Hawk forward. So Q was tapping his back all game.



As far as his linemates...isn't that your ***** about Bolland all year....he plays with shitty linemates so he can't score?

 

[bierboy]

You obviously were pulling bongs during the last 10 minutes of the 2nd period.

I wish. I saw the game from start to finish and I stand by my opinion.

 

[bierboy]

..Crawford needs to stop the "soft" goals, which in the last two games, he has. If he continues that type of play, this team will be scary.

Stopping "soft" goals is the job of an average goaltender. That's what Crawford has been the last few games....solid, but average.

 

[Ton]

.975 save % in his last two games is not average to me. Either way he needs to continue on this roll, his problem has been consistency all year.

 

[puckjim]

Duncan Keith blows.

 

[Rex]

I never said Crawford played bad/poorly/etc (not sure if that's what you think I'm implying)



But Lethonen was tested/pressured as much as Crawford....so I didn't think it was fair to say one had a more difficult night over the other. Hawks had a few PP's he made nice stops on as well.



I think the Hawks defence did a really good job clearing rebounds. Lethonen had a ton of traffic all night - and I think there were a lot of no calls on Hawks getting dumped in front of the net.



And Kruger? My argument? That line played well. Kruger has been playing well.....so now you want Q to change the lines? When things go well...he goes with the same lineups. When they aren't creating chances, he changes things. So don't piss and moan about "line juggling" when Q does it.



All 3 lines played well. Kruger had a 3 game scoring streak going...why would you want to take him off that line? Bickell has played his best hockey of the year the last 12gms...with Bolland. Why would you change that?



You didn't think Kruger/Sharp/Stalberg played a good game? Why wouldn't Q keep putting them out there?



And Bolland had the most shifts out of any Hawk forward. So Q was tapping his back all game.



As far as his linemates...isn't that your ***** about Bolland all year....he plays with shitty linemates so he can't score?

I wasn't implying that you said Crawford played poorly, I was using your quote to further my point for Bierboy who thought that.



And I just think Bolland has deserved more of a shot than Kruger all season, and hasn't got it. Kruger has had the luxury of good linemates, Bolland has not.

 

[R K]

Stopping "soft" goals is the job of an average goaltender. That's what Crawford has been the last few games....solid, but average.

I couldn't disagree with you more for the last 5 periods he played. He was far from "average" and I stand by you watching the 2nd period again. That's where had he allowed a goal it would have given them plenty of momentum.



Average, that's fucking funny! There were some HUGE saves he made in there. I suggest you watch the highlights Tony posted.



He must have been 'average" during the shoot out as well. Stopping all three shots. I know 100% is pretty average.

 

[R K]

I wasn't implying that you said Crawford played poorly, I was using your quote to further my point for Bierboy who thought that.



And I just think Bolland has deserved more of a shot than Kruger all season, and hasn't got it. Kruger has had the luxury of good linemates, Bolland has not.

Bolland woke up last night from his sleep I thought. He's been pretty invisible IMO up until last night.

 

[R K]

.975 save % in his last two games is not average to me. Either way he needs to continue on this roll, his problem has been consistency all year.

IMO I agree but it's been a "team" issue more than goalie. Other than the occassional soft goal.



Soft goals hurt, poor team defense kills.