ACLU Challenges Florida’s Mandatory Drug Tests For Housing

[Tater]

I never realized you could get public aid for going back to school (no, I'm not being sarcastic like I usual am).

If this is true, sign me up! I'd love to finish my degree.

 

[IceHogsFan]

You may appreciate it now. Down the road your daughter may look back on this and think: "Did my dad even trust me growing up? Did he also search my room, read my diary, monitor my email to make sure I wasn't doing anything else he didn't approve of? If I can't trust him, who can I trust?"

That is laughable.



It is called parenting.

 

[klemmer]

You may appreciate it now. Down the road your daughter may look back on this and think: "Did my dad even trust me growing up? Did he also search my room, read my diary, monitor my email to make sure I wasn't doing anything else he didn't approve of? If I can't trust him, who can I trust?"

You have to be kidding.....



My kids gave me no reason to go out of my way to look, but if they left stuff in the open, it was fair game for dad's eyes.



The fact that I knew 99% of their friends also helped me keep an eye on them.

 

[R K]

That is laughable.



It is called parenting.

Yea which means you don't need the School doing it. I'd have questioned my Dad big time had he suggested I take a drug test at any time. 100%, without doubt.

 

[R K]

You have to be kidding.....



My kids gave me no reason to go out of my way to look, but if they left stuff in the open, it was fair game for dad's eyes.



The fact that I knew 99% of their friends also helped me keep an eye on them.

Then you would be the good parent you are. School is for teaching, not parenting. Again I don't think his post is so laughable. I'd have most definitely questioned my single farther parent. Did I always make the right decision, no. Did I always know my parents had my back, especially my Dad, yes. Sending me off to have someone violate my rights would have definitely had me questioning how much he trusted me to make my own decisions. Good children, from good parents, never want to disappoint those parents.

 

[R K]

I never realized you could get public aid for going back to school (no, I'm not being sarcastic like I usual am).

If this is true, sign me up! I'd love to finish my degree.

Apparently in certain states you are subject to having them violate your Constitutional Right to do so. According to the article even if you "chose" to protect your Country. Because we know all those people are drug addicts (sarcasm).

 

[klemmer]

Then you would be the good parent you are. School is for teaching, not parenting. Again I don't think his post is so laughable. I'd have most definitely questioned my single farther parent. Did I always make the right decision, no. Did I always know my parents had my back, especially my Dad, yes. Sending me off to have someone violate my rights would have definitely had me questioning how much he trusted me to make my own decisions. Good children, from good parents, never want to disappoint those parents.

You sum it up perfectly there.



I could yell or get PO'd, but the worst thing I could say to any of the kids was that they disappointed me.

 

[R K]

You sum it up perfectly there.



I could yell or get PO'd, but the worst thing I could say to any of the kids was that they disappointed me.

Same reason I wouldn't advocate my MINOR being randomly drug tested. I would most definitely expect him to second guess what I was doing. As would I have had my Father done that. It's bullshit. Stick to teaching let us be the parents. Those that chose to have children and not be parents don't superceed those that do and are.

 

[mikita's helmet]

If they left stuff in the open, it was fair game.

I said nothing about leaving stuff in the open in my post.

 

[klemmer]

I said nothing about leaving stuff in the open in my post.

I know. I covered that as well.



I told them I would trust them until they gave me reason not to.



The girls learned a lot about responsibility at a very young age. Losing their mother insured that.

 

[mikita's helmet]

I told them I would trust them until they gave me reason not to.

As did my parents. All 6 of my siblings have turned into successful, upstanding, productive citizens, myself excluded, of course.

 

[R K]

As did my parents. All 6 of my siblings have turned into successful, upstanding, productive citizens, myself excluded, of course.

Without violating your inherent rights? No way. One of you must be a bad egg.

 

[mikita's helmet]

One of you must be a bad egg.

It's me.

 

[JOVE23]

Apparently in certain states you are subject to having them violate your Constitutional Right to do so. According to the article even if you "chose" to protect your Country. Because we know all those people are drug addicts (sarcasm).

Only minorities do drugs and tuuk ur moneyz with their handouts and their welfare and their being minorities and not being the amazing race so if we can't kill 'em or enslave em we might as well do piss tests to keep them down

 

[winos5]

You may appreciate it now. Down the road your daughter may look back on this and think: "Did my dad even trust me growing up? Did he also search my room, read my diary, monitor my email to make sure I wasn't doing anything else he didn't approve of? If I can't trust him, who can I trust?"

For the record I'm guilty of all those things not because I don't have any faith in my children, but because I know teens make bad decisions irregardless of me doing my best to raise them. I also talk bluntly about drug abuse, alcohol abuse, sex, STDs ect... to the point my kids don't want to talk about it. They were getting the basics of sex ed by age 9-10.

 

[JOVE23]

For the record I'm guilty of all those things not because I don't have any faith in my children, but because I know teens make bad decisions irregardless of me doing my best to raise them. I also talk bluntly about drug abuse, alcohol abuse, sex, STDs ect... to the point my kids don't want to talk about it. They were getting the basics of sex ed by age 9-10.

Did you invite pmx over to show your kids the horrors of herpes, the clap, syphilis, etc?

 

[R K]

For the record I'm guilty of all those things not because I don't have any faith in my children, but because I know teens make bad decisions irregardless of me doing my best to raise them. I also talk bluntly about drug abuse, alcohol abuse, sex, STDs ect... to the point my kids don't want to talk about it. They were getting the basics of sex ed by age 9-10.

I'm certainly greatful my parents didn't. Just like I'm pretty sure my child is greatful I don't. Do kids make mistakes, sure. Do they get in a habbit of them, not if they have good parents they don't.

 

[winos5]

Did you invite pmx over to show your kids the horrors of herpes, the clap, syphilis, etc?

Must...Stay...Civil....

 

[winos5]

I'm certainly greatful my parents didn't. Just like I'm pretty sure my child is greatful I don't. Do kids make mistakes, sure. Do they get in a habbit of them, not if they have good parents they don't.

Perhaps, but since my oldest has already come pretty close to going to juvenile detention on a felony charge, I'm not going to be the parent crying "where did I go wrong, If only I could of stopped it...". I've seen enough examples of good kid gone bad to know sometimes it only takes one fucking mistake to ruin a life. He used up his get out jail free card. Now I'm pro-active.

 

[R K]

Well in that case he's given you a reason I suppose. So you've taken the next step. I'll let mine learn on his own until I need to step in, assuming that day ever comes, which I doubt. I think there are certain aspects. But then that's you being a parent, not the school arbitrarily doing it for you.