Adam Rank: Why I love Caleb Williams, but would still stick with Justin Fields

[PhilEBuster]

If all you can do is deflect, you don't have an argument. And you've been quite hot and heavy coming after me rather than my arguments, shoopster.

Williams-on-the-brain, indeed...

but not for me.

Lighten up, MJ, it's an old shoopster joke that you'd remember if you tried. Besides, how do I argue with a tweet from the Justin Fields Fan Club or some intern you dug up on X?

I think my opinions on Fields are already documented here, so there's no reason to continue to argue. Additionally, I think he's gone, so I'm starting to think about the future. Pudge Poles is on a roll(s) and has a tremendous opportunity in front of him. That's where the shoopster's at.

I will say one thing I've said several times before that no one seems to remember or give me credit for saying - Fields was screwed here. The Bears fvvked up his career. Now he's gotta go elsewhere and save it, no easy feat in the NFL. I'm sure he's tremendously disappointed in how this has turned out and also pretty pi55ed, so like so many other ex-Bears who have made their way through the dysfunction and found real NFL teams on the other side, he'll probably look back and say this is for the best. I don't think he'll ever be "elite," but he'll have a good NFL career, and probably get opportunities to start somewhere as the years go by. Maybe even next year.

The Bears have a terrible reputation amongst NFL players for reasons like this, not (only) because they're cheap or because Soldier Field is a dump or because their ownership is a collection of out-of-date old codgers - but (primarily) because they hire undeserving Head Coaches who have no idea what they're doing and try to have them learn on the job, negatively impacting playing careers. Trubisky is content enough - actually prefers - standing on the sideline holding a clipboard. There was probably no saving him. But in Fields, the Bears fvvked up a legitimate NFL player. He'll survive, but has been done a tremendous disservice. At least he got the money . . .

 

[PrideisBears]

please! the mods love letting any stupid pro Fields threads/posts fly.
Like the thread where 80% of the OP's 6th grade class wants Fields back.
If you start a thread that doesn't teabag Justin, it gets buried in the Justin Fields default thread.

First off that’s an insult to @BaBaBlacksheep and @bamainatlanta . They are pretty objective when it comes to fields and I want him traded to get away from this dumpster fire anyway

Second even if a pro Fields thread is made, you and like 6 others swarm to it like pest anyways and completely ***** throughout the thread so how does it remain “Pro Fields”

Third I haven’t deleted ANY threads recently so stop being a giant dry **** and why do pro fields threads bother you? Do you want the starting QB to fail? What a shit fan you are

Finally if the modding bugs you so much there are multiple outlets for you to utilize. Try twitter, Reddit or go to comment on a Pornhub video for all we care, you don’t need to be here and I doubt any of us will wake up and say “ Damn, I sure miss Luke and him cunting about Fields”

 

[PrideisBears]

The logic that taking Williams costs you multiple first rounders is so idiotic.

You know what actually cost us multiple first rounders which hampered our rebuild? Trading up for Fields.

There is absolutely a benefit to taking a QB with a pick you already own, as you get to avoid the QB Trade-Up premium.

We weren’t rebuilding when trading up for Fields, Pace was just trying to save his job after doing everything to help Mitch succeed

 

[MDB111™]

First off that’s an insult to @BaBaBlacksheep and @bamainatlanta . They are pretty objective when it comes to fields and I want him traded to get away from this dumpster fire anyway

Second even if a pro Fields thread is made, you and like 6 others swarm to it like pest anyways and completely ***** throughout the thread so how does it remain “Pro Fields”

Third I haven’t deleted ANY threads recently so stop being a giant dry **** and why do pro fields threads bother you? Do you want the starting QB to fail? What a shit fan you are

Finally if the modding bugs you so much there are multiple outlets for you to utilize. Try twitter, Reddit or go to comment on a Pornhub video for all we care, you don’t need to be here and I doubt any of us will wake up and say “ Damn, I sure miss Luke and him cunting about Fields”

Luke seems like a real dick wad.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Good luck with that. It's been Planet of the Apes:Rise of the Ritards for a while now.

Are you STILL upset? You having a bad day?

 

[PrideisBears]

Good luck with that. It's been Planet of the Apes:Rise of the Ritards for a while now.

You know the Apes in that movie ended up being smarter than humans?

 

[PrideisBears]

Luke seems like a real dick wad.

He is

 

[MDB111™]

Are you STILL upset? You having a bad day?

huh?

 

[MDB111™]

You know the Apes in that movie ended up being smarter than humans?

Heard it here first folks. MJY, Dblpoo,Shitstain,Luke etc. All smarter than humans

 

[Spitta Andretti]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740777838125724082

not a big Caleb guy but this video is so out of context when Caleb is still there with the team and other players that transferred are not

whos to say they arent talking about other guys?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

not a big Caleb guy but this video is so out of context when Caleb is still there with the team and other players that transferred are not

whos to say they arent talking about other guys?

Riiiight.

Copium?

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Riiiight.

Copium?

Why would I need copium when I dont want Williams

 

[RiDLer80]

Drake Maye > Caleb Williams

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Riiiight.

Copium?

Fat idiot?

 

[I Just Want To Read]

We weren’t rebuilding when trading up for Fields, Pace was just trying to save his job after doing everything to help Mitch succeed

We were on the downslide with Mack in decline. But yes it was a weird combination of Pace acting desperately and Fields surprisingly slipping (although we ended up paying a steep price in terms of cost to trade up).

But the Mack trade and Fields trade essentially put us in NFL debt when it comes to draft capital. Which is a big reason why the team was so barren talent wise.

Would be a completely different story with Caleb Williams as we are already ascending and already have an extra 1st and 2nd to play with without even mentioning any draft capital we'd receive when trading Fields.

 

[bamainatlanta]

We were on the downslide with Mack in decline. But yes it was a weird combination of Pace acting desperately and Fields surprisingly slipping (although we ended up paying a steep price in terms of cost to trade up).

But the Mack trade and Fields trade essentially put us in NFL debt when it comes to draft capital. Which is a big reason why the team was so barren talent wise.

Would be a completely different story with Caleb Williams as we are already ascending and already have an extra 1st and 2nd to play with without even mentioning any draft capital we'd receive when trading Fields.

It’s part of the reason but not the sole reason. Pace just missed on too many high round picks.

White, Floyd, Trubisky, Miller, Shaheen, etc.,

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Why would I need copium when I dont want Williams

You'll have to excuse MJY. Objectivity is the snake oil of the world he lives in.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Some really good stuff here from Adam Rank joining the CHGO podcast guys.

Chicago Bears Twitter CIVIL WAR: Adam Rank on Justin Fields vs Caleb Williams | CHGO Bears Podcast

The fighting has reached a new level amongst Chicago Bears fans. Keep Justin, draft Caleb. Adam Rank has been a big supporter of Fields. He joins to start th...

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I don’t agree with everything he says, but he’s a really earnest good dude, and I enjoyed this episode.

Some highlighted comments:

-Poles has likely already made up his mind on Fields, and Rank believes if he moves off of Fields, it will likely happen before free agency.

-Matt Eberflus’ future is still wide open. Rank seems to actually be a little pessimistic on Eberflus staying, saying that a constant theme for the Bears during his tenure—win or lose—is coming into a game unprepared. Closing has obviously also been a big bugaboo. A loss to Green Bay, especially if the Bears look bad while losing, could be it for Eberflus.

-Rank loves Caleb Williams, says it’s ridiculous to compare him with other top QBs in recent years. He’s a “much better” prospect than the likes of Bryce Young. He also says Caleb Williams will be a “great” QB in the NFL.

^^^At the same time, he says even though he thinks Williams will be great, it’s a question of whole-roster building. Taking Caleb Williams is in essence costing you 3 first rounders (I disagree with him on this logic, but see where he’s coming from). So taking Williams has the potential to cost you greatly in your quest to build a great team.

-Aside from trading Justin Fields before free agency, the single biggest thing that will indicate the Bears are moving on from Fields is if they sign or trade for a good WR before the draft, because that would indicate they’re not taking MHJ (I again disagree with him here, but I get it. In fact, I would argue that the single biggest sign of the Bears moving on from Fields would be if they fire Eberflus on Black Monday, which I personally don’t think will happen.)

-He talks about how it’s a shame that a fanbase with as much passion, history and tradition as the Chicago Bears has become a cesspool of personally attacking people who disagree with you. It’s possible to disagree and not devolve into name-calling, he says. (I agree, but I would just add that that’s not unique to Bears fandom, and in the age of social media, it’s inevitable—in sports, in life, in politics, in entertainment, etc.)


Anyway, thought some of you might enjoy this episode.

Good stuff, thanks.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Good stuff, thanks.

Good post!

 

[HeHateMe]

Good post!

Thanks