Alfonso Soriano for the right price

[Rice Cube]

MLBTR blurb via Rosenthal:

Rosenthal On Votto, Alonso, Rangers, Soriano: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Guess it depends on how much the Cubs are willing to eat, but this is something to watch as well. I don't think he's flat out released, but if the Cubs eat money they might still come out ahead even if nothing comes back in prospects. The salary relief is still helpful.

 

[waldo7239117]

Teams Interested in Alfonso Soriano |

According to Ken Rosenthal, teams are “kicking the tires” on outfielder Alfonso Soriano. Rosenthal was told that the Cubs would pay a significant amount of his contract in order to trade him. Alfonso Soriano still has 3 years and 54 million remaining on his contract.

You have to expect most of the teams that are calling have to be American League teams. Since they can use Soriano as the designated hitter. However, National league teams could call too…maybe for him to come off the bench. Soriano’s career is passed where he plays in the field. He’s just too old and injury prone now. Also, he has never been a good defender. One team that comes to mind are the Boston Red Sox…they could be in need for a DH if David Ortiz does in fact leave free agency. We have heard the Yankees connected with Soriano before. The other teams are a toss up then.

The Cubs signed Alfonso Soriano in 2007 to a 8 year, 136 million contract. The Cubs gave Soriano that contract after he has a wonderful year with the Nats the year before. The soon-to-be 36 year old (January 7th), has been declining and the Cubs don’t know how to play with him anymore. He has dealt with leg injuries over his Cubs career and can’t lead-off anymore. The Cubs eventually put him in the middle of the order, so he can drive in runs. However, Fonzie strikes out too much and that plan failed too. Also, the Cubs eventually take him out late in ball games due to his defensive woes. Now that’s why the Cubs want to trade Soriano and have been trying to deal him for a year or two now.

Mr. Ricketts told Team Theo that they can eat any contract if it would better the club. To be honest, doing anything to get rid of Soriano, would better the club. The Cubs have top prospect Brett Jackon in wait and will be reading in 2012 to contribute. Also, the Cubs could make a play for OF Cuban’ Yoenis Cespedes. So…they need an open space in the OF. I have to admit, this is the first time I think Alfonso Soriano will actually be traded. The Cubs won’t get much, but one or two low tier ‘spects. But it’s still better than nothing.

This can gain steam heading to the Winter Meetings.

 

[bbaker]

That contract gives me nightmares. I hope we can unload Soriano for even just 1-2 prospects.

 

[Rice Cube]

I think if they could save $15-$20MM of the remaining contract, don't even need prospects back. Any prospects you get back will probably just be minor league roster filler anyway.

 

[waldo7239117]

I think if they could save $15-$20MM of the remaining contract, don't even need prospects back. Any prospects you get back will probably just be minor league roster filler anyway.

In the article I wrote...I said 1 or 2 low tier 'sepcts.

 

[daddies3angels]

If Cubs eat about 40 mil that make him around 5-6 mil ball player for another team. I would want 1 or 2 decent specs..

 

[Captain Obvious]

Also, he has never been a good defender.

That's just not true. He has been a good defender in LF.

 

[waldo7239117]

That's just not true. He has been a good defender in LF.

Lol ok... **** the stats, just watching him will tell you it's not true. Also, LF's suck, so you can't say that. I'm sticking to what I said.

 

[Rice Cube]

Lol ok... **** the stats, just watching him will tell you it's not true. Also, LF's suck, so you can't say that. I'm sticking to what I said.

That's just not true. He has been a good defender in LF.

To quell the inevitable flame war, my argument is that during his initial shift to LF, Soriano made up for his shortcomings with speed (superior range) and arm strength (preventing the extra base). It doesn't mean he's a good defender, it means he was effective. "Good" is more qualitative, but you can measure the runs he was able to prevent as an aggregate despite his errors and miscues.

When he lost that speed, he lost the edge he needed to be that effective defensive player.

So it's not wrong to say that Soriano is a bad defender. But it is wrong to say he wasn't effective at some point.

Moving on...

 

[WindyCity7]

im willing to get rid of this unused soriano jersey i have for the right price too

 

[Rice Cube]

im willing to get rid of this unused soriano jersey i have for the right price too

If you really want to give it away, I don't mind taking it off your hands

 

[The Bandit]

If Cubs eat about 40 mil that make him around 5-6 mil ball player for another team. I would want 1 or 2 decent specs..

That won't happen. Period. If we can save half that contract for nothing we will be lucky.

 

[daddies3angels]

That won't happen. Period. If we can save half that contract for nothing we will be lucky.

I read article today where they broke down Soriano numbers to other DH in AL, He would have been 2nd in HR, 2nd in RBI, 8th in AVG. So as you can see he still has value being a DH!!! So an AL team taking on 15 mil for 3 years is nothing. So if Cubs do eat 40 mil they should get something decent back. Im not saying top spec but couple of mid level

 

[The Bandit]

I read article today where they broke down Soriano numbers to other DH in AL, He would have been 2nd in HR, 2nd in RBI, 8th in AVG. So as you can see he still has value being a DH!!! So an AL team taking on 15 mil for 3 years is nothing. So if Cubs do eat 40 mil they should get something decent back. Im not saying top spec but couple of mid level

I read that article the other day. It doesn't change the fact that Soriano doesn't have any trade value whats so ever. If we eat the majority of the contract were gonna get a couple of low A nobodys at the most. It's a salary dump, you don't get half decent prospects in a salary dump. That team is taking your headache away from you. Anything you get back after that is an added bonus.

 

[daddies3angels]

I read that article the other day. It doesn't change the fact that Soriano doesn't have any trade value whats so ever. If we eat the majority of the contract were gonna get a couple of low A nobodys at the most. It's a salary dump, you don't get half decent prospects in a salary dump. That team is taking your headache away from you. Anything you get back after that is an added bonus.

He has NO trade value if Cubs dont eat 80% of contract. BUT he does if he only a 5 mil per year DH! Teams will look at that and give up more.

 

[The Bandit]

He has NO trade value if Cubs dont eat 80% of contract. BUT he does if he only a 5 mil per year DH! Teams will look at that and give up more.

When the Cubs trade Soriano and most of his contract for basically nothing you can leave this board and save me a headache every day ok?

 

[daddies3angels]

When the Cubs trade Soriano and most of his contract for basically nothing you can leave this board and save me a headache every day ok?

Cubs just wont trade him and most of contract for nothing. They would be just stupid management of team. They would rather get his production then just let him go for nothing to another team. Do you know baseball at all? Sounds like you know dogfighting more then baseball!

 

[The Bandit]

Cubs just wont trade him and most of contract for nothing. They would be just stupid management of team. They would rather get his production then just let him go for nothing to another team. Do you know baseball at all? Sounds like you know dogfighting more then baseball!

the guy is worthless to us now. Why do we need him? He can't field, he strikes out to much he is owed a shitload of money he is injury prone, we still have byrd, we have Jackson coming up we have Colvin. Where does he fit on this team? You think other teams don't know we want to get rid of him for whatever we can? Do I know baseball? Yeah I know how to play it to. I doubt you ever even stepped on a field let alone have the brains to figure out our team blows right now and learn to speak proper english. but hey im the idiot here my bad.

 

[daddies3angels]

the guy is worthless to us now. Why do we need him? He can't field, he strikes out to much he is owed a shitload of money he is injury prone, we still have byrd, we have Jackson coming up we have Colvin. Where does he fit on this team? You think other teams don't know we want to get rid of him for whatever we can? Do I know baseball? Yeah I know how to play it to. I doubt you ever even stepped on a field let alone have the brains to figure out our team blows right now and learn to speak proper english. but hey im the idiot here my bad.

Byrd is OVERATED!!! He average everthing. .280 hitter, 10 HR, no SB, DEF is ok for CF. Colvin is a poor Soriano, and Jackson we have no idea how he do in MLB. Soriano is still the Cubs MOST PRODUCTIVE OF!!! Of course he's not worth that contract. To say he dont fit in is a joke. Yes i would like to see him be traded, but i dont trade him for nothing. Again a AL team would give up something IF the Cubs eat about 40 mil. Thats going to be up to Theo and Hoyer if its worth it. As for me not every playing baseball i played since i was 5 y/o and till end of my college career. I threw in the low 90's and did well. I had to give up baseball to take care of my daughter who was in hospital for first year of her life and had trached for 3 years. I am lucky enough to stay home with her and WATCH about 500 games a year of baseball. So i know my baseball

 

[The Bandit]

Byrd is OVERATED!!! He average everthing. .280 hitter, 10 HR, no SB, DEF is ok for CF. Colvin is a poor Soriano, and Jackson we have no idea how he do in MLB. Soriano is still the Cubs MOST PRODUCTIVE OF!!! Of course he's not worth that contract. To say he dont fit in is a joke. Yes i would like to see him be traded, but i dont trade him for nothing. Again a AL team would give up something IF the Cubs eat about 40 mil. Thats going to be up to Theo and Hoyer if its worth it.

I seriously want to see you run a team. I really wanna see it. It would be hilarious to watch the amount of failure you would succeed. Byrd is average with 1 year left and what 7 mil left? Soriano is a bum who cant field cant hit for any sort of average decent power and no speed at all. Oh and he is owed 3 years and 54 million bucks. Byrds more favorable for us then soriano is for us right now.