Alshon is untradeable.

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then team team a would have to out bid all the other 31 teams in the off season really

Essentially they would have to do the same for Alshon plus give up a pick(s). If Team A is willing to pay the amount Alshon wants then let him hit the market. A yr or a mil would be worth the risk and save the pick(s). You have to remember Alshon would have to sign a M.O.A. Prior to the trade for the new contract.
 

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I shouldn't have to but I will educate the obvious. If team A trades value for Alshon. Team A gets a guy under contract for 9 games. Team A is trading value for the future of Alshon who will be UFA. Team A must give the Bears good value for the Bears to entertain the offer. Team A is looking at future not some rookie contract with 9 games left in the season in turn for good/great value. C'mon man this is obvious.

What the heck are you talking about? When teams execute trades the traded player routinely gets a new deal with the team he is traded to.
 

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exactly now however their is no rule stating we cant trade AJ. Therefore team can give up whatever they want and they can pay him whatever they want at the end of the year.if AJ is not wanting to be a bear and say the Denver wants him and aj is ufa at the end of the year and signs a big contract with Denver ? really and even if for some reason they don't witch never happens that's is Denver rolling the dice nothing that says it cant be done that I am aware of.

Holy shit NO there is no "rule". Damn bro have you been paying attention?
 

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What the heck are you talking about? When teams execute trades the traded player routinely gets a new deal with the team he is traded to.

Wow just wow.

You guys are not looking at the total situation. Yes I know players get extensions on contracts with new teams. The issue at hand is he a high value UFA. Alshon can tell team A **** you in 9 games and Team A lose the player and the high pick(s). Yes team A can negotiate the new contract prior to trade but Alshon would have to sign a MOA. Now team A gave up high value pick(s) for a UFA player that agreed to the high priced contract. Why would Team A pay Alshons price and include pick(s) when he hits the market they can pay the money, they already know he wants, and save the pick(s) on a UFA.

If the price goes up its a market price that the league knows he falls. Team A could add the years or the little mil but save the pick(s). The price also may go down.
 

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Wow just wow.

You guys are not looking at the total situation. Yes I know players get extensions on contracts with new teams. The issue at hand is he a high value UFA. Alshon can tell team A **** you in 9 games and Team A lose the player and the high pick(s). Yes team A can negotiate the new contract prior to trade but Alshon would have to sign a MOA. Now team A gave up high value pick(s) for a UFA player that agreed to the high priced contract. Why would Team A pay Alshons price and include pick(s) when he hits the market they can pay the money, they already know he wants, and save the pick(s) on a UFA.

If the price goes up its a market price that the league knows he falls. Team A could add the years or the little mil but save the pick(s). The price also may go down.
cause maybe they don't want to bid with 31 other team ??????????
 

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cause maybe they don't want to bid with 31 other team ??????????

Preposterous. Alshon is untradeable. You heard it from Chicago Staleys. Close the ***** up, already.
 

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Wow just wow.

You guys are not looking at the total situation. Yes I know players get extensions on contracts with new teams. The issue at hand is he a high value UFA. Alshon can tell team A **** you in 9 games and Team A lose the player and the high pick(s). Yes team A can negotiate the new contract prior to trade but Alshon would have to sign a MOA. Now team A gave up high value pick(s) for a UFA player that agreed to the high priced contract. Why would Team A pay Alshons price and include pick(s) when he hits the market they can pay the money, they already know he wants, and save the pick(s) on a UFA.

If the price goes up its a market price that the league knows he falls. Team A could add the years or the little mil but save the pick(s). The price also may go down.

You're over-complicating this. If it's true that Alshon wants out and the Bears want to trade him they contact the team of his choice and work out the specifics of a trade and compensation the Bears would receive. His new team gives him a new contract (not an extension) as soon as the trade is completed. What you're describing happens in the NBA, not the NFL.
 

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If this conversation regarding Team A is going to continue, can we give Team A a name? Like the Dinosaurs or Sharks or something? I'm getting sick of Team A. And why is Team A so interested in Alshon? What are they looking for?
 

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You're over-complicating this. If it's true that Alshon wants out and the Bears want to trade him they contact the team of his choice and work out the specifics of a trade and compensation the Bears would receive. His new team gives him a new contract (not an extension) as soon as the trade is completed. What you're describing happens in the NBA, not the NFL.

The NFL is complicated. Extension to current rookie contract or new deal at expiration is moot.

The Bears would never get the value in return. In 13days we will know for sure.
 

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The NFL is complicated. Extension to current rookie contract or new deal at expiration is moot.

The Bears would never get the value in return. In 13days we will know for sure.

Hey I don't want him traded either, but what you were saying was incorrect.
 

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Wow just wow.

You guys are not looking at the total situation. Yes I know players get extensions on contracts with new teams. The issue at hand is he a high value UFA. Alshon can tell team A **** you in 9 games and Team A lose the player and the high pick(s). Yes team A can negotiate the new contract prior to trade but Alshon would have to sign a MOA. Now team A gave up high value pick(s) for a UFA player that agreed to the high priced contract. Why would Team A pay Alshons price and include pick(s) when he hits the market they can pay the money, they already know he wants, and save the pick(s) on a UFA.

If the price goes up its a market price that the league knows he falls. Team A could add the years or the little mil but save the pick(s). The price also may go down.

Trade can be contingent on Alshon and that team working something out. If not, no trade or lower value. This is a situation where a team wants him now and doesn't want to compete for FA later. Alshon is getting paid either way and if he doesn't like it here, there's probably a couple teams to talk to that would be good for all concerned. Yes, it's no slam dunk but also not impossible.
I also hope that he and the Bears patch it up but it was this regime that dumped his buddy.
 

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If this conversation regarding Team A is going to continue, can we give Team A a name? Like the Dinosaurs or Sharks or something? I'm getting sick of Team A. And why is Team A so interested in Alshon? What are they looking for?

I like Sharks (any given Sunday). I have no idea why a team would be so interested at giving a high value pick(s) for a UFA or signing a MOA on a multimillion dollar contract worth upward of 10plus then add signing bonus for Alshon (RIGHT NOW). In the next 13 days he could only play 1game. Members of this board, as you can see on the home page, think we can just trade him like he is Brady and teams will blindly pay.
 

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Hey I don't want him traded either, but what you were saying was incorrect.

I want him here for the long run. He is a young talent on a team that needs to rebuild.
I don't think I'm wrong. I think he is untradeable to the Bears.
 

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I like Sharks (any given Sunday). I have no idea why a team would be so interested at giving a high value pick(s) for a UFA or signing a MOA on a multimillion dollar contract worth upward of 10plus then add signing bonus for Alshon (RIGHT NOW). In the next 13 days he could only play 1game. Members of this board, as you can see on the home page, think we can just trade him like he is Brady and teams will blindly pay.

You're making this more difficult than it needs to be. He is tradeable, but the Bears might not get proper value for him. Either way I don't believe he gets traded.
 

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Can we please stop with the idea that we can trade Alshon. It's commonsense that he is untradeable. If you understand anything about UFA's or the Franchise Tag and have a little commonsense you will see he is not tradeable.

No team in this league will trade for a player with the value of Alshon on a tag. It makes no-sense to do so and the bears would want a lot of value in return for Alshon. A team will not give a high draft pick(s) for a tagged player making top 5 money for a 1 year deal then HOPE to sign a long term deal. If Alshon walks from the new team look at the expense that team gave up. Its ridiculous to conjure.

Awwwwwwww it looks like someone needed some attention again.
 

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