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An Indiana fan not opposed to Rose sitting out of the whole season.
Who would've thought?
An Indiana fan not opposed to Rose sitting out of the whole season.
Who would've thought?
houheffna
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lol...the team doesn't need more shooters...the team needs someone who can create his own shot. You don't have a second guy...and that is what you need. Deng is not a second guy. He is not good enough. Get all the shooters you want. If Rose doesn't get another guy that creates for himself on this team, he is going to go ringless most likely.
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Given that this is what the Bulls' salary situation is going to look like for the next 5 seasons with the team as it stands today, what would be the best move (aside from using the amnesty on Boozer as mgt. has said they are going to use the amnesty on anyone).
Chicago Bulls Team Salary | HOOPSWORLD | Basketball News & NBA Rumors
What's the best move? I say it may be time to part ways with Deng. I love the guy, but his salary has got the Bulls hamstrung along with Boozer. With Lucas and James coming off the books and Asik not commanding too much with an extension, I think they can make a move for a scoring SG to play alongside Rose when he comes back.
The problem I see is Deng's surgery. When he has it is going to determine what the Bulls can do. I say Keep Korver. His offense is much needed on this team. They can waive Brewer and Watson and that will save them $7.5 Million for the both of them. Would that be enough to lure someone to play here? They could also waive Korver and sign him to less money, provided no other team picks him up.
They have to get rid of the 27-29.5 Million that they would owe Deng and Boozer and make a move for someone. Don't know how it ill happen, but this is needed at this point.
Problem with that is, Bulls mgt. has stated they are keeping most of the players they have, so this is all moot.
Chicago Bulls Team Salary | HOOPSWORLD | Basketball News & NBA Rumors
What's the best move? I say it may be time to part ways with Deng. I love the guy, but his salary has got the Bulls hamstrung along with Boozer. With Lucas and James coming off the books and Asik not commanding too much with an extension, I think they can make a move for a scoring SG to play alongside Rose when he comes back.
The problem I see is Deng's surgery. When he has it is going to determine what the Bulls can do. I say Keep Korver. His offense is much needed on this team. They can waive Brewer and Watson and that will save them $7.5 Million for the both of them. Would that be enough to lure someone to play here? They could also waive Korver and sign him to less money, provided no other team picks him up.
They have to get rid of the 27-29.5 Million that they would owe Deng and Boozer and make a move for someone. Don't know how it ill happen, but this is needed at this point.
Problem with that is, Bulls mgt. has stated they are keeping most of the players they have, so this is all moot.
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Talk about moving the damn goalposts...good grief...lol
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I see the Bulls getting the 5th seed in the East.
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This season was this season, next season is next season. And going forward, the Bulls need to do something given Rose's injury and Deng's surgery and where they stand in the salary cap and luxury tax situation.
But of course instead of commenting on what I said, go ahead and attack me. Have fun. People are entitled to change their minds.
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You are absolutely entitled to change your mind...and for the most part, I agree with your opinion. It is just that you spent months knocking people who already felt that way. You attacked people directly or through one of your "yeah, let's trade the whole damn team for Dwight Howard and then win titles..." posts. I even asked you to stop doing that stuff.
But I am glad that you are coming around.
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Because I felt that this seasons team "when healthy" could beat anyone and that hasn't changed. But this team won't be healthy for a good part of next season and they are getting closer and closer to the luxury tax, so with salaries coming off the books, they have a chance to make a move to improve the team. maybe they don't get another superstar, but if they can get defenders that are capable scores from long range, then they should look into it.
That's foolish not to think so. My knocks against Howard was also based on him not wanting to come here. So why entertain it?
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I agree with this. The bulls may have a golden opportunity. That injury to robinson in 97 brought them duncan.
Just as jordan breaking his ankle back in 86 brought the bulls scottie pippen.
The result was multiple championships for both teams
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I mean why would we need shooters who can knock down open shots right? I mean they don't spread the floor or anything to open lanes to the bask....oh wait....
I never said we didn't need another guy to create his own shot, but those players don't grow on trees. You can find more quality shooters, for cheaper, who will help take the burden off Rose. Christ we were the best passing team in the NBA this year. We got open looks ALL THE TIME. The problem was knocking down those shots.
But you're right, we don't need shooters. We need Westbrook, or Melo, or Wade, or (insert any other star player) to ever have a shot at winning anything.
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Well...I don't think we absolutely NEED another star to win, BUT it would sure make things a heck of a lot easier yeah? Or say what happens if Rose can't do crap against Lebron in the ECF again? Having another option sure would be nice there. That would put Deng or Boozer as the 3rd option on offense (since I assume one of them, probably Deng would be gone in a deal to get that player) and THAT is a pretty dangerous team.
You win with star power. We got one. The Heat have three. The Thunder have 2 and James Harden. Spurs pretty much have three as well. Lakers have two and a borderline one in Bynum. Celtics won with three.
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Look, I never said we don't need another versatile scorer on this team. And of course it would make things easier that goes without saying. Those players aren't easily attained. And this "If we don't get another star we'll never win anything" mentality I do not agree with. Rose is a slasher. He needs the floor spread out. Good shooters accomplish that. Why do you think Parker has so many easy lanes to the hoop? With how good this team is defensively & how well they pass the ball, more consistent shooters will only make us more of a contender than we were this season.
But with Rose being out, no Deng, we have no chance of winning anything this coming season & with no other star we have no shot ever so why should I even bother? :shrug:
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mcgrady finally gets his wish to play for the bulls
and he still aint gettin pass 1st round
and he still aint gettin pass 1st round
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And what have they won exactly? Squat. They tried that in New York, how did that work out for them? Oh, yeah they lost in the first round. OKC is coming up, but they haven't won jack wit their stars either.
Kobe won with his stars, but they also had capable shooter and defenders and excellent coaching to help out and don't look now, but the lakers are 2 games away from going fishing, so much for star power.
The Bulls need dependable shooters that can defend. Right now, they need another solid scorer, only because Rose will be out for a good part of the season and neither Boozer, nor Deng can be relied up to get 20-25 a night.
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No it didn't
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Rose is also 6'3" tall. Can you think of ANY player that short winning a title as the main guy, with no real main option to score after him...with nobody that can create a shot for themselves? Let me know when you find that guy.
Isiah had guys that could create a shot...on the perimeter...in the post. There is one guy who was surrounded with a bunch of shooters. Olajuwon...and he was a much better player than Rose is. Notwithstanding he is a foot taller.
You surround Rose with Kerr, Paxson, B.J. type players...they don't win a title.
I couldn't do that with Jordan, why would you try to do that with Rose?
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Dude just wanted to bring Pippen into the conversation...lol.
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Actually, the Bulls traded Olden Polynice (picked at #8) and their second-round pick (Sylvester Gray), and their 1989 first-rounder to the Sonics for Scottie Pippen (#5) and the Sonics 1989 first-rounder, who turned out to be Jeff Sanders. What's ironic is that the Bulls ended up getting back that '89 first-rounder for Brad Sellers and turned it into BJ Armstrong.
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I agree with Hou that stockpiling the team with the shooters won't be the thing that helps us win the title. Sure, it would help to have more shooters.. but it wouldn't push us over the edge.
The cavs tried surrounding LeBron with shooters [Mo williams, Gibson, west, parker, etc.] to help space the floor. It helped. LeBron was able to drive to the rim and had 2-3 options on the outside just in case he got stuck or wound up with a bad look. But did that bring them a title? No. The Cavs then, just like the Bulls now, NEED another star player/scorer.
The cavs tried surrounding LeBron with shooters [Mo williams, Gibson, west, parker, etc.] to help space the floor. It helped. LeBron was able to drive to the rim and had 2-3 options on the outside just in case he got stuck or wound up with a bad look. But did that bring them a title? No. The Cavs then, just like the Bulls now, NEED another star player/scorer.