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Strange we just drafted Jenkins in the 2nd round and still have a 2nd rounder next year. We also have 36m in cap space with 44 players under contract so not sure what you are talking about.
Lol. oh boy! you got a second rounder next year (assuming Pace doesn't trade that away). You also either need to resign AR or find another WR1. you also need to extend Roquan, Daniels, and Bush, or replace them.
 

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I was thinking a team that’s a threat to win the division. The Lions have never won the NFCN. Fucking pathetic lul
You have only beaten the packers 3 times in ten years, pathetic!!
 

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Lol. oh boy! you got a second rounder next year (assuming Pace doesn't trade that away). You also either need to resign AR or find another WR1. you also need to extend Roquan, Daniels, and Bush, or replace them.
Nope. Roquan can play on the 5th year option next year which is already included in the cap at 9.7 million. Daniels can walk, and Bush is our 3rd safety. That 2nd rounder can be spent on OL if necessary and we will also have money to sign one impact OL if we want. It simply is not as big a deal as you claim. Sorry. And 2023, we have all of our picks.

So either Jenkins, Borom, Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher show they can be the long term OL this year or we can find replacements in FA and the draft for 2 or 3 of them. It only because an issue if they all falter which is unlikely.
 
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he is having a very very good camp with Goff. AR was good with MT, right?
A good WR is going to see more opportunities then a good TE (Most of time). I’m not doubting his skill set, he’s a good TE. But it can be more difficult for a TE to have a successful season with a new QB. Especially one who didn’t use his TEs that much for his precious team
 

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Nope. Roquan can play on the 5th year option next year which is already included in the cap at 9.7 million. Daniels can walk, and Bush is our 3rd safety. That 2nd rounder can be spent on OL if necessary and we will also have money to sign one impact OL if we want. It simply is not as big a deal as you claim. Sorry. And 2023, we have all of our picks.

So either Jenkins, Borom, Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher show they can be the long term OL this year or we can find replacements in FA and the draft for 2 or 3 of them. It only because an issue if they all falter which is unlikely.
And Roquan can and probably would hold out for an extension, you didn't address WR1, let along the glaring need for secondary help, toss in another 10 mil to fill the roster to 52, and you now have two positions to fill on the OL.
 

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A good WR is going to see more opportunities then a good TE (Most of time). I’m not doubting his skill set, he’s a good TE. But it can be more difficult for a TE to have a successful season with a new QB. Especially one who didn’t use his TEs that much for his precious team
Lol, you really don't have a clue what your talking about do you?

"For further Hockenson hype, consider that Goff’s last two seasons have featured plenty of tight end production. He targeted the position at a 22% clip, which ranks 10th-highest since 2019. The new Lions quarterback also ranked fifth in passing yards (2,102) and fifth in total attempts (264) to TEs.

Keep in mind that Goff fueled Tyler Higbee‘s infamous 2019 late-season breakout. If Goff could make an elite tight end out of Higbee — albeit for just a small stretch of games — then he surely can get Hockenson fully there next season.
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And Roquan can and probably would hold out for an extension, you didn't address WR1, let along the glaring need for secondary help, toss in another 10 mil to fill the roster to 52, and you now have two positions to fill on the OL.

Nope. The fines and the loss of an accrued season pretty much ends holdouts. Hence why there have been zero holdouts. ARob took his franchise tag and Rodgers ultimately reported. The players fucked themselves in the new CBA. You are forgetting that Leonard and Warner were 2nd rounders so this was their last year before FA. Since Quan was a first rounder and we could pick up the 5th year, there is no urgency to his deal and his cap hits will come in 2023 not 2022. Warner's cap hit for example is only 3.6 million this year and 8.6 million next year despite his huge deal. So even if we extend Quan next year, his cap hit is not going to be huge for 2022.

Again there are 9 roster spots open. The Bears have 5 picks. That leaves 4 open roster spots. ARob or a new WR gets 1 of them. Daniels or a new OL gets one of them. The other 2 spots can go to fill needs not addressed with the 5 draft picks. So you could easily go OL, S, WR, CB and LB/DL with those draft picks.

So you are simply wrong on this. Any deal for ARob or new OL will have low cap hits in 2022 and defer the bigger cap hits to 2023 when the new TV deal kicks in and when we are projected to have 83m in cap space. It simply is not an issue.

I should also add, Edwards, Atta, Gipson are all around for 2022. So if Quinn does not step up this year then he is probably a June 1 cut next year which frees up another 13 million. So if 2 of those guys are solid this year then Quinn is probably gone.
 
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Nope. The fines and the loss of an accrued season pretty much ends holdouts. Hence why there have been zero holdouts. ARob took his franchise tag and Rodgers ultimately reported. The players fucked themselves in the new CBA. The the reality is they would most likely extend Roquan and push his big cap numbers out to 2023 not 2022 so his situation is really a non-issue for 2022.

Again there are 9 roster spots open. The Bears have 5 picks. That leaves 4 open roster spots. ARob or a new WR gets 1 of them. Daniels or a new OL gets one of them. The other 2 spots can go to fill needs not addressed with the 5 draft picks. So you could easily go OL, S, WR, CB and LB/DL with those draft picks.

So you are simply wrong on this. Any deal for ARob or new OL will have low cap hits in 2022 and defer the bigger cap hits to 2023 when the new TV deal kicks in and when we are projected to have 83m in cap space. It simply is not an issue.
Arob currently accounts for 0 cap hit in 2022, so your wrong on this. Even a 10 mil cap hit is significant when the Bears only have 36 mil total. And your making asinine assumptions about 5-7 rnd picks becoming starters.
 

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Nope. The fines and the loss of an accrued season pretty much ends holdouts. Hence why there have been zero holdouts. ARob took his franchise tag and Rodgers ultimately reported. The players fucked themselves in the new CBA. The reality is they would most likely extend Roquan and push his big cap numbers out to 2023 not 2022 so his situation is really a non-issue for 2022.

Again there are 9 roster spots open. The Bears have 5 picks. That leaves 4 open roster spots. ARob or a new WR gets 1 of them. Daniels or a new OL gets one of them. The other 2 spots can go to fill needs not addressed with the 5 draft picks. So you could easily go OL, S, WR, CB and LB/DL with those draft picks.

So you are simply wrong on this. Any deal for ARob or new OL will have low cap hits in 2022 and defer the bigger cap hits to 2023 when the new TV deal kicks in and when we are projected to have 83m in cap space. It simply is not an issue.

I should also add, Edwards, Atta, Gipson are all around for 2022. So if Quinn does not step up this year then he is probably a June 1 cut next year which frees up another 13 million. So if 2 of those guys are solid this year then Quinn is probably gone.
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Arob currently accounts for 0 cap hit in 2022, so your wrong on this. Even a 10 mil cap hit is significant when the Bears only have 36 mil total. And your making asinine assumptions about 5-7 rnd picks becoming starters.

Nope you aren't getting it. First Warner's cap hits the next two years are 3.6 million and 8.6 million. Quan is currently at 9.7 million for 2022. So any deal he signs will have low cap hits likely for 2022 and 2023. So it is unlikely his cap hit exceeds what it currently is projected at for 2022 so any new contract is salary cap neutral for 2022 at this point.

2nd, I never said ARob had a cap hit next year. I said we can resign him next year with the 36 million we have. His first year cap hit will be something like 15m so that leaves us with 21 million to now sign 8 players. Now let's follow Pace's MO and say he doesn't want to go into the draft with a hole. So he resigns Daniels or gets a FA OL with a first year cap hit of 10 million. That leaves 11 million and we need 7 players. Let's say he also wants to fill the 2nd safety spot. He can get a Tashaun Gipson type at around 3 million. That leaves 8 million and 6 spots.

3rd, I never claimed the 5-7 picks need to be starters. That is something you made up. The point is we rarely cut draft picks so that is 5 roster spots for about 3 million so that leaves 1 roster spot and 5 million to spend. In short, we can easily make it work.

Finally as I said if Atta, Gipson or Edwards emerge then Quin is a June 1st cut next year which creates 13 million in cap space for 2022. So we will need 1 or 2 roster spots and will have 5 to 18 million to spend on it depending on what we do with Quinn.

In conclusion, once again you are wrong. I am a Bears fan whose job it is to analyze numbers. I have already looked at our cap for the next 3 years. You are a Lions fans just pissing in the wind on a Bears board because your team sucks. You have not looked at the numbers which is obvious given the dumb shit you said about Quan's contract.
 
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