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Don't think the choices other people make justify the ones you make.

I make the choices I make for what is right for me and my family.

When you have 3 kids in hockey (LOTS of gear), a dog, toys to tow and family that lives 250 miles away (read: road trips), a large SUV is the ONLY car, outside of a station wagon. A vehicle with a 3rd row seat and ample storage is an absolute must for us.

Even in a family sized sports sedan that I drive as a daily, the 3 kids in the back are VERY tight (with one in a booster) and all the shit (including hockey bags) simply will not fit into a trunk.
 

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I have to chime in on the OP.... I am annoyed by this ****** who takes the same train as me and lives over by me..... drives this loud souped up Mazda with a stick shift.... he is a slightly overweight glasses-wearing white dude who thinks he is in a fucking Nascar race every day, dude drives like an asshole and winds up like 1 or 2 cars ahead of me.... we live like 30 seconds from one another and I wanna murder him.

OH MY CAR MAKE LOUD BOOM BOOM NOISE AND I DRIVE FAST!!!!!!

Stfu you dum ****, no one cares.
 

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There are pretty critical reasons to care about what people drive. Would you care if someone pumped more carbon monoxide than absolutely necessary into you living room?

Talk to a LA native and ask them if they think it is important to reduce auto emissions.

Who gets to define 'absolutely necessary'?

Is your iPhone absolutely necessary?

Are the super sized fries you ordered last week 'absolutely necessary'?

How do you propose to determine, and more importantly, regulate what is 'absolutely necessary'? Do you want big government telling you what you can drive? They already do so with emissions and safety standards and car pool lanes. Do you know what them saying 'well, you are driving your big SUV, but you don't have kids in it now because it's 10am and the kids are at school, so that's illegal. You need to sell it and buy a Honda Fit that your family can't fit into at 4pm'?

What about all of the people driving older, poorly maintained shitboxes? Should the government actively get those cars off the road and force people to buy new ones? That Cash for Clunkers thing worked out really well!
 

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I agree with botfly here. That's why I gave up buying touring cars and SUVs for super fuel efficient vehicles. That doesn't mean you lose all of your fun and safety though. Heck, I love how many good cars have been made light and safe in the past that can benefit from an eco powertrain transplant. Much more power than the original, and yet, very light and durable. 50mpg when driving economically and still faster than a lot of unmodified muscle cars of yesteryear and not even have a hybrid.


Name the 'super fuel efficient' vehicles.

Case in point, my 'fun' car is a 2008 Lotus Elise. It carries a factory supercharger and is regarded as one of the best handling sports cars ever made. While it's not uber practical as a daily driver, I put approximately 10K miles on it a year (and that includes it being in winter storage from Nov-April). It makes a simple drive to walgreens a complete joy. Can go from grocery story to track and back.

It will do 0-60 in @ 4.6 seconds and stick to corners like very few other cars ever made.

With proper driving (not crazy shifting accelerating) and not even hypermiling, it will do 30-32MPG. That's what can happen in a 1,950 pound car.

By all accounts, that is 'super fuel efficient'. Even if I split my time driving that and my daily (22mpg), I'm still in the net 28mpg rang, which is pretty damn good.

BTW, most cars on the road today are faster than unmodified muscle cars of yesteryear. Hell, a Toyota Camry of today is faster than a Ferrari 308GTSi of the early 80s. That's the beauty of the advancement of technology.
 

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Yeah. And even if folks are doubtful about emissions, what about the price the US pays to maintain foreign oil supply lines?

We pay for our access to cheap oil with blood and war. That's the literal truth.

Want to support our troops? Show some respect for oil.

Define 'respect'.

I'm assuming you've boycotted plastic?

Assuming you ride a bicycle and don't drive a car?

If you are going to be in, why not be all in?
 

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I have to chime in on the OP.... I am annoyed by this ****** who takes the same train as me and lives over by me..... drives this loud souped up Mazda with a stick shift.... he is a slightly overweight glasses-wearing white dude who thinks he is in a fucking Nascar race every day, dude drives like an asshole and winds up like 1 or 2 cars ahead of me.... we live like 30 seconds from one another and I wanna murder him.

OH MY CAR MAKE LOUD BOOM BOOM NOISE AND I DRIVE FAST!!!!!!

Stfu you dum ****, no one cares.

Why does it matter that he's a white dude?

And if he thinks he's a NASCAR driver, than being a white dude would be par for the course.

He shouldn't drive like an asshole.

It is good that he drives a manual transmission. They are better on gas mileage.
 

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Why does it matter that he's a white dude?

And if he thinks he's a NASCAR driver, than being a white dude would be par for the course.

He shouldn't drive like an asshole.

It is good that he drives a manual transmission. They are better on gas mileage.

I was describing him so you have a picture of him in your mind.... hes not fucking James Bond.

Hes an asshole who drives like an asshole in a car that brings attention to himself via its noise pollution.
 

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I was describing him so you have a picture of him in your mind.... hes not fucking James Bond.

Hes an asshole who drives like an asshole in a car that brings attention to himself via its noise pollution.

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Name the 'super fuel efficient' vehicles.

Case in point, my 'fun' car is a 2008 Lotus Elise. It carries a factory supercharger and is regarded as one of the best handling sports cars ever made. While it's not uber practical as a daily driver, I put approximately 10K miles on it a year (and that includes it being in winter storage from Nov-April). It makes a simple drive to walgreens a complete joy. Can go from grocery story to track and back.

It will do 0-60 in @ 4.6 seconds and stick to corners like very few other cars ever made.

With proper driving (not crazy shifting accelerating) and not even hypermiling, it will do 30-32MPG. That's what can happen in a 1,950 pound car.

By all accounts, that is 'super fuel efficient'. Even if I split my time driving that and my daily (22mpg), I'm still in the net 28mpg rang, which is pretty damn good.

BTW, most cars on the road today are faster than unmodified muscle cars of yesteryear. Hell, a Toyota Camry of today is faster than a Ferrari 308GTSi of the early 80s. That's the beauty of the advancement of technology.

Technology, meet shitty old school Nova.:)

1,200 HP

[video=youtube;96Hv_jRQMv8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Hv_jRQMv8[/video]

Problem is, they handle like shit. This is something I haven't discussed yet with my mechanic, how much $$ to modify the suspension on a 70' Cutlass so it can adequately transfer extra HP.
 

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Who gets to define 'absolutely necessary'?

Is your iPhone absolutely necessary?

Are the super sized fries you ordered last week 'absolutely necessary'?

How do you propose to determine, and more importantly, regulate what is 'absolutely necessary'? Do you want big government telling you what you can drive? They already do so with emissions and safety standards and car pool lanes. Do you know what them saying 'well, you are driving your big SUV, but you don't have kids in it now because it's 10am and the kids are at school, so that's illegal. You need to sell it and buy a Honda Fit that your family can't fit into at 4pm'?

What about all of the people driving older, poorly maintained shitboxes? Should the government actively get those cars off the road and force people to buy new ones? That Cash for Clunkers thing worked out really well!

Air to breath? Does that qualify? How about a livable biosphere?
 

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Define 'respect'.

I'm assuming you've boycotted plastic?

Assuming you ride a bicycle and don't drive a car?

If you are going to be in, why not be all in?

Yes, I commute on bike, tho I would drive if I had to.

I have a reusable aluminum water bottles.

I avoid products with excess packaging, try to buy bulk and have pre-tared mason jars.

I use cloth shopping bags.

But whatever. The point is not that you can eliminate your impact or completely stop using petroleum products. The point is that you think about how you negotiate your impact and that reducing it is something you value and take into consideration when making decisions. That you should think long and hard when consuming petroleum for basically luxury or convenience purposes.
 

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We do too (although my wife has to drive). Omg, am I a hippie?
 

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look no further than botfly.

I will say, we don't reuse aluminum water bottles because aluminum contributes to amyloid-tau deposits on the brain and possibly alzheimer's, so shame on you, bot. I also drink beer out of aluminum cans on weekends, so, nice knowing you all
 

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I cut a whole in the top of my shed, when I drink beer from aluminum cans I smash them bitches on my forehead and put them in my backyard piggybank.

I'm saving up to come to Training Camp, cheers.
 

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look no further than botfly.

I will say, we don't reuse aluminum water bottles because aluminum contributes to amyloid-tau deposits on the brain and possibly alzheimer's, so shame on you, bot. I also drink beer out of aluminum cans on weekends, so, nice knowing you all

Maybe they are titanium or some shit. I have one of those cleen canteen things. ima look.
 

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