Are the Bears the worst team in the NFL?

[bamainatlanta]

Yawn.

post #46

Nc0gnet0

They are a Robert Quinn injury away from being a bottom 3 D. Expecting two 2nd round rookies to step right in and instantly solidify the secondary is expecting way to much. Getsy is a product of having worked behind one of the best QB's in the league. Much like Nagy was a product of having worked behind Andy Reed. You all know how well that worked out, with Nagy the "offensive genius".

Fields very well could show flash's of brilliance, but this offense will not be able to sustain time chewing drives, and the D will be on the field a lot. That alone will keep them in the bottom tier.

Notice no mention of the Lions?

post #47

Chicagosports89​

Are lions going to be a top 15 D now that they drafted Ryan Kerrigan #2 overall?


Now, kindly go fuck yourself.

I think it's sad that I'm trolling you into actually looking this up and then posting it.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I think it's sad that I'm trolling you into actually looking this up and then posting it.

trolling is a bannable offense.

 

[Omeletpants]

It's so sad for this franchise that the best argument is whether the Bears are the worst of second worst franchise in the NFL

What not up for dispute is that the Bears fans are the worst

 

[bamainatlanta]

trolling is a bannable offense.

Well played

 

[Omeletpants]

Bears have also been sinking like the Titanic since 2006. The joke of the nfl

 

[onebud34]

LMAO, the Giants as an "average" offense.

They must be betting that Daboll won't crash and burn...which he most likely will.

Because their offensive roster might be as bad or worse than the Bears

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Dear lord CCS sucks in May.

 

[Midway Fields]

Meh, you can't base this year's schedule on last years results. SOS before the season even starts is pretty ridiculous.

I agree generally but the opposing QBs the Bears face this year are incredibly weak overall.

 

[Midway Fields]

trolling is a bannable offense.

(l)

 

[JoJoBoxer]

You seem to be a little confused as to what the burden of proof should be.

At best debates on the forum should only be held to the same standards as found in a civil case.

If I buy a lottery ticket today, sure I can be a millionaire tomorrow.

Pretty good chance that isn't going to happen though, and you can't prove otherwise (until tomorrow of course).

So I guess every one that buys a lottery ticket should be considered a millionaire?

Wow, that is a bad take.

Using your own lottery idea ...

The 2021 secondary players who were horrible = useless Lotto tickets from last year.

The 2022 secondary draft picks (3 of them) = at worst, as valuable as the losing lotto tickets from last year.

Using past history of 2nd round draft picks, chances are that at least one of the 2nd round picks is going to not be a draft bust. This clearly shows that, at least, the 2 2nd round picks have a much higher value than a lotto ticket which is, I'm guessing, a 1 in a billion chance of success.

The two free agent secondary players who were brought in have shown that they are valuable on their past teams, though one is injury prone. One is a TE killer and the injury prone player is even better. At worst, they are winning scratcher tickets with some value.

Do you understand how the secondary can be seen as better than it was in 2021, even with unproven 2nd round draft picks?

The chances of 1 of 2 second round draft picks being successful is higher than 50% while a lotto ticket for next weekend (2022 UDFA secondary player) is slightly better than 0% of success and a losing lotto ticket from last year (2021 Bears secondary players who were let go) is exactly 0% of success.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

trolling is a bannable offense.

If that were the case, CCS would be completely empty.

 

[nc0gnet0]

If that were the case, CCS would be completely empty.

It was meant as a joke, the person I replied to understood it just fine.

 

[pinkfloydster]

Poles seems to like Borom and Jenkins at T but got a couple of vets (Davenport and Coleman) as insurance and drafted Braxton Jones who has a lot of upside. Not to mention a bunch of UDFAs. Obviously there are a lot of variables at play but Poles addressed OL with a number of viable options.

IMO it's not a bad plan given the Bears aren't expected to compete this year. The thing people are getting hung up on is that we didn't sign a big name there like Fisher. I don't think an aging lineman with serious injury history and bad play last year would answer OL needs any better than what Poles did.

Yea, I agree. I don't think Poles really had a choice. He played his best hand with the cards he was dealt.

Braxton Jones has upside...but the senior bowl video showed him susceptible to bull rush. Borom has video showing him susceptible to arm sweeps. They all have flaws, otherwise, the Bears wouldn't have them on the roster at their draft position.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

It was meant as a joke, the person I replied to understood it just fine.

I also meant my reply as a joke, but the person I replied to did not understand it just fine.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Dear lord CCS sucks in May.

But you love it like the battered spouse you are! Just can't leave can you? We are all in this together baba

 

[JoJoBoxer]

I have been.

For some reason, I can only bear watching soccer during the World Cup.

There are too many championships in soccer. It seems that most teams have at least one championship each year be it city, state, region, country, series, the Americas or the Libertadores and then the European championships and finally The Champions Cup.

I am used to the American sports where there is one ultimate goal and everyone else can go fuck themselves until the following year if they do not reach that goal.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

@zack54attack you should close the Bears forum down for 5 days in June. As a test run.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

But you love it like the battered spouse you are! Just can't leave can you? We are all in this together baba

I'm not going anywhere.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

3T, SLB,EDGE

I agree that the 3T is right now a liability. However; Edwards might fit that position well, that 3T who failed the physical might still be signed and Hicks might come back and he would, barring injury, be an interesting matchup nightmare for the offense. No Tommie Harris, but who in the NFL is a Tommie Harris.

Edge is an unknown. Quinn is older and he has a terrible history of good year, bad year, so this may be another bad year for him. Mack was traded away for cap savings though he had become injury prone. There are some young guys who are intriguing but they haven't really done anything in their careers.

SAM linebacker is not a liability. That position is going to have to be filled only 30% of the time and, when it was used a lot more in Lovie's system, it was filled by people like Hunter Hillenmeyer.

If you think that finding someone at a Hunter Hillenmeyer level of play for 30% of the defensive plays is going to be difficult, then SAM linebacker is a liability.

Most of us think that getting a Hunter Hillenmeyer level of play can be had with an UDFA like Jack Sanborn from Wisconsin or any of the other host of linebackers on the team or soon to be cut from other teams.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

I agree that the 3T is right now a liability. However; Edwards might fit that position well, that 3T who failed the physical might still be signed and Hicks might come back and he would, barring injury, be an interesting matchup nightmare for the offense. No Tommie Harris, but who in the NFL is a Tommie Harris.

Edge is an unknown. Quinn is older and he has a terrible history of good year, bad year, so this may be another bad year for him. Mack was traded away for cap savings though he had become injury prone. There are some young guys who are intriguing but they haven't really done anything in their careers.

SAM linebacker is not a liability. That position is going to have to be filled only 30% of the time and, when it was used a lot more in Lovie's system, it was filled by people like Hunter Hillenmeyer.

If you think that finding someone at a Hunter Hillenmeyer level of play for 30% of the defensive plays is going to be difficult, then SAM linebacker is a liability.

Most of us think that getting a Hunter Hillenmeyer level of play can be had with an UDFA like Jack Sanborn from Wisconsin or any of the other host of linebackers on the team or soon to be cut from other teams.

We don't really know what the base defense will look like but am aware of the limited snaps at the strong side, that still doesn't mean it is not a question mark. In Eberfuls's defense it looks it is closer to 20%. So call LB a wash then, that's fair.