Are you guys more worried about....

[TL1961]

I am more worried that Addison Russell suddenly can't throw.

 

[TL1961]

And, BTW, I am no statistician, but I am pretty damned sure that an athletic competition does not become a "random event" simply by being a one game do or die.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Delete.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

And, BTW, I am no statistician, but I am pretty damned sure that an athletic competition does not become a "random event" simply by being a one game do or die.

Depends on context. In a game like football, certainly not despite the fact that the league thrives on parity and the "any given Sunday mentality" but absolutely talent usually wins out. In the one on one basketball comparison I don't think anyone would argue which player between MJ and Pippen were more talented so sample size counts. In baseball it's almost 2 different sports that determine best record and Championships. The WC is almost for sure a random event. This discussion has gotten pretty arcane though and I apologize for that.

 

[DanTown]

And, BTW, I am no statistician, but I am pretty damned sure that an athletic competition does not become a "random event" simply by being a one game do or die.

Of course one event is just a random event. The NCAA tournament is 64 random events. One hand of blackjack is a random event. Flipping a coin is a random event. Playing a sport doesn't change the the fact that a single game, no matter who is playing whom, is only a random event.

A series is more removed from being a random event due to the fact you have to win 3 or 4 times out of 5 or 7 but the sample is still incredibly small and in no way proves "the better team won". The sample size of 162 games over 6 months far better predicts who the "better" baseball team is.

No one is asking for a rule change on how to determine who the "best" team is but what the playoffs ask from you is to be the best team in that moment. How many teams have had a good 20 game stretch?

 

[Ari Bear]

Definetly the bats going cold. The offense has been very inconsistant especially the last couple of months.

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

Definetly the bats going cold. The offense has been very inconsistant especially the last couple of months.

Yep if we lose, that will surely be what does us in. The bats going cold in the NLDS.

 

[Ari Bear]

Yep if we lose, that will surely be what does us in. The bats going cold in the NLDS.

Yeah let's hope they get hot then. They are capable.

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[CSF77]

Yeah let's hope they get hot then. They are capable.

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It will more so be our pitching not controlling the run scored vs anything. The play offs all teams are good. So you have to expect low scoring games in general. 3-5 runs at most any team should get. 1-2 vs a TOR.

That is why I posted some of the top starters with run support. These guys could see trouble in a series due to them enjoying a cushion more that other starters. Jake is #2 between the top 2 AL starters with Price right there.

That is why I do not trust Jake on his day. With his run support he should have 18-20 wins right now. His BB have killed him and he still has 17 wins due to him getting 7 runs per on avg. It gives plenty of room for error.

On the other side Lackey has received the least run support of the 5 and his win total reflects this.

At this point I trust John more than Jake. Jake could push 6 walks and the O is not going to recover from it.

 

[Ari Bear]

It will more so be our pitching not controlling the run scored vs anything. The play offs all teams are good. So you have to expect low scoring games in general. 3-5 runs at most any team should get. 1-2 vs a TOR.

That is why I posted some of the top starters with run support. These guys could see trouble in a series due to them enjoying a cushion more that other starters. Jake is #2 between the top 2 AL starters with Price right there.

That is why I do not trust Jake on his day. With his run support he should have 18-20 wins right now. His BB have killed him and he still has 17 wins due to him getting 7 runs per on avg. It gives plenty of room for error.

On the other side Lackey has received the least run support of the 5 and his win total reflects this.

At this point I trust John more than Jake. Jake could push 6 walks and the O is not going to recover from it.

Yeah but this team struggles to score even a couple of runs at times. Example Hendricks gave up 2era in his last outing and lost. The team even struggles often against medicore starting pitching. For me it's a concern heading into the playoffs.

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[CSF77]

Yeah but this team struggles to score even a couple of runs at times. Example Hendricks gave up 2era in his last outing and lost. The team even struggles often against medicore starting pitching. For me it's a concern heading into the playoffs.

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Like I said. You can't go into a series expecting to see the O lead the way. This team depends on OBA and a big hit. They are not good at manufacturing. So expect low scoring games in general. Most teams will toss out 3 guys the first series. Most have 3 guys that are dependable.

 

[Ari Bear]

Like I said. You can't go into a series expecting to see the O lead the way. This team depends on OBA and a big hit. They are not good at manufacturing. So expect low scoring games in general. Most teams will toss out 3 guys the first series. Most have 3 guys that are dependable.

Don't expect the O to lead the way just like the O to back the pitching. For me to the post season cant get here soon enough.

 

[brett05]

Depends on context. In a game like football, certainly not despite the fact that the league thrives on parity and the "any given Sunday mentality" but absolutely talent usually wins out. In the one on one basketball comparison I don't think anyone would argue which player between MJ and Pippen were more talented so sample size counts. In baseball it's almost 2 different sports that determine best record and Championships. The WC is almost for sure a random event. This discussion has gotten pretty arcane though and I apologize for that.

Even though DT joined late, I am not going to respond and join TC in this apology.

 

[TL1961]

Of course one event is just a random event. The NCAA tournament is 64 random events. One hand of blackjack is a random event. Flipping a coin is a random event. Playing a sport doesn't change the the fact that a single game, no matter who is playing whom, is only a random event.

A series is more removed from being a random event due to the fact you have to win 3 or 4 times out of 5 or 7 but the sample is still incredibly small and in no way proves "the better team won". The sample size of 162 games over 6 months far better predicts who the "better" baseball team is.

No one is asking for a rule change on how to determine who the "best" team is but what the playoffs ask from you is to be the best team in that moment. How many teams have had a good 20 game stretch?

An athletic competition does not have a predetermined outcome.

But it is not a random outcome.