Baker Mayfield 97 yard game winning drive

[MDB111™]

Ensure the Bears' future with what talent in the NFL Draft? There's like two great players at the top of the draft in Anderson Jr. and Jalen Carter. Then there's a massive drop off in talent. The Bears are likely going to trade down to a team that needs a QB and then find themselves without an elite talent to come in and have an immediate impact anywhere else on the roster.

2023 is setting up to be a shit year because the free agency class is garbage and the draft is garbage. But you believe and everyone else believe s Justin Fields will suddenly elevate that talent and have the Bears in the playoffs.

So you're a glass half empty kind of guy?

 

[Kurtosis]

I don’t understand trying to die on a hill regarding a Bears QB being dynamic and promising moving forward. It’s not like we’re talking about Jordan Love.

 

[Anytime23]

Just the slightest bit of context blows up his premise… He’s another guy that made a bad, hot take call on Fields and is willing to die on that hill. So dumb.

Its so fucking obnoxious. The Bears for the first time have a real QB and one of the most exciting players in all of football and some people are wasting energy blaming him for everything on a team that legitimately is as bottomed out as you can find.

So you're a glass half empty kind of guy?

Unless that glass was filled with bacon grease or chocolate milkshakes, then it became a fully empty glass.
Lets check in with Justin Fields who even as a rookie showed he is incapable of leading a team to a late game TD to take the lead.

 

[playthrough2001]

Its so fucking obnoxious. The Bears for the first time have a real QB and one of the most exciting players in all of football and some people are wasting energy blaming him for everything on a team that legitimately is as bottomed out as you can find.


Unless that glass was filled with bacon grease or chocolate milkshakes, then it became a fully empty glass.
Lets check in with Justin Fields who even as a rookie showed he is incapable of leading a team to a late game TD to take the lead.

I don’t understand why some fans don’t embrace him and enjoy the process. He has a chance to be one of the best dual threat weapons in the NFL. It’s incredibly exciting and lucky the Bears even have this guy. I thought after whiffing on Mahomes, it was never going to happen for the Bears or this fan base.

I guess some people enjoy being negative and miserable.

 

[Anytime23]

I don’t understand why some fans don’t embrace him and enjoy the process. He has a chance to be one of the best dual threat weapons in the NFL. It’s incredibly exciting and lucky the Bears even have this guy. I thought after whiffing on Mahomes, it was never going to happen for the Bears or this fan base.

I guess some people enjoy being negative and miserable.

Its funny, i remember a handful of posters claiming i was always negative and miserable about everything and as it turns out im only negative about things that are miserable.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Hey, we agree on something. Passing stats are not more valuable than points. Progress! Now I will do you the same courtesy and answer your questions.



1. Is Claypool better than Ja'Marr Chase? No. Never have claimed he would be.

2. Will Claypool ever boost Fields passing production to the levels we are seeing from Burrow? No. They're two polar opposite style of quarterbacks. I previously stated in this very thread that I thought Claypool was a #3 receiver and that the 2nd round pick was a drastic overpay.

3. Do I think the Bears will be competing for a Super Bowl next year? No. I've been consistent on saying I want a top 5 pick in 2022. A top 5 to 10 pick in 2023. A top 15-20 pick in 2024 and a legitimate playoff contender in 2025.

This team has holes all over the place. One receiver is not going to make the difference in this team being immediate Super Bowl contenders when the Bears could be replacing as many as 9 starters on defense in addition to a minimum of 3 new offensive linemen, a true #1 receiver, a true #2 receiver and likely replacing a starting RB as I doubt Montgomery gets a new deal (despite my appreciation of him).

4. Where will the Bears be in 2023 if they go with Claypool and Johnson? Hopefully picking in the top 10 as previously stated.

5. Will Fields boost Claypool and Johnston into a playoff team? I absolutely believe Fields can lead this team to the playoffs. Whether Claypool or Johnston is on the team is irrelevant in that belief.

6. What if the Bears go defense 1st and take WR in 2nd round, will they be a playoff team next year? No. Again, see entire answer 3.

7. I have never claimed Justin Fields would become a top 5 passer. Do I think it's a possibility? Sure, it can happen. Do I think it's likely though? No. He's a dual threat QB. With a better supporting cast, it should open up the passing game more.

As an example - if the Bears go 4 WR, 1 RB set - the defense has to choose between sticking with 2 high safeties but not being able to double team anybody or they'd have to stick to a single high safety look while doubling the #1 receiver. If they want to stick to 2 high safeties while still doubling the #1 receiver, they sacrifice an additional lineman up front which gives Fields and better receivers more time to win their individual matchups. Fields running ability requires a spy on every single play which forces defenses into picking their poison. Rush fewer players but risk longer pocket times or 1 single high safety against a QB who routinely makes great deep passes. If you decide not to spy on a given play and the Bears are passing, he runs for a first down or more.

Oh I see so what you're saying is Justin Fields is not the answer. Because if the Bears have to do all that and will finally be a playoff contender by the last year of his rookie contract then Fields is a bust at the QB position. For some odd reason you're selling yourself as a believer in Justin Fields.

Carry on then.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

I don’t understand why some fans don’t embrace him and enjoy the process. He has a chance to be one of the best dual threat weapons in the NFL. It’s incredibly exciting and lucky the Bears even have this guy. I thought after whiffing on Mahomes, it was never going to happen for the Bears or this fan base.

I guess some people enjoy being negative and miserable.

Fields isn't Mahomes bro. He will never be Mahomes. The Bears could maximize his talents as a runner and a thrower and that will never equate to anything near what Mahomes is. Fields could put 1,200 as a runner this year and the next 5 years and he's STILL not going to be as good as Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is averaging 37 TDs a season. Fields isn't going to throw for and run for 37 TDs combined at any point in his career.

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Oh I see so what you're saying is Justin Fields is not the answer. Because if the Bears have to do all that and will finally be a playoff contender by the last year of his rookie contract then Fields is a bust at the QB position. For some odd reason you're selling yourself as a believer in Justin Fields.

Carry on then.

They wasted year 1 on Nagy/Pace. They wasted year 2 on gutting the roster to clean up the cap mess the previous GM created.

Do you agree or disagree?

 

[Bronze65]

Are you Black Rainbow’s alt?

 

[playthrough2001]

Fields isn't Mahomes bro. He will never be Mahomes. The Bears could maximize his talents as a runner and a thrower and that will never equate to anything near what Mahomes is. Fields could put 1,200 as a runner this year and the next 5 years and he's STILL not going to be as good as Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is averaging 37 TDs a season. Fields isn't going to throw for and run for 37 TDs combined at any point in his career.

Interesting, I missed the part where I stated Fields is Mahomes. I said Fields has the chance to be one of the best dual threat weapons in the NFL. Disputing that is simply dumb.

Also, I was one of the few here that advocated for Mahomes prior to the 2017 draft. I don’t need you to tell me what Mahomes has become.

Go pump out some more lousy content. The guys that own this site are obviously hurting for contributors, considering they’re providing you a voice.

 

[MDB111™]

Fields isn't Mahomes bro. He will never be Mahomes. The Bears could maximize his talents as a runner and a thrower and that will never equate to anything near what Mahomes is. Fields could put 1,200 as a runner this year and the next 5 years and he's STILL not going to be as good as Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is averaging 37 TDs a season. Fields isn't going to throw for and run for 37 TDs combined at any point in his career.

How do you know that?

 

[bamainatlanta]

@DanielCCSBears explain yourself

@Black Rainbow as well. What’s up with your boy Josh McD?

 

[bamainatlanta]

How do you know that?

Bookmark his shitty post

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

When Daniel talks about talent, and how he views it, make sure to ask him about Will Sutton.

 

[Nuremberg Bear]

When Daniel talks about talent, and how he views it, make sure to ask him about Will Sutton.

@DanielCCSBears ?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

@DanielCCSBears ?

He has me on ignore. You'll have to ask him.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

And lest we forget:

Vontaze Burfict

 

[DanielCCSBears]

They wasted year 1 on Nagy/Pace. They wasted year 2 on gutting the roster to clean up the cap mess the previous GM created.

Do you agree or disagree?

Yes they did, but if it's going to take THAT long to surround him with enough talent for him to take the Bears to the playoffs then he's not the QB. You're talking about having a nearly ideal roster of talent around him to make the playoffs in another three seasons. That's pretty damn bad. It's a big ask to have a GM hit on all of those draft picks to surround him with enough talent to get to the playoffs. The Bengals won one game, drafted Burrow Higgins and Chase and with the rest of the scrubs he carried them to the Super Bowl in year two. You're talking about a four year rebuild to get to respectability that's a reflection of Fields whether you want to believe it or not.

There are great QBs out there that can carry a pile of scrubs to the playoffs every year. I know Bears fans have only seen really bad QBs year over year over year. But GREAT QBs can put a team on their back and get to 10 wins. And then are the just-a-guy type of QBs who need an ideal roster to get to the playoffs.

You think Christian Watson is getting to seven TD receptions this year with Jimmy G Baker Mayfield Kirk Cousins etc as the QB in Green Bay?

 

[mecha]

Fields isn't Mahomes bro. He will never be Mahomes. The Bears could maximize his talents as a runner and a thrower and that will never equate to anything near what Mahomes is. Fields could put 1,200 as a runner this year and the next 5 years and he's STILL not going to be as good as Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is averaging 37 TDs a season. Fields isn't going to throw for and run for 37 TDs combined at any point in his career.

you should go be a Chiefs fan

people that believe the quarterback is the sole difference maker in winning a Super Bowl baffle me. Mahomes with all his purported GOAT might about 2 years ago had backup offensive linemen playing and he got murdered by a superior defense. you and your batshit theories can eat a dick.

 

[MDB111™]

Your timeline is all fucked up. The Bengals won two games. Then drafted Burrow and Higgins. So then they won 4 games in their rookie years. Then Jamarr Chase and company came.
Bengals already had Mixon and vowed to protect Burrows and get him weapons after year 1


After year one for Fields, he got Pringle, Harry and St Brown!

If Poles is in on Fields, this is the offseason for him to show it.


Until then,your argument is stupid. Also,Burrows and Fields are not even comparable as players.


You are reaching with your piss poor football thoughts.